From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #97 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Wednesday, 16 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 097 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Lichtenberg Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:53:02 -0700 Subject: Re: just to you RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > > i just asking you if he actually preached or introdsuced songs: i wanted a > clearafacation, and i do think this is geeting off tract, also I am getting > like 40 e-mails a day from the list, and i'm trying not to clog the Funk > List. It seems like your the only one on the lsit that seem Mark perach from > the stage, every else said he was low key, saying after playing funk songs > thats where i was at, now hear i am now then paly some Christian songs. Or > hears some God Rock, or hears a song about the love from above. My whole > point of this is someone said they (DON I guess) made Mark signe a contract > agreeing not to perach from the stage. I felt that was crazy, but many people > said it was true. If it were me, I would give my word not to preach, and if > that was not enough, I would not fhave reformed GFR; thats just the way I am, > my word is my bound. You came in in the middle of a convo I was having with > others. I'm writting this back to you on the list SO EVERYONE CAN SEE MY > VOMIT TO YOU. I guess no one can ask you to clarify a point, or be a little > sarcastic with out you losin your mind. My pleasure. > > Rick ; ) Dear Rick, I guess since I'm the only one on the list that has seen Mark preach, I must be mistaken. From now on, Mark has never preached from the stage. I thought your note was more than "a little sarcastic". Your word seems to be unassailable to you, but mine isn't good enough. That's a curious double standard. Many on the list have emailed me privately, but you are the only one to ask me to clarify a point by peppering the note with condescending bologna. I also get as many emails as you do. If you can't keep up, there are options. I'm going to try to get back on track by concentrating on my top 20 albums of all time selections. Thanks, Rick. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: mustang Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:57:47 -0400 Subject: New Grand Funk Web Site - www.grandfunk.com Being a long time fan of Grand Funk, I was glad to see that you've started a web site. Could someone please take a look at all of the misspellings and correct them. ------------------------------ From: "Michael Dolfi" Date: Sat, 12 Jul 97 01:10:57 UT Subject: RE: Questions The different stylings, the growth of the members, the swelling of thier playing and writing abilities, I think that these are two of the heaviest efforts that Mr. Farners' poetry delt with in times of war and and I think, self reconning. ( This is only my opinion and i'm sticking to it!) Hey but don't foget that 99% of GFRs' writings are deeply from the heart, that's why we love them so much. - ---------- From: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com on behalf of einar@rfci.net Sent: Thursday, July 10, 1997 12:17 PM To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Re: Questions GEODOG8809@aol.com wrote: > > Brothers and Sisters: > > Questions of interest to me: > > 1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don Brewer was > quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best effort." Any > thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. Well, I agree with Don on this one. And even though this will make me even more unpopular, I would add 'Survival' to the list. Both of these LP's are to mellow for Funkola. ------------------------------ From: HELLONEWMAN@webtv.net Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:04:05 -0400 Subject: GFR WEB I LIKE THE NEW WEB SITE! IT HAS NEW SHHOWS ADDED FOR AUGUST DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THET HAVE ANY SHOWS LINED UP IN NJ>@THE ARTS CTR/JONES BEACH OR ATLANTIC CUTY @ TAJ MAHAL I KNOW FISHOF DOES HIS 70S REVIVAL SHOWS THERE SEEN ZZ TOPP THERE LAST WEEK STEVE/NJ ANY PPV INFO ON SEPT IN BOSNIA??? ------------------------------ From: Randy Stowe Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:30:07 -0500 Subject: GFR ROCKS LITTLE ROCK! Hi Everybody, Well I just got home from the Grand Funk concert here in Little Rock. It was everything you would expect ... OUTSTANDING! It was a first class concert. These guys haven't lost a thing over the years. You know, even if I had gone to the concert by myself, I would have had a great time, but being able to share the night with others who appreciate a good solid power trio makes it so much more enjoyable. Tonight I was blessed by group of people from this list who made this a night I will never forget. There was Joe (In2theSon) from Texarkana, Texas. You'd never know that we had just met. Seemed like I knew him for years. Larry (LMcdan1313) was there too. He's as nice a guy as you'll ever meet. Bob (JFerr54280) brought his wife and teenaged kids up from Shreveport (Yo Bob, yer daughter's a knock out!). Craig (GEODOG8809)and his wife Arla came in from Las Vegas. Arla was so wound up, she was bouncing like she had springs on her feet. My very dear friends, Robert and Garrett Gray were there too. I've known Rob since highschool. We've been through heaven and hell together, he's much more like a brother to me than a friend. His wife Garrett is a true treasure. My wife Kim was wonderful, but then again, she always is. The point I'm trying to make here, is that Grand Funk fans, epecially the ones on this list, are truly fine people of outstanding character. I want to thank everybody who came for making this a night to remember. I feel I've made some very good friends tonight. I will always be grateful (The Grateful Funk? Hmmmmm) Now, back to the concert. As I stated above, it was excellent. I've come to expect alot from this band, and they always deliver. The set list was pretty much the same as Vegas. For those of you that missed that post, here it is: Are You Ready; Rock-N-Roll Soul; Footstompin' Music; Time Machine; Medley of Paranoid, Sins A Good Man's Brother, and Mr. Limosine Driver; Heartbreaker; Aimless Lady; T.N.U.C.; Inside Looking Out; Shinin' On; Locomotion; We're An American Band. The encores were: Mean Mistreater; Some Kind Of Wonderful; Bad Time; Closer To Home; and Gimme Shelter. We were all thrilled to get backstage passes. We went on back after Gimme Shelter, but unfortunately, the band split immediately for the airport, so we didn't get to say "Hello" and pay our respects. It was neat, walking around backstage. Joe got to get his picture taken holding Mark's guitar before they ran us off. In conclusion, it was a great night. Thanks again to the Roadkill crew for making this evening so enjoyable. You guys are the greatest. I would also like to thank Bill Parrette, our list owner. Bill, without you, this would have just been another concert. Thank Bro'. Cordially, Randy Stowe ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 21:29:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Questions On Sat, 12 Jul 97 01:10:57 UT "Michael Dolfi" writes: >The different stylings, the growth of the members, the swelling of >thier >playing and writing abilities, I think that these are two of the >heaviest >efforts that Mr. Farners' poetry delt with in times of war and and I >think, >self reconning. ( This is only my opinion and i'm sticking to it!) Hey >but >don't foget that 99% of GFRs' writings are deeply from the heart, >that's why >we love them so much. > >---------- >From: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com on behalf of >einar@rfci.net >Sent: Thursday, July 10, 1997 12:17 PM >To: grand-funk@roadkill.com >Subject: Re: Questions > >GEODOG8809@aol.com wrote: >> >> Brothers and Sisters: >> >> Questions of interest to me: >> >> 1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don >Brewer was >> quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best effort." >Any >> thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. > >Well, I agree with Don on this one. And even though this will make me >even more unpopular, I would add 'Survival' to the list. Both of these >LP's are to mellow for Funkola. > > > Well now, I like the Phoenix album and dislike the Survival album. To me Survival sounded like they were just trying to "grind out another album". Phoenix showed a little more thought. Other opinions? Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: George Mizzell Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:46:04 -0500 Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe engconcepts@earthlink.net ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:34:39 -0400 Subject: Terry Knight I'm no fan of TK but I wanted to make a comment about some of the things being said about the early days. GFR was never really an underground band. They were very much in the media, and acknowledged as the top selling band in the world by Billboard. But in those days, NO hard rock band got radio play. All, or at least most, radio was AM top 40, and you never heard any real band on the radio. That's one reason why bands today sell so many more albums, is because of all the classic rock, alternative rock stations, MTV, VH1, etc. Because of all that, there is much more of a fan base to sell to than there was then. So GFR's 14 million album sales sounds weak by comparison to, say, Pearl Jam, but in those days, that was HUGE! I think if GFR had come along at a later time, like say, AC/DC or U2, they would also have sales of around 100 million. Also, concerning availability of cd's: I bought an american release of Live Album 3 years ago, and I have seen it numerous times at Best Buy since then, along with Shinin' On, WAAB, red album, CTH, and EPluribus.You can even get EPluribus from Columbia CD Club! ------------------------------ From: Shane Hall Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:43:10 -0700 Subject: Texas Fans I just wanted to see how many