From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #96 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Tuesday, 15 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 096 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Watson Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:03:18 +0100 Subject: Free Farner CD (result) Please accept this global reply everybody. I didn't expect such a stampede, and was swamped with takers!!! Anyway,the first mail to reach my server was from Robert Bodily. (Commiserations if somebody replied before but was held up somewhere in this wonderful world of communications!) I'm just sorry I only had the one copy. Dave - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Jimmy G." Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:22:58 -0400 Subject: ATGITWB I got my ATGITWB and Shinin' On import CD's today from Buccaneer Records in Baltimore..only 5 days after I ordered them. I was on a backorder list on two other mailorder houses. I forgot how much I like the All the Girls album...this is one of my favorite funk albums...just listen to the bass-line on the All the Girls cut; and Runnin'...really great songs! Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:33:05 -0700 Subject: RE: apologises Yeah, lucky for us Chris, Sunny has a great sense of humor! I know I put = my foot in my mouth at least twice every time I've talked with her! ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:44:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Back on line? Roadkill Gang... In case you haven't noticed I've been out of the loop since last Thursday thanks to my system administrators over here. What a nightmare! Anyway, I should be back on-line now, we'll se how it goes. Did I miss much? Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: RE: apologises Hi Donna! She seems a fine lady. I sent her my grovelling letter about the voice in the background of Closer to Home and got that nice cheery answer in a less than a day. I almost fell over, and have bored everyone I know about it since . . . . See Ya! - ----- Ken KEN BLACKLEY email: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Donna Wightman wrote: > Yeah, lucky for us Chris, Sunny has a great sense of humor! I know I put my foot in my mouth at least twice every time I've talked with her! > > ------------------------------ From: HELLONEWMAN@webtv.net Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:10:39 -0400 Subject: Fwd: THIS IS SCARY!! - --WebTV-Mail-1451109021-2475 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT - --WebTV-Mail-1451109021-2475 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-Warning: topquark.roadkill.com: majordomo set sender to owner-grand-funk using -f From: HELLONEWMAN@webtv.net Message-Id: <199707081949.MAA19676@mailtod-1.alma.webtv.net> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:49:56 -0400 To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: THIS IS SCARY!! Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: HELLONEWMAN@webtv.net hi......go to Hot Bot .....put in DAVID FISHOF PRESENTS........then go to number 3......read his history, i love gfr known them since 1970, but to have this guy whose resume is a monkee re union, a mortal kombat show oldies reviews>i just think you yuo need someone who knows how to manage a rock.ill say it again>ROCK ACT , this guy even did a dance fever show,he might be great as a but i hope n pray he knows what to do with a rock band! steve/nj the video was too dark> couldnt he hire a pro co? or just sell copies of the vegas show1 - --WebTV-Mail-1451109021-2475-- ------------------------------ From: GEODOG8809@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: unsubscribe Unsubscribe ------------------------------ From: loop@webtv.net Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:36:38 -0400 Subject: THIS N THAT HI IJUST ORDERED THE BEACON VIDEO CANT WAIT TO GET IT1 HOW IS THE PICTURE N SOUND IF I PUT IT THRU A GOOD AUDIO SYSTEM? IS THERE AUBURN VIDEO DEAD?? PLEASE POST IF ANT NEWNORTHEAST DATES N APPV OF THE SEPT SHOW IN BOSNIA EVER GETS OFF THE DRAWING BOARD......i doubt it STEVE/NJ oh!theauburn video is too dark!ANSWER>hire a pro videoprod co! its that ez ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Back on line? DEAR PHIL,YES,SINCE YOUVE BEEN GONE GFR HAS RE-SOLD THEYRE ENTIRE CD CATALOGUE BY MILLIONS.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:32:25 -0700 Subject: Re: 20 Favorite albums Hi guys its Pat Cass calling my top 20 1-GFR pheonix 2-Humble Pie Smokin 3Deep Purple Burn 4-Alice Cooper Billion Dollar Babies 5-Chilliwak Lights from the Valley 6-J Geils Band Bloodshot 7-Joe Cocker Mad Dogs 8-Boston 9-Streetheart Meanwhile back in paris 10-Jethro Tull Aqulung well what about 10 best Pat Cass - ---------- > From: Sam LeMaster > To: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: 20 Favorite albums > Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 1:59 PM > > Hey Gang, > List your 20 favorite albums of all time. And you can only choose one > GFR album. The rest has to be by other bands. Have fun! > Peace...Sam > > 1) GFR Live Album > 2) Steppenwolf Live > 3)Chicago 2 > 4)Yes Fragile > 5)Alice Cooper Billion Dollar Babies > 6) David Bowie Aladdin Sane > 7)Edgar Winter's White Trash Roadwork > 8)Mahavishnu Orchestra Birds of Fire > 9)ELP Brain Salad Surgery > 10) BTO Not Fragile > 11)The Who Live at Leeds > 12)Zappa Overnight Sensation > 13)Joe Cocker Mad Dogs & Englishmen > 14)Joe Walsh Smoker you drink the player you get > 15)Neil Young Weld > 16)Lou Reed Transformer > 17)Kiss Alive > 18)Bad Company Bad Co. > 19)Black Sabbath Black Sabbath > 20) Rolling Stones Get Yer Ya's Ya's Out ------------------------------ From: HELLONEWMAN@webtv.net Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:31:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Back on line? hey phil1 sinsce you went away they played in colorado every nite for 3plus hours n dedicated every show to you! your jersey connection vinny the chin s cousin steve/nj later bud! ------------------------------ From: mustang Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:44:53 -0400 Subject: Good Weekend - Roseville, Mi Album/CD Convention Had a good Funk hunting weekend. Picked up Survival which has Mark's caveman 8x10 photo autographed. I grabbed it for only $12. I already framed the pic. The album and cover are maybe VG - who cares - the photo is well worth the investment. I also picked up a mint copy of Mark's solo album - incredibly for a buck. I love GFR, but that album may have been priced accurately. Strong voice - lame tunes in my humble opinion. ...waiting for On Time at the end of the month Bill Cook ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:42:58 -0700 Subject: Phil, you missed it Phil, You mean you did not get the personal e-mail Mark Farner sent you??? funkster tom tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:05:36 -0700 Subject: Vegas pix!!! Hello Roadkill, I want to personally thank Robert & Denise Bodily for the awesome pictures of Mark Farner and Me. I never thought I'd see them again; GFRR' Let alone be back stage with my absolute favorite Musical musicians!! You guy's are great, the picture turned out PERFECT! I will frame it after I find out if I can blow it up first, then I'll frame them both! If there is anything I can do for you, please let me know. I do have some shots from the Vegas Concert 3rd row center, as well as Mel doing his Muscle man act in Del Mar. Ya, thats what I'll do I'll send You as well as John Monalbano, and of course R. Cappetto a copy. You guys are great! As for anyone else who wants copies Just e-mail me and I'll give you my adress, just send a sase to me and I will make the copies and send them out. Donna: you are right, the internet does have something tangible and real to offer, Roadkill! sincerely, funkster tom tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:18:34 -0700 Subject: Re: GFR's change in music style afre E.Pluribus Funk Tom Roberts wrote: Another undeniable fact is that each of > those albums were produced by Terry Knight. One producer for all those > albums who knew how to get the driving rock sound out of a three man > rock band. Unlike > Terry Knight, these other producers didn't have a chance to realize the > full potential of the power Mark, Don & Mel could produce in the > studio. Like him or hate him, Terry Knight was basically the creator of > Grand Funk, and had a vision for the sound he wanted from the start. Dear Tom, Mark Farner was "basically the Creator of Grand Funk." How many GFRR songs did Knight write? I think that they could have been even better in the early years if they had been produced by a professional producer like Al Kooper or Bill Szymczyk. Could you imagine giving Ted Templeman the credit for Van Halen's and the Doobie Brother's success? How come Knight never produced anyone of note other than our boys? Because he was a talentless, abrasive ripoff artist. Thanks. Talk soon. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 02:19:07 -0400 Subject: Top 20, covers Believe it or not, several years ago, I heard a soul group with a woman singing do a cover of funk's Country Road, on the radio. I don't know who they were though. My top 20 Led Zep 2 Led Zep Physical Graffitti E Pluribus Funk Doobie Bros - Capt. & Me ZZTop - 1st Album STP - Core GNR - App. for Destruction Eagles - Grt. Hits Aerosmith - Get Your Wings Aerosmith - Rocks AC/DC - Back In Black AC/DC - Highway to Hell Elvis - In Person Beatles - Sgt. Pepper Bad Co. 1st album Van Halen 1st album Ted Nugent 1st album Kiss - Hotter Than Hell SRV - Texas Flood SRV - Couldn't Stand the Weather ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:49:27 -0500 Subject: Re: GFR's change in music style afre E.Pluribus Funk On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 01:18:34 -0700 James Lichtenberg writes: >Tom Roberts wrote: > Another undeniable fact is that each of >> those albums were produced by Terry Knight. One producer for all >those >> albums who knew how to get the driving rock sound out of a three man >> rock band. Unlike >> Terry Knight, these other producers didn't have a chance to realize >the >> full potential of the power Mark, Don & Mel could produce in the >> studio. Like him or hate him, Terry Knight was basically the >creator of >> Grand Funk, and had a vision for the sound he wanted from the start. > > >Dear Tom, > Mark Farner was "basically the Creator of Grand Funk." How many >GFRR >songs did Knight write? I think that they could have been even better >in >the early years if they had been produced by a professional producer >like Al Kooper or Bill Szymczyk. Could you imagine giving Ted >Templeman >the credit for Van Halen's and the Doobie Brother's success? How come >Knight never produced anyone of note other than our