Texas-based fans there are out there in Funkland. I'm in Brownwood in central Texas. Sooner or later the boys will have to play in Dallas-Ft. Worth, Houston or San Antonio (Dallas-Ft Worth is closest for me). I saw Mark at the Prohibition Room in Dallas in '88 (the show was billed as Mark Farner's tribute to Grand Funk Railroad). Also saw him at the city park in Stephenville the same year. He was playing to prerecorded music and only sang his Christian songs and yes, he did sermon a little between songs. shane ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: just to you Jim i receive the e-mail from the address listed below, the other Jim is lichtj@mhv.net (James Lichtenberg) I asked the other jim how Mark preched, and I never got a answere-just that he did. So I became sarcastic, wanted specifics. And Jim (whoever) said my scarcastic e-mail was vomit. So I was just responding to him how this whole thing got started. He said it sould be on the list; so I put it on the list; it was not addressed to you; but to the list. My whole point of this innane conversation is that someone said they (DON I guess) made Mark signe a contract agreeing not to perach from the stage. I felt that was crazy, but many people said it was true. If it were me, I would give my word not to preach, and if that was not enough, I would not have reformed GFR; thats just the way I am, My word is my bond, if thats not good enough, then I would say funk off. Lucky Mark is not a hot tempered Italian like I am, or there would not be a reunion. This all started when I asked if anyone on the list if they ever heard him preach, excluding churches and christian festables. I tried to get more details but failed. So I give up on the subject and I feel sorry for Mark, not being taken at his word. Anyway; I'm tired of the whole conversation; and i'm tired of the list, just too many postings; And i'm really tired of the grammer and spelling police on her-who gives a flying funk; must be (annel) english teachers, I'm unsuscribing as soon as I finish this letter, all my friends drop me an e-mail from time to time. I'll still e-mail the list with any GFR bootleg and Video information I get. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: "Michael Dolfi" Date: Sat, 12 Jul 97 00:49:09 UT Subject: RE: re-TNUC But !, if you listen to the words, you might just figure out that the reciepient of such writings, may just be!( this opinion is only hearsay and does not reflect that of many people) - ---------- From: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com on behalf of The Halls Sent: Thursday, July 10, 1997 1:40 AM To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: re-TNUC Better late than never!! TNUC is not a pornographic reference . Only the Beatles would do such a stupid thing. T.N.U.C. is an acronymn for Take No Unnecessary Chances. P.S. Does anyone have any info on how far southeast GFR will tour? ------------------------------ From: "Michael Dolfi" Date: Sat, 12 Jul 97 00:51:29 UT Subject: RE: Gimme Shelter Two very different versions, both DEMAND respect, - ---------- From: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com on behalf of Mike Butler Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 11:03 PM To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Gimme Shelter Just about every day you hear "Gimme Shelter" on the local classic rock station - everyday when I hear the intro, I think it's going to be Grand Funk's version and it never is . . . Grand Funk's version totally blows the Stones away, always has and always will. I feel the same way about "Feelin Alright". - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: fam11@juno.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 07:55:25 -0400 Subject: T-shirt I wrote before to the wrong address. Has anybody sent money to Mike Butler for a T-shirt? I sent money and asked to be e-mailed when the money got there but have not heard a word. There is a import of "Survival" at Spy Records here in Lexington, KY. for $26. Should I buy it or wait for a re-release. Tony ------------------------------ From: Nancy Barravecchio Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:54:07 -0400 Subject: unscribing!? >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:55:34 >To: RCinSinCty@aol.com >From: Nancy Barravecchio >Subject: unscribing!? > >Anyway; I'm tired of the whole conversation; and i'm tired of the list, just >too many postings; And i'm really tired of the grammer and spelling police on >her-who gives a flying funk; must be (annel) english teachers, I'm >unsuscribing as soon as I finish this letter, all my friends drop me an >e-mail from time to time. I'll still e-mail the list with any GFR bootleg and >Video information I get. > > > Rick ; ) > > Rick please don't unscribe, I find your input and your writting informative, challenging, funny, and when needed awakening......something that the list needs. Don't let the heat get you to walk away from the kitchen. Especially over something no one has proof on. I do agree