boys? Because he >was a talentless, abrasive ripoff artist. Thanks. Talk soon. > > Regards, > Jim > Now this is what I live for. A tasteful, meaningful discussion of the issues. . . . Jim, I agree with you that Terry was a talentless, abrasive ripoff artist. However, he did get alot of mileage out of the idea of "The people band" and the distaste the critics had for our favorite band. His shameless promotion is what got this train rolling. It is quite possible that he retarded their musical talent just to maintain their "outlaw" image. Remember, they were the band with "no talent". And he never seemed to dispute that. We all know different, they have great talent. And they were able to express that talent in the post Knight albums. But, it is interesting that their "customer base" changed at the same time. When they went "top 40" the original fans (most but not all) left them behind. They had sold out to the commerical interests. Interesting phrase, "commercial interst", it was Knights comercial interest they were feeding before they dumped him. Anyway, they developed a new fan base with the WAAB album. Alot of people don't even know about the early, Knight produced albums. Why?, I think because they were basically an underground band before the Top 40 binge. This may be a bad comparison but, look at the "Grateful Dead". Not many "lay people" can name even one album they recorded. However, everyone likes to be a "dead head". I remember the Grateful Dead in 1974 and 75 as a band with a great name but little more. They had one hit song called "Truckin". However, 20 years later they were one of the biggest acts in Rock and Roll. Grand Funk can be at least as big if not bigger. But maybe they don't want to be. What exactly are the aims of the reformation of the band? To rekindle the past? A new beginning with "older and wiser" heads prevailing? Is this a "money motivated" deal? (we have bills to pay, afterall). I'd like to hear some opinions on these and other questions regarding GFR. And who else should discuss them, but the FUNK FAITHFUL. If this doesn't warrant a reaction, I'll hang up my keyboard. Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... Funkola wrote: >... would also love to hear 'Can You Do It' live. It sounds like they had >a great time recording that one. >Funkola I also love this song. I did get to hear Mark perform it live two years ago . As I recall, it sounded just as good as it did on GSGP. This album definitely has to be released on CD! Gas N Oil Guy ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: A Bad Time To Be In Love Funkola wrote: >You have jogged my memory on something Donna! I remember reading in >Parade magazine that when Mark was 29 he married a 16 year old girl from >Michigan who supposedly knew nothing of his days on the 'railroad'. I >believe the year was about 1978. >Now don't jump all over me about starting rumours guys. This is just >what I read and I still have the clipping somewhere in my pile of stuff. >Can anybody shed any light on this? Was it complete bullshit? Does >anybody know for a fact? I don't know if it is true, but I remember reading the exact same thing. At the time, I couldn't believe she didn't know anything about Grand Funk. Gas N Oil Guy ------------------------------ From: EfahsT@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... In a message dated 97-07-10 13:05:11 EDT, wap@one.net (William A. Parrette) writes: << EfhasT still pops his head in once in a while. Wherlegreg stops in now and again. Yeah, we're all still here. However, I do wonder where the Turtle went to? >> What's this, Whirl? Someone remembers us members of the ORIGINAL chat on AOL that began in the Fall of 95? I've been wondering where IMTURTLE2 is myself. Last two emails I sent him were deleted, I think without being read. I knew he was busy helping with the Auburn Hills show but I'd hoped he would resurface afterwards. For those of you who don't know, I think it was IMTURTLE2 who created the very first Grand Funk folder on AOL. Do you remember Whirl? Some of those very first messages were just greetings and I didn't keep them, but for the most part, I still have the entire 16 months or so of messages from then. IMTURTLE2 had recorded a song with Mark during the 80's, I think, for some charity project. He had faxed Mark, and I think run into him one day. GF was secretly practicing, but Mark's responce to IMTURTLE2 would indicate something was up. Then the Lifetime Achievement Award GF received gave Whirl & IMTURTLE2 the chance to see all three members and talk a bit. Shortly after that, I think, was the first reunion show in Raleigh, NC, which Whirl & IMTURTLE2 drove all the way from Michigan to see. Next, Whirl was given EXCLUSIVE access to the band at some hideaway location as they continued to plan & practice their set for the short 96 tour. Whirl would write out every detail he could think of about what they did, what they said to him, what he saw & heard. And being a true fan, it took us all right there with him. When I read people on roadkill speaking affectionately toward one another it reminds me of the camaraderie we had then in the AOL discussions. There was IMTURTE2, Jim, the drummer in Michigan who loved GF since he was a young teen. He saw them way back before they became famous to the rest of us. WhirleGreg, a true fan who seem to make all the shows Jim did and who followed the band's practices for the 96 tour. ArtWhims, wife of Mel's best friend, and a true fan herself. Tommyrockr, a bass player for a NY group called Tex Wagner, who recorded Sins A Good Man's Brother. I think it was Whirl who played this recording for GF at the Lifetime Achievement Awards to which the band gave a thumbs up. And there was RAYROD78, who had once met Mark during his solo career and had Mark sign EVERY GF LP cover he owned. RAYROD78 also was our scan man at the time. If there was a GF photo, he could scan it and email it to us. Some of our live discussions are on my web site. I can't figure out why our group didn't transfer all of our discussion over to roadkill. Its fun, but it just ain't the same. Maybe we burned out as AOL kept deleting our message folder. There were so many others I can't remember them all: YSYA1, Rolliman, Sdanc, Chotz1. I love and miss them all. Bill, I use to feel a bit embarrassed because I knew you were such a big fan but there was no way us AOL GF fans could talk live with you on your internet account. I was afraid you would feel left out. I suggested to the AOL fans a couple of times that we move our discussion to an internet newsgroup, but the reaction was mixed so we stayed put. There is no GF message folder on AOL now. Has not been for many months. Has anyone using AOL been able to join in the discussions on Donna's site? Anyway, you can see this message was prompted by Bill's message on 7/10; 5 days ago. I stay behind on my email because there are so many messages here. Thanks for thinking of us, Bill. Tim ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ? Tigger2 wrote: >Ms. Baker, > I couldn't agree more ... but in addition to a spell check, I think we >also need a grammar checker. I can't understand how we don't know the >difference between "there" and "their", or "here" and "hear". It drives >me up the wall trying to read certain messages. Sometimes the messages >have great content, but are looking like a fifth grader typed them. > Sorry, but she got me started. >Tigger2 I agree 100% Also, it helps the reader when long messages are broken up into short paragraphs, separated by a blank line. ------------------------------ From: KimMacz@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ? In a message dated 97-07-15 09:22:41 EDT, Gasnoilguy@aol.com writes: << aphs, separated by a blank line. >> Oh maaaaaaan... and I was sure Gas spelled separate wrong......Any other requests before I bury my nose in Websters again???? Peace Kim ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:07:08 -0400 Subject: Re: GFR's change in music style afre E.Pluribus Funk > > Tom Roberts wrote: > > Another undeniable fact is that each of > > those albums were produced by Terry Knight. One producer for all those > > albums who knew how to get the driving rock sound out of a three man > > rock band. Unlike > > Terry Knight, these other producers didn't have a chance to realize the > > full potential of the power Mark, Don & Mel could produce in the > > studio. Like him or hate him, Terry Knight was basically the creator of > > Grand Funk, and had a vision for the sound he wanted from the start. > > Dear Tom, > Mark Farner was "basically the Creator of Grand Funk." How many GFRR > songs did Knight write? I think that they could have been even better in > the early years if they had been produced by a professional producer > like Al Kooper or Bill Szymczyk. Could you imagine giving Ted Templeman > the credit for Van Halen's and the Doobie Brother's success? How come > Knight never produced anyone of note other than our boys? Because he > was a talentless, abrasive ripoff artist. Thanks. Talk soon. > > Regards, > Jim Jim, I still maintain that TK was the creator of Grand Funk. After the breakup of "The Pack" he kept Mark and Don, and added Mel (practically stole him from "? & The Mysterians"). You don't have to write the songs to be the driving force behind a band. If writing the songs is considered being the creator, then Leiber & Stroller should have been one of the biggest recording acts of all time! I'll agree that TK was not one of the most scrupulous manager of all time, but he is not the only one who screwed his band into the ground. The fortunate thing is that Mark, Don and Mel saw the writing on the wall, and fired him. It's just too bad it had to happen. My point about being the only producer for all the early albums is that he kept their sound consistent. He didn't try to polish them up and make them top 40 the way Todd Rundgren and Jimmy Ienner did. Terry Knight DID produce at least two other bands that immediately come to mind. "Bloodrock" (remember them?) and "Faith". The reason you may not think of him producing them is because just like Grand Funk, they also had NO top 10 hits under TK. I said it before, and I'll say it again...Like him or hate him, he made Grand Funk what they were in the beginning. Another thing that I didn't mention is that he may have had the critics hating them, but at least they got SOME press. Today, the music critics still hate them. Why? Because of Terry Knight? No...They are just doing their job, being music critics, flaming everything that is not production line top 40. I wish David Fischof would promote Grand Funk at least just a little. No press, no news, almost zero TV appearances. He gave us an "official" homepage. If you haven't been there yet, go to http://www.grandfunk.com/index.html and see how Mr. Fishof is