that this subject is getting to the point of overkill...but it will pass. If everyone would take a step back and realize that for whatever agreements were made between the three of them, the boys got back together. And that is what all of us wanted right....So why the arguing over it. > > I am sure that all of us on roadkill have had the life experience's that will teach us that even the closest of friends have differences and when making business ventures together compromises have to be made. So "if" Mark did preach when he was on the road by himself and "if" he was asked or signed an agreement not to on the road with GFR who cares that is for Mark Don and Mel to work out not for us to bicker over. And it is especially not a reason to leave the list! Just when things are coming around to all of roadkill members favor. It seems like without GFR we would never have gotten to meet each other personally or over the cyberlines, and with them getting back together, our voices have been heard by them up close and personally. How often do you think that happens? > >Rick shut down your mail for a day and think about it, but please think twice before you leave the list. Your opinion matters just as much as all of ours. And whether sometimes other members agree with you or they don't that just makes it more involving. Its like a second family with arguments and all. But just like every family the fights are worth it because when the good times come they wash away all the bad feelings and put a smile on your face when you lay your head down at the end of the day......Please stay on.... > In Love and Light, Nancy B. ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:57:29 -0700 Subject: Re: T-shirt fam11@juno.com wrote: > > I wrote before to the wrong address. > Has anybody sent money to Mike Butler for a T-shirt? I sent > money and asked to be e-mailed when the money got there but have not > heard a word. Dear Tony, I have ordered shirts from Mike Butler and a receptive email came quickly and the shirts came soon after. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:04:07 -0400 Subject: Re: T-shirt I have bought several shirts from Mike with no problem. Stan At 07:55 7/16/97 -0400, you wrote: >I wrote before to the wrong address. > Has anybody sent money to Mike Butler for a T-shirt? I sent >money and asked to be e-mailed when the money got there but have not >heard a word. > >There is a import of "Survival" at Spy Records here in Lexington, KY. for >$26. Should I buy it or wait for a re-release. > > Tony > > Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:15:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Hey Sarge DaveFest57@aol.com wrote: > > < Am I the only GFR fan in Indiana? > > Not by any means. I'm in Clarksville, which is actually an Indiana suburb of > Louisville, Ky. and, ironically, quite a stone's throw from South Bend, but > after enough stones are thrown there's going to be one, long, straight bypass > from the southern border of the state to the northern border. With this new > road, GFR can do an Indiana tour, gigging at each major city in or near the > middle of the state, from South Bend to Clarksville, and everywhere in > between. sounds like a good idea, no? > > Dave > - who thinks Bill P has some pretty funny signoff lines. Either a long bypass or we could nuke KoKoMo........ ------------------------------ From: Bugsy41157@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR WEB In a message dated 97-07-15 22:04:52 EDT, you write: >I LIKE THE NEW WEB SITE! IT HAS NEW SHHOWS ADDED FOR AUGUST DOES >ANYONE KNOW IF THET HAVE ANY SHOWS LINED UP IN NJ>@THE ARTS >CTR/JONES BEACH OR ATLANTIC CUTY @ TAJ MAHAL I KNOW FISHOF >DOES HIS 70S REVIVAL SHOWS THERE SEEN ZZ TOPP THERE LAST WEEK >STEVE/NJ ANY PPV INFO ON SEPT >IN BOSNIA??? > > > Yo Steve, No word about the Arts Center yet. That is the ultimate place for me because its near my house! There are some open dates avaliable in Sept. Lets hope for it! Bugsy...Alrighta! (Exit 80) ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:24:16 -0400 Subject: Official homepage I recently sent a message to webmaster@grandfunk.com and surprisingly got a reply. Within a few days, the page was up and running. If anyone wants to send requests or comments, appearently the place to send it is: webmaster@grandfunk.com The new page is a little sparse, but give them some time. With our input, I am sure it will be a great place to visit. Tigger2 ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:20:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Official webpage Warren, Thanks for the reply, and thanks for getting the page up and running. I am sure that it will be greatly appreciated by Grand Funk fans around the world. Tom Roberts Warren Melnick wrote: > > Tom, > > We are waiting as well.... > > At 10:21 AM 7/14/97 -0400, you wrote: > >It has been a few months now, and I still haven't seen an "Official" > >Grand Funk web site. Advertising it alone does not count as being > >there. When can we expect to see one? If this is the same fashion in > >which GFR's current management is promoting them elsewhere, I can > >understand why they are still getting little to no airplay on the radio, > >and almost no television appearances. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Tom Roberts > > > > > :-) > Warren Melnick > Network Guru, Websine, Inc. > warren@websine.com > > ...and while you're out there surfing try: > http://www.grit.com > Not a search engine for the whole Internet, but a Resource for people to > promote, hear, see and learn about what is going on on the Internet. > > Warning: Old PGP (2.6.2) key has been revoked! 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Don't unsubscribe, Rick!! I also have enjoyed your input, all of the Funksters input, whether or not I agree with it, cuz we all love GFR and their music and we all share a very special bond now!! Life is way to short, and that's all the preaching from me today!! FYI: the only difference I saw or heard in Mark on stage recently, was that when he sang :INSIDE LOOKIN OUT, he was makin up a burlap bag this year!! Otherwise, he moved and grooved me out of my LONLINESS!! GFR 4 Ever!! Peace, Roz ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:49:12 -0400 Subject: Mark preaching on stage Sometimes I think that our opinions of an event can differ from person to person. I saw Mark on a few of his solo shows, and I never thought he was "preaching." On the other hand, my wife was with me, and she commented how Mark should keep religion out of his shows. I didn't notice any major preaching between songs, but obviously he performed his Christian songs. At one show when he started singing to "Come To Jesus", I could hear her quietly say "Oh boy." It didn't offend me, but she thought that the old Sunday School "Jesus Loves Me" was just a little too much. Two people sitting at the same show with two different views...Sounds familiar to me. Maybe my wife should have been a music critic. Well, on second thought, maybe not. At least she doesn't hate GFR like the rest of the "professional" music critics out there. Tigger2 P.S. I am trying to make a deal to get some live tapes of a few of Mark's solo shows. I need some really great trading material. If anyone can help, let me know. The guy wants to add to his collection of what is already known to our list. Maybe some 96/97 shows could help. I heard bits and pieces, and they don't sound too bad for an audience recording. Maybe these tapes might help to answer the "preaching" question. Tigger2 ------------------------------ From: jw8t-tkg@asahi-net.or.jp (Toshi Takagi) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:42:08 +0900 Subject: Offcial Site Does anybody know what&s happening with official site? I finnally saw it on-line 6 hours ago. Now it appears to be off-line. Toshi Takagi ------------------------------ From: jdiller@juno.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:01:33 -0500 Subject: Hello Hi, my name is John Diller (jdiller@juno.com) and I've been a GFR fan since 1973. I have been reading the posts to roadkill for about 3 weeks now and I guess it's time to put my 2 cents in. To those of you who established GFR web-sites - God Bless You! The first album I ever heard was "Live" and it was love at first listen. To those of you think there are too many postings, all I can say is that too much Grand Funk is almost enough. Does anyone here know how to get in touch with promoters or GFR management to let them know that Houston, Texas needs a dose of rock & roll soul. One thing that I really want to say is that everyone should be thrilled that Mark Farner is a Christian. His life style was not good and I'm not saying it would have done him in. But when I read his testimony he admitted that he was out of time and choices. Now he's happy and he's rockin' and that works for me. John Diller - See Ya! ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:09:09 -0700 Subject: Re: T-shirt fam11@juno.com wrote: > I wrote before to the wrong address. > Has anybody sent money to Mike Butler for a T-shirt? I sent > > money and asked to be e-mailed when the money got there but have not > heard a word. > Hi all, I'm still here. Tony, I've been a little slow in getting the shirts out recently due to several factors. I've got a few orders to fill - but I'm basically sold-out again. Another batch of shirts will be ready July 25th. Thanks for your patience. - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:30:33 -0400 Subject: Soapbox time OK, gang, I guess I have kept my mouth closed long enough. All this bickering over really petty stuff needs to stop. I, and I suspect most of us, got into this Roadkill thing for several reasons: a love of GFRR, a desire for information, and a chance to share with other GFRR folks. For the most part, this has been the case. And, I believe Roadkill has played a significant role in the band's mini-resurgence. However, I did not get into this to witness often meaningless arguments between persons I don't really know and on topics