promoting them. Just a hint; the last time the page has been updated was Wednesday, May 14, 1997 14:11:08 GMT, and that was to change the spelling of their name. Imagine that, his people couldn't even spell "Grand Funk Railroad" correctly, and they are responsible for PROMOTING GFR. If Terry Knight would have had the power of the internet at his hands, we would have been barraged with information. It's getting time for me to get ready for work now, so I have to keep it sort of short. I'm ready for round two. I know some (maybe most) will still disagree, but that's OK. I'm just one fan with my own opinion. Also Jim, let me know where you live. Maybe we can get together sometime. By the way, there's an idea. Maybe we can all put our mailing addresses up so we know how close we live to each other. Getting together with other Funk fans doesn't have to wait for Funkfest. Tigger2 Tom Roberts 333 Front Street Catasauqua, PA 18032 Catasauqua (pronounced kat-a-sau-kwa) is located next to Allentown, PA. ------------------------------ From: rozi@goodnet.com (Rosalind) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:25:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: Heartbreaker/What a Tribute Hi all my fellow Funk Fans, "ARE YOU READY"? I have a special story to tell concerning my going to the 6/28 Phx,AZ show! When I first heard the boys were going to do a show here, it was very bittersweet for me! I found Donna's web site the same day, and decided to tell her a story of me seeing GFR for the first time. Step into to my "TIME MACHINE">>>>>>>>>> The subject line was"Heartbreaker", and goes>>My brother, Michael DeVincenzo and I were BIG fans of the boys, he had just returned from a one year service call in the Army and Viet Nam about one and half months prior to the annoucement of Grand Funk tickets to be in Arixona in a couple of weeks down in Tucson,AZ(about 120 miles south of Phoenix) The date of show was 12/4/72. We were so excited, esp me knowing my brother made it back from that terrible war alive and in one piece! Little did I know at that time that this would be Michael's(20years old) last concert and I would take of the last picture my bro driving us down to the concert, for on 1/24/73 he died of an overdose of herion, which he had started in the war! I had ended my story to Donna asking her if she could help me get backstage passes to the show so I could tell GFR what that show meant to me and esp Michael., not expecting what follows. I saw GFR 2 times after first one, was never same for me or as exciting till this one!! Lovely Donna was moved by my story and directed to share story with Sunny Quinn, wrote her, she was also moved, shows letter to Don, and on the day of the show I had 2 backstage passes at the will call window! I met the boys after that awesome show, showed them pics of my brother and was able to share with them the a piece of my life. Went up to Sunny and said "Hi Sunny, I'm Roz and I wanna thankyou so much", She instanstly remembered me and gave me a hug and said "When she showed Don the letter he says"How could I not let her", all the boys hated that terrible war and the scars!@! I showed her and the boys Mikes pics, they were all so wonderful to me!! WHAT A TRIBUTE, to my brother, 26 years after his death, In a very beautiful sense,Mike and I were at another special GFR show!! I will be sending Donna the pics of me and boys and she will post my stories and pics on her website, for all to read and see! Can you guys believe it, Donna, Sunny and the boys are "SOME KINDA WONDERFUL, and brought the memory of my brother Michael, "CLOSER TO HOME" I stilll can't believe I met the guys, they definitelly "FUNKED ME" that nite,(told that to Mel when I met him and he says," That's my job!! ha ha) "FEELIN ALRIGHT" Peace, Roz All of you are very special friends of mine now!! ------------------------------ From: DOdell4280@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: trivia#4 (free E Purblius Funk album + vg condition) This one comes from an article with Tery Knight. he says If your going to be a so-called band of the people, you should represent yourself truly to the people. Why havent gfr been heard from? "I think theyre afraid of damaging their images. The topic ive chosen to speak out on is pretty unpopular because it seems to conflict with ecology." what is Terry referring to about this pro-ecology band? ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 09:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: ? On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 Gasnoilguy@aol.com wrote: > Tigger2 wrote: > > >Ms. Baker, > > > I couldn't agree more ... but in addition to a spell check, I think we > >also need a grammar checker. I can't understand how we don't know the > >difference between "there" and "their", or "here" and "hear". It drives > >me up the wall trying to read certain messages. Sometimes the messages > >have great content, but are looking like a fifth grader typed them. > > Sorry, but she got me started. > > >Tigger2 > > > I agree 100% Also, it helps the reader when long messages are broken up into > short paragraphs, separated by a blank line. > Grammar? Spelling? Commas? Paragraphs? Blank lines? What are these things? - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:10:30 -0400 Subject: Little Strange? Hi Gang Dont you think its a little strange that a guy with a camcorder got the beacon show on tape and with all the expensive camera stuff they had at the Auburn show the video was too dark. I think they just dont want to risk putting it out and having it flop. Time Warner was in charge of that I think. I hope the cd comes out on time and does not end up on the cutting room floor. I sent Sunny a message asking her to ask them if they could sell the video to the roadkill gang. I dont care if its a little dark do you? Hell I would send them a check today. Just a thought...Sam ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:00:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Little Strange? On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Sam LeMaster wrote: > Hi Gang > Dont you think its a little strange that a guy with a camcorder got the > beacon show on tape and with all the expensive camera stuff they had at the > Auburn show the video was too dark. I think they just dont want to risk > putting it out and having it flop. Time Warner was in charge of that I > think. I hope the cd comes out on time and does not end up on the cutting > room floor. I sent Sunny a message asking her to ask them if they could sell > the video to the roadkill gang. I dont care if its a little dark do you? > Hell I would send them a check today. > Just a thought...Sam I'd buy it! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Sue Moore Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:26:38 -0400 Subject: Re: A Bad Time To Be In Love Tony Cawthorne wrote: > einar@rfci.net wrote: > > > > Donna Wightman wrote: > > > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > (By the way, good to hear from you!) > > > > Thanks! Your site and Bill's have grown a little bit lately I see. > There > > are so many GFR sites out there now it is unreal. I think I'll limit > my > > new site to press kits and pictures etc. I'll probably have a > guestbook > > also since the guys and gals seemed to like the other one I had. > > > > > About the 16 year old girl that Mark married, Sunny Q also > mentioned > > > that Mark's wife Leisa was 16 when he met her. > > > > I thought his present wife was the same one that I had read > about.... > > > > > Steve & Carol Lisuk knew Mark in the old days when he was married > to > > > another woman named Sherrie? I think, and after they divorced, he > was > > > with Donna from Wet Willy for a couple years before he met Leisa. > > > I also read in an old magazine article during GSGP era, Mark was > asked > > > if he was going to marry Donna, and he said "no". > > > > I'm so jealous of you guys that have been able to meet Mark, Don and > Mel > > etc. I'll really wish they would come south this year. Little Rock > is a > > start, but I mean the deep south! > > > > Later, > > > > Funkola > > Yes I Agree I would love to see them in the south, althogh I have got > to > meet Mark..many years ago in Dallas,TX He was touring useing a band > called "Adrenalin" (sp?) they had a song on the "Iron Eagle II" > soundtrack (not Mark just the band he was with then) Had a guitar > player > with him that was really very good..Mike Romeo..I think anyone > remember? > Anyway back to the subject at hand I would love to see a show here in > Atlanta seems appropriate since it all kinda got kick started here at > the pop festival. Anyone know if there is any chance of a show here or > > somewhere close?? > > Peace, > T.C. I asked Sunny Quinn about GFR playing in the south and she explained that they are booking what is being offered them that is acceptable. Evidently, no promoter in the south has made them offer that they like. Until one does, I guess there's no chance. ------------------------------ From: Sue Moore Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: ? Phil Catalano wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 Gasnoilguy@aol.com wrote: > > > Tigger2 wrote: > > > > >Ms. Baker, > > > > > I couldn't agree more ... but in addition to a spell check, I > think we > > >also need a grammar checker. I can't understand how we don't know > the > > >difference between "there" and "their", or "here" and "hear". It > drives > > >me up the wall trying to read certain messages. Sometimes the > messages > > >have great content, but are looking like a fifth grader typed them. > > > > Sorry, but she got me started. > > > > >Tigger2 > > > > > > I agree 100% Also, it helps the reader when long messages are > broken up into > > short paragraphs, separated by a blank line. > > > > Grammar? Spelling? Commas? Paragraphs? Blank lines? What are these > things? > > --==--= > --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= > Phil Catalano > phil.catalano@mci.com > --==--==--==--==--==--== > -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Parts of the English language that make it easier to communicate with each other! ------------------------------ From: TamaDrumer@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HEY WHEN? WHEN IS THE GFR AUBRAUN CONCERT LIVE CD GOING TO BE RELEASED ------------------------------ From: JKiessl288@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GFR Re-Releases Hi Everyone, Was browsing the web and came up with this from Blockbuster Music. This is their listing of all present and future GFR CD's. Notice the "TBA"'s (To Be Announced) listed? All were due in 96! (except the Live album). Capitol/EMI are the listed distributors. So what happened? Phil, any ideas? Funkin' in N.Y..........John Grand Funk RailroadLive Album [TBA] (1997) The Loco-Motion/We're An... [Single] (1997) We're An American Band (1996) Survival [TBA] (1996) On Time [TBA] (1996) E Pluribus Funk (1995) Closer To Home (1995) Shining On (1995) Caught In The Act (1995) Heavy Hitters! (1992) More Of The Best (1991) Capitol Collectors Series (1991) Great! Mark, Don & Mel 1969-71 Grand Funk [TBA] ------------------------------ From: "Jimmy G." Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:24:14 -0400 Subject: GFR Website Hey Everybody: The official GFR website is up!! Jim G. ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Funk roadkill comraderie (Was: Re: Funk vocals and such.....) Hi all, On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 EfahsT@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-10 13:05:11 EDT, wap@one.net (William A. Parrette) > writes: > > << EfhasT still pops his head in once in a while. Wherlegreg stops in now > and again. Yeah, we're all still here. However, I do wonder where the > Turtle went to? >> > > What's this, Whirl? Someone remembers us members of the ORIGINAL chat on > AOL that began in the Fall of 95? ... That's it, Tim, rub it in ... just yell it out that you had the ORIGINAL chat forum on AOL. ;-) Okay, I'll admit it, when you first contacted me I was a lit- tle jealous. After all of the searching I had done on the 'Net, here was a band of true fans who were talking about what I wanted to talk about and I couldn't participate. You had my "mouth watering," and I almost joined AOL then and there. I just couldn't justify paying for two service providers -- one of which I would only use for a single feature. But, we got together anyway -- right? And we're finally chatting about the Funk together, right? > ... I've been wondering where IMTURTLE2 is > myself ... I've been curious about this too. Turtle was such a wealth of information and then after the Auburn Hills show he kind of dis- appeared. I know he was getting his roadkill mail and reading it until recently. I just started getting "full mailbox" messages from his account a few days ago. I hope all is well up there in Flint! > ... > WhirleGreg, a true fan who seem to make all the shows Jim did and who > followed the band's practices for the 96 tour. ArtWhims, wife of Mel's best > friend, and a true fan herself. Tommyrockr, a bass player ... > ... And there was RAYROD78, who had once met > Mark during his solo career and had Mark sign EVERY GF LP cover he owned ... Well, WhirleGreg is on-list (with a full mailbox as well) as is ArtWhims. I don't think Tommyrockr ever subscribed -- I'm not sure -- but RAYROD78 has never signed on to this list. I wish we could get some more of you ORIGINAL (;-) ) AOL'ers on-list here. After reading some of your chat transcripts, even though at times it seemed like it was difficult to stay on topic, you folks had some great things to talk about. I would like to see some more of that stuff in this forum! > ... > Bill, I use to feel a bit embarrassed because I knew you were such a big > fan but there was no way us AOL GF fans could talk live with you on your > internet account. I was afraid you would feel left out. I suggested to the > AOL fans a couple of times that we move our discussion to an internet > newsgroup, but the reaction was mixed so we stayed put ... Well, Tim, I hope you got over it. :-) I hope you're feeling better. I *did* finally get into a chat even if it wasn't the ORIGINAL. (Please note how my tongue is firmly in my cheek as I shout ORIGINAL -- I'm just having a little fun with it and am not trying to make a "statement" of any kind. This is also why I'm trying to use a bunch of smileys -- to let you know I'm happy and just trying to have a little fun.) Personally, I'm glad that you didn't break out into a news- group. Have you been in USENET lately? It's a tea-total mess!! There's so much spamming and cross-posting going on -- not to mention the difficulty most groups have staying on-topic. I still have around 200 entries in my .newsrc file, but I just scan through the groups and don't participate much because of all of the "poop" going on there. One of the reasons I searched so long for a mailing list is that it is a little more private and people have to work a little harder to join and post. USENET is just too public and everyone with an opinion seems to want to wave it in everybody else's faces whether its appropriate or not. USENET used to be so cool -- now it seems like so much garbage. > ... Has anyone using > AOL been able to join in the discussions on Donna's site? ... I enabled Java on my copy of Netscape once just to see what would happen when I "entered the chat room." Unfortunately, my old '030 Mac just doesn't have the horsepower to make it worth- while for me. It took my browser a good ten minutes just to download everything it needed to use the page and chat. I'll get a faster Mac someday! ... and a laptop PC to run UNIX on ... and a scanner to get pictures up faster ... and a new printer that prints at something higher than 300 dpi ... and a new set of drums ... and ... Well, you get the idea. Now, where's those lottery numbers I picked out? > ... > Anyway, you can see this message was prompted by Bill's message on 7/10; 5 > days ago. I stay behind on my email because there are so many messages here. > Thanks for thinking of us, Bill ... Join the club, Tim. Sometimes it is hard for me to believe how busy and popular this list has