that I don't much care about. I can participate in arguments at home, work, etc. I really don't need them here, and I don't see where they provide benefit to the Roadkill gang. I just end up quickly viewing them and finding the delete key. Nancy has the right idea. And she made me realize one more thing. My wife and I are very private people. We have our cats, a dog and a very small group of close friends. The Roadkill gang is my social group. I can be assured that something is posted every day that I didn't know and am glad to find out. But I can really live without the bickering. I have a suggestion. If you think your posting falls into a "bickering" category, why not send it directly to the person you choose to bicker with and spare the rest of us? I don't mean this to be offensive to anyone. I'd just like to see us take the high road while we're on this train. Peace, Stan Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Bill Parrette Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: The definitive list (fwd) Hi all, This was sent to one of the list administrative addresses and I believe it was intended for the list. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:33:34 -0400 (EDT) From: RobRush54@aol.com To: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: The definitive list Hey everyone!! Ive read all about the various CDs out now. Japanese imports, German imports, Crapitol releases, whatnot. I want to pick all your collective brains about what is the best to have of all the releases. I spent 5 bucks on the best of GFRR issued by cema(?) at walmart. Out of 10 songs they hacked up CTH and Gimme Shelter. But my three kids (10 and under) play the Loco-motion over and over. New GFR fans in the making! Thanks!! #===(GFR) ------------------------------ From: rozi@goodnet.com (Rosalind) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:47:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Heartbreaker/What a Tribute Thanks to all those great fans out there who have replied to my story>> To: Phil Catalono, Thank you, admire men who show tears with no fears!! Is your last name Italian?? I'm full blooded Sweet Home Chicago style@!!~! Mickey(Pamuska),Thank you, my husband,Roger of 23 yrs, whom I met one week after Mike's death(always believed Mike brought him to me) is also a Nam Vet! At the concert he wrote out on a flyer "MIA, GFR-ROCK-N-ROLL HALL OF FAME" LOVE, ROZ & ROGER, YOU FUNKED US TONITE!" He gave this to Mark when we met him, and Mark says "Thanks so much", and he kept that paper in his hand even while taking pics and signing autographs for others!! To your Nam Vet friends, plz tell them we said "WELCOME HOME"!! Brit & John, Thank you, I really love that saying "We're all one in Funk" Who started it?? Dave(Stnhnge), Thankyou for sharing a piece of your soul with me, peace be with your family, your sister and her children are never going to very far away, for they are "SHININ ON", thru the sharing of our stories, cuz Grand Funk Railroad has reunited us all!! INSIDE LOOKING OUT Peace, Roz ------------------------------ From: Nancy Barravecchio Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:58:00 -0400 Subject: [none] One thing that I really want to say is that everyone should be thrilled that Mark Farner is a Christian. His life style was not good and I'm not saying it would have done him in. But when I read his testimony he admitted that he was out of time and choices. Now he's happy and he's rockin' and that works for me. John Diller - See Ya! John, Thanks for the two cents now I was wondering for a couple more.....Do you have a copy of this testimony, I know I am a little out of the loop, but what kind of hard living was it that he was doing...Do not get me wrong (I do not want to go down the wrong track again on this one) the choice Mark made was obviously the right one for him, as long as we look at each other with the face of God looking back and treat each other with that common respect we all ask for life is good. In Love and Light, Nancy B. ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Promoters and Bookings(Was: Re: Hello) Hi all On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 jdiller@juno.com wrote: > ... > Does anyone here know how to get in touch with promoters or GFR > management to let them know that Houston, Texas needs a dose of rock & > roll soul ... Seeing as how I've been thinking about this myself recently, I thought I'd throw out some thoughts. I've never put on a concert and have only talked briefly with someone who has a few times. Has anybody on-list ever done any- thing like this before? Does anyone have any thoughts or data on about how much it would cost to promote a concert and maybe a typical return on investment? It seems to me that local promoters usually team up with spon- sors -- beer companies, radio stations, and the like -- and they share the cost of the promotional advertisements. This must be a *major* expense and not something that *I* could take on lightly. The local promoter then