become. Heck, I still remem- ber my first couple of messages to the list in which I pleaded for any and all kinds of participation. Now, I have people who can't remember how to or forget to unsubscribe when the go on va- cation telling me they come back to a mailbox full of 600+ mes- sages! Is this great, or what?!? And, thank *you* Tim, for all of your participation, com- ments, and support. Also, a big thanks for the nice long note covering many interesting and diverse topics. Watch out, though! Keep it up and you may get a reputation like mine! Funk knows I can write a "book" when I put my mind to it!!! Anyway, before I get into another mini-novel here again, keep Shinin' On, don't get Caught In The Act, and always grok in full- ness ... Bill-- ...who keeps emotionally active by catering to his favorite neurosis. +--------------------------+--------------------------+--- \\ // (42?) -+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | \'o.o'/ / | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| =( )= | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | / U \ | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+------------------+ ------------------------------ From: DaveFest57@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Hey Sarge < Am I the only GFR fan in Indiana? Not by any means. I'm in Clarksville, which is actually an Indiana suburb of Louisville, Ky. and, ironically, quite a stone's throw from South Bend, but after enough stones are thrown there's going to be one, long, straight bypass from the southern border of the state to the northern border. With this new road, GFR can do an Indiana tour, gigging at each major city in or near the middle of the state, from South Bend to Clarksville, and everywhere in between. sounds like a good idea, no? Dave - who thinks Bill P has some pretty funny signoff lines. ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: just to you i just asking you if he actually preached or introdsuced songs: i wanted a clearafacation, and i do think this is geeting off tract, also I am getting like 40 e-mails a day from the list, and i'm trying not to clog the Funk List. It seems like your the only one on the lsit that seem Mark perach from the stage, every else said he was low key, saying after playing funk songs thats where i was at, now hear i am now then paly some Christian songs. Or hears some God Rock, or hears a song about the love from above. My whole point of this is someone said they (DON I guess) made Mark signe a contract agreeing not to perach from the stage. I felt that was crazy, but many people said it was true. If it were me, I would give my word not to preach, and if that was not enough, I would not fhave reformed GFR; thats just the way I am, my word is my bound. You came in in the middle of a convo I was having with others. I'm writting this back to you on the list SO EVERYONE CAN SEE MY VOMIT TO YOU. I guess no one can ask you to clarify a point, or be a little sarcastic with out you losin your mind. My pleasure. Rick ; ) RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: MY VOMIT > > Yes on his hotline he preached but how did he preach from the stage and if it > bothered you why did you go 15 times maybe you were just lucky, i seen him 12 > times and never preached I feel deprived. Or maybe he said this songs about > the love from above, God thats fire and brimstone preaching if I ever heard > it. : ) I asking you if mark actually said from the stage something like you > need to be born again etc., I'm not sending this too the list i think were > gewtting way off tract. Dear Rick, I think that is your name even no name was signed. I don't know if you even read my note. I didn't say it bothered me. I'm a member of this roadkill list and you want to know why did I go to See Mark Farner at least 15X. Is this a serious question? I wasn't getting off track. I was responding to a few people saying Farner never preached at his solo shows. This is wrong. I said earlier that he did it infrequently, but he did it and even apologized for it at one show. I am a God fearing man and I've been an altar boy and a lector at my Church. I know what preaching is and I'm not talking about introducing songs. I think that everyone's 20 favorite albums is "gewtting way off tract" on a GFRR list. I reserve the right to correct some of the inaccurate stuff that shows up here. How did he preach from the stage? Into the microphone and in between songs. Your insinuating that it is impossible to preach from the stage. If thats so, why did you even bother trying to point out that he doesn't preach from the stage? God thats fire and brimstone preaching if I ever heard. What is that wise crack supposed to mean? The tone of your letter is condescending and insulting. I've been educated at one of the top engineering schools in the country and I wouldn't mind if you had the courage let everyone on the list view your vomit to me. Thanks for the note. It was a real pleasure to read. Jim ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: apologises ken,in regard too the voices in the background of closer too home,i actually think they add a off beat touch.then the background stuff done on purpose by brewer near the end of the song is magnificent,sounds like hes yelling;someday!someday!while mark is doing the chorus.sincerly steve ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #96 *******************************