contacts the booking agency that is handling the act and signs a contract. I'm sure that the con- tract has some type of guarantees as to income the act will ex- pect to receive. And, the contract usually has requirements for backstage supplies, goodies, and the like as well. Does this contract typically have any other requirements or stipulations for a typical act? Maybe it really is too much for a simple boy like me! Anyway, if you know of a promoter in your local area and you want to try to get Grand Funk booked in your city ... first, point them to the Web sites and show them the support that the band has. Then, have them contact: QBQ Entertainment 341 Madison Avenue, 14th Floor New York NY 10017 212/949-6900 This is the agency that, as I understand it, is handling book- ings for Grand Funk Railroad. Then, if you get a show booked near you, let the rest of us know so that we can all help you help keep The Railroad back on track! Take care, keep Shinin' On, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who thinks that a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle. __ _-==-=_,-. +--------------------------+------------------------- /--`' \_O-O.--< ---+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive `--'\ \ <___/. | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| \ \\ " / | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | >=\\_/`< 42?| +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+--- /= | \_/|----+ _/=== \___/ ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:22:48 -0500 Subject: Re: GFR WEB On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Bugsy41157@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 97-07-15 22:04:52 EDT, you write: > >>I LIKE THE NEW WEB SITE! IT HAS NEW SHHOWS ADDED FOR AUGUST >DOES >>ANYONE KNOW IF THET HAVE ANY SHOWS LINED UP IN NJ>@THE ARTS >>CTR/JONES BEACH OR ATLANTIC CUTY @ TAJ MAHAL I KNOW >FISHOF >>DOES HIS 70S REVIVAL SHOWS THERE SEEN ZZ TOPP THERE LAST WEEK >>STEVE/NJ ANY PPV INFO ON >SEPT >>IN BOSNIA??? >> >> >> > >Yo Steve, > >No word about the Arts Center yet. That is the ultimate place for me >because >its near my house! There are some open dates avaliable in Sept. Lets >hope for >it! > >Bugsy...Alrighta! (Exit 80) > HEY where is the new web site. I could not find it in my search program?? Jim ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: GFR Re-Releases On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 JKiessl288@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Was browsing the web and came up with this from Blockbuster Music. This is > their listing of all present and future GFR CD's. Notice the "TBA"'s (To Be > Announced) listed? All were due in 96! (except the Live album). Capitol/EMI > are the listed distributors. So what happened? Phil, any ideas? > > Funkin' in N.Y..........John > > Grand Funk RailroadLive Album [TBA] (1997) > The Loco-Motion/We're An... [Single] (1997) > We're An American Band (1996) > Survival [TBA] (1996) > On Time [TBA] (1996) > E Pluribus Funk (1995) > Closer To Home (1995) > Shining On (1995) > Caught In The Act (1995) > Heavy Hitters! (1992) > More Of The Best (1991) > Capitol Collectors Series (1991) > Great! > Mark, Don & Mel 1969-71 > Grand Funk [TBA] John, Yeah, at some point in time between '95-'96 a bunch of GFR CDs had real release dates on them, I believe all were in '96. They were even gonna release All The Girls. But then at some point in time most of them changed to TBA but they did release a few, like WAAB, CTH, E Pluribus and Survival for a brief period of time. As to what happened, I haven't a clue. Just another GFR disappointment! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:28:55 -0400 Subject: RE: just to you Hi all. I saw Mark solo once or twice in Massachusetts while he was = doing some religious songs. I don't recall any out-and-out religious preaching like a minister would = do at a pulpit. But then I haven't seen him 15 times either. I suppose in the right setting he would feel = it appropriate to do some preaching, and maybe that infrequently = happened. I believe those who have not witnessed it and those who have. = =20 I guess the big ? for me is - exactly what did he say? Inquiring minds = what to know!! Peace boys, Leo - -----Original Message----- From: lichtj@mhv.net [SMTP:lichtj@mhv.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 10:12 PM To: Ljb Subject: Re: just to you RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: >=20 > i just asking you if he actually preached or introdsuced songs: i = wanted a > clearafacation, and i do think this is geeting off tract, also I am = getting > like 40 e-mails a day from the list, and i'm trying not to clog the = Funk > List. It seems like your the only one on the lsit that seem Mark = perach from > the stage, every else said he was low key, saying after playing funk = songs > thats where i was at, now hear i am now then paly some Christian = songs. Or > hears some God Rock, or hears a song about the love from above. My = whole > point of this is someone said they (DON I guess) made Mark signe a = contract > agreeing not to perach from the stage. I felt that was crazy, but many = people > said it was true. If it were me, I would give my word not to preach, = and if > that was not enough, I would not fhave reformed GFR; thats just the = way I am, > my word is my bound. You came in in the middle of a convo I was having = with > others. I'm writting this back to you on the list SO EVERYONE CAN SEE = MY > VOMIT TO YOU. I guess no one can ask you to clarify a point, or be a = little > sarcastic with out you losin your mind. My pleasure. >=20 > Rick ; ) Dear Rick, I guess since I'm the only one on the list that has seen Mark=20 preach, I must be mistaken. From now on, Mark has never preached=20 from the stage. I thought your note was more than "a little=20 sarcastic". Your word seems to be unassailable to you, but mine isn't=20 good enough. That's a curious double standard. Many on the list have=20 emailed me privately, but you are the only one to ask me to clarify a=20 point by peppering the note with condescending bologna. I also get as=20 many emails as you do. If you can't keep up, there are options.=20 I'm going to try to get back on track by concentrating on my top=20 20 albums of all time selections. Thanks, Rick. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 9:50:11 -0800 Subject: RE:Re: Bad Time To Be In Love Message is sent with MIME. Attachments are base64 encoded - --TFS-with-MIME-and-DIME Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable >Funkola wrote: > >>You have jogged my memory on something Donna! I remember reading in >>Parade magazine that when Mark was 29 he married a 16 year old girl from >>Michigan who supposedly knew nothing of his days on the 'railroad'=2E I >>believe the year was about 1978=2E >> >>Now don't jump all over me about starting rumours guys=2E This is just >>what I read and I still have the clipping somewhere in my pile of stuff=2E >> >>Can anybody shed any light on this? Was it complete bullshit? 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I saw Mark solo once or twice in Massachusetts while he was doing some religious songs. > I don't recall any out-and-out religious preaching like a minister would do at a pulpit. But then I haven't > seen him 15 times either. I suppose in the right setting he would feel it appropriate to do some preaching, and maybe that infrequently happened. I believe t > I guess the big ? for me is - exactly what did he say? Inquiring minds what to know!! Dear Leo, I made recordings of two of Marks solo shows. They came out horrible, The bass just overwhelmed all the other instruments and ruined the recording. I could review these shows for preaching. I was also at the Hadley, Mass. show in 1991(at Katinas). I do remember one instance when Mark was decrying material values on stage. I think that it was just before he played "No False Idols" and he said that after we all die and are sitting together out in the street naked without our jewelry and furs, that it will be impossible to figure out who had the Jaguar and nice house and all the money in life. I saw this guy so many times. I called his hotline every week and I went to just about every show in the Northeast between '85 & '95. He got into it pretty heavy on occasion. It was infrequent, but it did happen. He is trying to convert people. Hope this helps. Apologies to all who found the Rick/Jim show offensive. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: "Rex D. Hutto" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:27:13 -0500 Subject: RE: Hey Sarge Now WAIT just a MINUTE! This is getting personal. I grew up in Kokomo. My mom still lives there. I learned to love Grand Funk as a teenager in Kokomo. You can't nuke it. Oooo, a storm is threatenin' my very life today. If I don't get some shelter, oh, I'm gonna' fade away. Oooo, see the fire sweeping, up every street today. Burns like a red-coal carpet, mad bull lost its way. War children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away. War children, it's just a shot away, it's just a shot away. GIMME SHELTER! :-) Rex Hutto Wolfeboro, NH (but always a Hoosier at heart) - -----Original Message----- From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net [SMTP:Narqualung@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 10:15 AM To: DaveFest57@aol.com Cc: grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Re: Hey Sarge DaveFest57@aol.com wrote: > > < Am I the only GFR fan in Indiana? > > Not by any means. I'm in Clarksville > ...after enough stones are thrown there's going to be one, long, straight bypass > from the southern border of the state to the northern border. With this new > road, GFR can do an Indiana tour, gigging at each major city in or near the > middle of the state, from South Bend to Clarksville, and everywhere in > between. sounds like a good idea, no? > Either a long bypass or we could nuke KoKoMo........ ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #97 *******************************