From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #93 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Saturday, 12 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 093 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sue Moore Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:46:45 -0400 Subject: Re: trivia question #2 (free audio tape) Creamx5@aol.com wrote: > sunny brewer is a fox,enuff saidsincerly steven This is one of those "tacky" and sexist no-no statement!!!!! The Internet Etiquette Police ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:11:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps! Dave is right. We don't need to be calling people from other lands names. I am sure that we could come up with a derogatory name for someone from almost any country, including our own U.S.A. I live in Pennsylvania, and would take great offense to being called something like "Johnny Reb" or "Yankee". These terms were a part of our history, and should be left there, just as "Limey" is a part of history. It is 1997 now. I am sure there are more derogatory names for Americans than any other country. Let's not start a name-calling war. We are sure to loose. Most of us are proud of how many people are on this roadkill group. Let's not do anything to offend anyone on the list no matter where they are from, who they are, what religion they are, or what other music they like to listen to. They are on this list because somewhere along the line they like to listen to GFR. Let's respect each other just for that. > >Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever > >did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is any > >good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is a > >Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to > >matching his ugliness. > >Other than that I think they are great. > >Jim > >Jim your soo right and you make me laft; The stones have like 40 albums out > >and 22 good songs. But i do like there version of gimme Shelter-and i like > >the stones; uglyness is part of there charm. > > Friends(?).....I'm from England. Is that a "Limey"? If so,what's wrong with me/ > them? Am I not welcome in this Roadkill thing? I'll unsubscribe if you'd all > rather I did! Also,I'm not the no.1 Stones fan by any means,and don't feel > impelled to defend them coz I'm British,but they have done MUCH good music. I > think everyone's got to respect them a little bit,surely? To say "all the rest > is crap".....doncha mean "I personally don't like them" ??? There is a great > difference in the wording! To write such a statement can only lead to heated > debates between people,and not even on the group we love!!! (i.e: Grand Funk). > As for being ugly,well I can't comment - I'm not into male rock stars.....but > hey,if you are,good luck to you! (Maybe THAT'S why all the guys were rooting > for Mel last week.......!) > > Dave Watson. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:18:31 -0400 Subject: Re: ? Ms. Baker, I couldn't agree more ... but in addition to a spell check, I think we also need a grammar checker. I can't understand how we don't know the difference between "there" and "their", or "here" and "hear". It drives me up the wall trying to read certain messages. Sometimes the messages have great content, but are looking like a fifth grader typed them. Sorry, but she got me started. Tigger2 >C. Baker wrote: > > Don't all you Funskters have spell check out there?????????? ------------------------------ From: JKiessl288@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps!/An Apology Dave, Even tho I wasn't the one who wrote it, I apologize for any "slur" that any Roadkill member may have put out there. Sometimes in the process of passionately expressing one's beliefs, one forgets that we are from all over the world, in our love for GFR music, and that our dislike for someone isn't due to where they are from, the color of their skin, our their religious beliefs. I do not want you to unsubscribe to the Roadkill Crew. Please stay and let us prove that we are a better lot than this one instance shows. Funkin' in N.Y........John ------------------------------ From: JKiessl288@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GFR wavs Gang, you gotta help me!!!! Turntable has been dead for awhile, and all my GFR is on records, except WAAB, Caught in the Act, and Greatest Hits (Collector's Series). If someone out there could upload a complete wav file for me of the following songs, I'd sure appreciate it. Pass it Around - Carry Me Thru - I Fell For your Love .......oh heck, just about anything off of "All the Girls....." or "Born to Die" would be great. Thank you all for being fans, like me, of the GREATEST R&R Band in the world....... GRAND FUNK RAILROAD!!! Funkin' in NY........John ------------------------------ From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DIGEST FORM PLEASE Please put me on DIGEST, the individual mails are jamming the box. Thxs Jayola The Sonics:The All Music Site! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ In Search Of The Lost Chord On The Threshold Of A Dream in the Octave. ------------------------------ From: Mike Adair Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:48:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps! Randy Stowe wrote: > > David Watson wrote: > > > I'm from England. Is that a "Limey"? If so,what's wrong with me/ > > them? Am I not welcome in this Roadkill thing? I'll unsubscribe if you'd all > > rather I did! Also,I'm not the no.1 Stones fan by any means,and don't feel > > impelled to defend them coz I'm British,but they have done MUCH good music. I > > think everyone's got to respect them a little bit,surely? To say "all the rest > > is crap".....doncha mean "I personally don't like them" ??? There is a great > > difference in the wording! To write such a statement can only lead to heated > > debates between people,and not even on the group we love!!! (i.e: Grand Funk). > > Hi David, > Speaking for myself, I hope you don't quit the list. I think some of > our members might not realize that this list is world-wide. In any case, > please don't mistake partisanship for prejudice. Some people get a > little worked up when comparing bands. The Stones got a lot of critical > acclaim, but GFR put out the stronger albums of the two bands. I, like > many Grand Funk fans, am a little put out by the lack of appreciation > the guys get from the so-called music experts. I can't speak for whoever > made those comments, but I believe they were speaking out in defense of > GFR, not against our British brothers and sisters. I hope you remain on > the list, my friend. > > Randy Amen! David, NEVER, EVER, make excuses about what you are. Be proud! I was adopted, and I wish I had a common tie to a race of people (I've claimed GFR fans as a substitute ;-) ). Stick with us on this list. We need you here. ------------------------------ From: HELLOLETSEAT@webtv.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:42:48 -0400 Subject: vh1 hi 1 i loved the way mel lookied ,he had on thod=se yellow platforms n shiny bell bottoms! n don he loofed like he just did a gg at desi arnez nite club....babalooooooo could any one tell me when they are goin to play again??? t thankyou!...DAVID FISHOF ------------------------------ From: "Robert Bodily" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:24:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps!/An Apology - ---------- > From: JKiessl288@aol.com > To: davewat@thecafe.co.uk > Cc: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps!/An Apology > Date: Friday, July 11, 1997 10:59 AM > > Dave, > > Even tho I wasn't the one who wrote it, I apologize for any "slur" that any > Roadkill member may have put out there. Sometimes in the process of > passionately expressing one's beliefs, one forgets that we are from all over > the world, in our love for GFR music, and that our dislike for someone isn't > due to where they are from, the color of their skin, our their religious > beliefs. > > I do not want you to unsubscribe to the Roadkill Crew. Please stay and let us > prove that we are a better lot than this one instance shows. > > Funkin' in N.Y........John I agree totally with John, but let me also add another thing - part of the fun of this list is the good-natured ribbing we sometimes give each other. Let's try to keep in mind that nobody has anything personal against anybody else on the list (as far as I know - if so, please keep it off-line), and if something strikes you the wrong way, you should probably examine it from another angle or assume it was just in jest until proven otherwise. In other words, let's keep the list fun and keep the PC police out! Robert ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:52:42 -0800 Subject: Re: Other Favorite Bands Message is sent with MIME. 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All MDSE is housed in outer plastic sleeves. Grand Funk Railroad Rolling Stone August '71. Keith Richards cover story. Grand Funk big article with pixs '"The Rolling Stone Overview On Shea Stadium!". Totally intact. $60.00 Circus Magazine November '72. Cat stevens cover story. Grand Funk article big 3 page article with great pixs."PHONENIX" GRAND FUNK ZOOMS AWAY FROM ITS PAST! $20.00 Totally intact. We're An American Band/Creepin'. U.S. original Capitol limited edition 'yellow vinyl' 7" with 'black GFR logo' in white sleeve. Mint. $12.00 We're An American Band: Capitol '73 "purple' label LP. BRAND NEW. $20.00 What's Funk: Full Moon first print LP. BRAND NEW & NEVER PLAYED. $20.00 Survival: Capitol '71 first print 'green' label LP. Good condition (slight surface scratches) with photos. $25.00 Survival photos. $12.00 each. All 3 for $30.00 Mark, Don & Mel: Capitol original first print 2 LP set with inner sleeves & 2 posters. MINT. $40.00 The Sonics:The All Music Site! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ In Search Of The Lost Chord On The Threshold Of A Dream in the Octave. ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Grokking GFR (Was: Re: BTD & GSGP TOURS) (fwd) Hi all, Okay, okay. I've had the same question twice in one day and about the third or fourth time this month already. So let me put up my semi-annual grok response which I have already given to a couple of folks, just in case some of you were curious but to shy to ask. Well, first, let me say that it has nothing to do with "our boys" in the band. It's a word that was coined in my most fa- vorite book that I've ever read. For *my* spin on an explana- tion, go to: http://w3.one.net/~wap/grok.html I hope it helps, take care, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who knows that two wrongs never make a right -- but three might. +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------- (42?) --+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | /\_/\ / | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| ( o.o ) | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | > - < | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+------------------+ ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR on VH1 Hi all, On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 Gasnoilguy@aol.com wrote: > RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > > >Saw GFR on VH1, 8 tract flash back (70's covers), played locomotion Live, i > ... > Who was playing that small drum set next to Don? I always thought it was one of the members of Wet Willie. They were the warm-up act on that tour and Mark even says some- thing like "we want to bring out our friends from Wet Willie to help us out" or something like that on the full tape. If I had to guess, I'd say that it was their drummer. Take care, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who can resist anything but temptation. ___ +--------------------------+--------------------------+--- ()__() - (42!)+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | ( oo ) ,-' | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| /^' *'^\ / | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | (/( . )\) | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+--- Q/--\Q -------+ ------------------------------ From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OTHER FAVE BANDS MOODY BLUES/JOHNNY WINTER/BE BOP DELUXE/BILL NELSON/HENDRIX/RORY GALLAGHER/KINKS/B.B. KING/FREDDIE KING/ALBERT KING/MUDDY WATERS/SANTANA amonst many others Jayola The Sonics:The All Music Site! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ In Search Of The Lost Chord On The Threshold Of A Dream in the Octave. ------------------------------ From: HCRRock@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: VH1 Absolutely right Donna... The young lady's name was Donna Hall, the sister of Wet Willie's lead singer Jimmy Hall...Both of them performed on the Born To Die album in 1975....And both were from Macon, Ga where Mark bought alot of horses back during his farming days.... CRASH ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Newspaper Articles Re: No Preaching It just seemed weird to me and contradicted what I read Mark and Don say on an Radio interview transscript. In your fiset e0mail you made it seem like in was contingent on Mark not preaching, not that he was the last to signe a contract. What I read is Don was the last to signe. Know knows-i'll take sunnys word for it. Its no biggie, i'm just glad there back together. ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: A Bad Time To Be In Love > You have jogged my memory on something Donna! I remember reading in > Parade magazine that when Mark was 29 he married a 16 year old girl from > Michigan who supposedly knew nothing of his days on the 'railroad'. I > believe the year was about 1978. > > Now don't jump all over me about starting rumours guys. This is just > what I read and I still have the clipping somewhere in my pile of stuff. > > Can anybody shed any light on this? Was it complete bullshit? Does > anybody know for a fact? > > Funkola > > Yo Funkola...That's real similar to what I remember. I just don't know the details. Mark said that his marrage was on the rocks in 82-83(must be second wife) after GFR broke up again, Around that time he and his wife became born again christians and patched things up. Maybe this is the same wife that was young when they married; I know he has three son's. ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:22:00 -0400 Subject: Terry Watkins -music, is it neutral? Hello friends. What a fine paper on the subject of music neutrality! I = certainly can see your point. Music doesn't appear to neutral at all. =20 As a lover of music, from classical to rock, I felt compelled to = comment. There are some areas where, after reading through quickly, I simply am = not convinced by your argument. Pertaining to the plants: I would also lean away from loud rock music = that I otherwise would thrill to listen to. All drugs are prescribed at different dosages depending upon = both the drug and the individual. The harp music that soothes one may torment another. If a monkey is = smacked in the head everytime it hears a certain harp melody, it will thereafter act like the plants = and lean away. If you asked this monkey whether it felt the music was = good or evil, what do you think it would say? Certain benefitial elements are toxic if administered excessively. = Perhaps plants are not designed by the creator to appreciate certain sounds. This certainly makes sense = since these sounds in question are not what the plants would hear in their natural habitat. Perhaps = classical music is more closely similar to the natural sounds plants are accustomed to. Also, the researches cannot prove that the plants hear anything at all. = They cannot know what a plant is experiencing. Its very possible that there is some other element or = energy emmanating from the music source that is both unmeasureable by scientific means and not = able to penetrate our physiology at all. Because this energy effects plants differently based on its = source (rock vs, classical) as we comprehend it (audibly) does not = prove it is the SOUND that is responsible. We are not plants after all. Rock music(all music for that matter) is something that has made its = way into our systems for eons. It is both a creative outlet and a psyco/spiritual connection. Music is = something we have created for ourselves - it is foriegn to plants - we = can't judge our relationship to it based on their reaction. Some people = feel closer to God listening to certain music than at any other time. = The plants apparently have their minds minds made up about what brings = them closer to God. I'd like to have the same freedom since I know = about me just as well as the plant knows about itself. =20 Also, it annoys me so when people of God use the tool of science to = prove points. I'd guess it runs shivvers down Jesus back. When will the world come to understand that = science can never really know anything with certainty. Science is an = attempt by man to make sense of a world we were placed in without our = concurrence. The miracle that we are, that life is, can not be = explained. Jesus spoke often about the importance of faith. I see no room for science in = faith. Sceince can only make matters worse by introducing error and false hopes. Look what a mess we have = made of the world. I need to cut this short at this point. I'd like to find the time to = comment further and read the entire text at some point. Thanks for your attention. Leo Bartoli ------------------------------ From: LMcdan1313@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: A Bad Time To Be In Love Mark never did divorce but he and his wife were separated for a while which also leads to an amazing story. They both became born-again Christians on the same day in churches just a few miles from each other and soon reconciled. He tells this story in a newspaper interview. Larry ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 9:32:20 -0800 Subject: [none] >> I hear you man....... And I agree that Fee-nix had some good music. It >> wasn't what I wanted from GFR though. And I think Frost was a little to >> prominent in each song. It was like the "Craig Frost Band" was using GFR >> as background music. I suppose I was spoiled after E.P. Funk and thought >> they were gonna do more of that eventually. >>=20 >> Funkola > >Hey, > >Funkola, > >I have to agree with you, Craig drowned out the whole album...as I >rememmber. That was years ago, and I may Buy a reprduction of it if it >is done with Craig at a BARE MINIMUM!!! >tom funkster fagan >tom-span@pacbell.net I'm at work so I can't check it myself, but I think Craig wasn't on=20 Phoenix. Didn't Mark play alot of the keyboards on that one? Ignore me if I'm wrong, Deemo ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:31:34 -0400 Subject: You talking to me!!! I too find some of the stuff here less than appealing, but none more than those suggesting those who don't appeal to them should do different,even though I may do same at some point. (What did I just say?) Leo ------------------------------ From: Bugsy41157@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps!/An Apology In a message dated 97-07-11 18:29:00 EDT, you write: >I agree totally with John, but let me also add another thing - part of the >fun >of this list is the good-natured ribbing we sometimes give each other. Let's >try to keep in mind that nobody has anything personal against anybody else on >the list (as far as I know - if so, please keep it off-line), and if >something >strikes you the wrong way, you should probably examine it from another angle >or >assume it was just in jest until proven otherwise. In other words, let's >keep >the list fun and keep the PC police out! > >Robert > > > Well put Robert! Bugsy...Alrighta! ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Just a chuckle closer too home will be gfrs hey jude and yesterday of the muzak noise. ------------------------------ From: Bugsy41157@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ? In a message dated 97-07-11 19:25:25 EDT, you write: >Ms. Baker, > > I couldn't agree more ... but in addition to a spell check, I think we >also need a grammar checker. I can't understand how we don't know the >difference between "there" and "their", or "here" and "hear". It drives >me up the wall trying to read certain messages. Sometimes the messages >have great content, but are looking like a fifth grader typed them. > Sorry, but she got me started. > >Tigger2 Your kidding, right? I could give a crap how it is spelled as long as I get the drift. I'm here to share and enjoy knowledge of GFR with roadkillers. It doesn't matter to me if they went to 5th grade or Harvard. Bugsy...Alrighta! ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:45:15 -0400 Subject: RE: My two cents worth The Stones certainly have blessed my ears. - -----Original Message----- From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net [SMTP:Narqualung@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, July 11, 1997 9:28 AM To: Ljb Subject: Re: My two cents worth Michael A. Sargent wrote: > > Greeting Roadkillers - I've been watching and occasionally posting to > several sites (Funkola, Donna, etc.) since nearly day one and have traded > emails with some of you veterans. Some of you see my postings with my full > name, Mike Sargent or M. Sargent but since I just subscribed last week to > this forum I now see where the action is! From now on my nickname will > merely be SARGE. After receiving nearly 150 emails in the last two days I > feel compelled to join in the fray with my thoughts as a 25 year fan. > > 1. I like Phoenix, it was the first album I bought myself and I worked > backwards in their catalog from there. It's a transitional album but I > find it refreshing. It may have been the precursor to the end of the > original grand funk sound but it brings back great memories for me. Surely > no one would argue that ATGITWB or even Shinin' On is better...... > > 2. I am amazed at the Stones Bashing. Put on Let it Bleed, Stickey > Fingers,or Exile on Main Street and then tell me these albums are no good. > I have absolutely no doubt that if Mark, Don or Mel were posting to this > site they would say you were nuts for saying that about the Stones. I > suspect they are fans. > > 3. My question for the group - How long does it take to get that Beacon > video? I ordered it from the guy in Goldmine three weeks ago. Should I > write this off as a bad investment?? > > 4. Am I the only GFR fan in Indiana? If so I declare myself the head of > the Indiana Chapter of the Grand Funk Fan club! If they come to > Indianapolis I will arrange a meeting of any roadkillers, and I think I > might help get them on the Bob and Tom Show. > > Sorry to be longwinded and hope this does not set off a barrage of responses. > > Sarge Right on about the Stones.....I have listened to them for years and seen them live and they rock.........You are not alone; I know there are at least three of us in Indiana. Yours in Dementia in South Bend ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:08:06 -0400 Subject: RE: ? Speeling (opps) check is nice but lets face it, often not necesary for = meaning to get across. I think some folks who are excecsively = perfectionistick could benifit from risisting the temptashion to use it = Leo - -----Original Message----- From: TIGGER2@PRODIGY.NET [SMTP:TIGGER2@PRODIGY.NET] Sent: Friday, July 11, 1997 7:07 PM To: Ljb Subject: Re: ? Ms. Baker, I couldn't agree more ... but in addition to a spell check, I think we also need a grammar checker. I can't understand how we don't know the difference between "there" and "their", or "here" and "hear". It drives me up the wall trying to read certain messages. Sometimes the messages have great content, but are looking like a fifth grader typed them. Sorry, but she got me started. Tigger2 >C. Baker wrote: >=20 > Don't all you Funskters have spell check out there?????????? ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: No Subject I'm at work so I can't check it myself, but I think Craig wasn't on Phoenix. Didn't Mark play alot of the keyboards on that one? Ignore me if I'm wrong, Deemo Mark played on flight of the Phonix but creaig played on the rest of the album- I Think. But he was not an offical member of the band yet, until WAAB. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:53:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Grokking GFR (Was: Re: BTD & GSGP TOURS) (fwd) William A. Parrette wrote: > > Hi all, > > Okay, okay. I've had the same question twice in one day and > about the third or fourth time this month already. So let me put > up my semi-annual grok response which I have already given to a > couple of folks, just in case some of you were curious but to shy > to ask. > > Well, first, let me say that it has nothing to do with "our > boys" in the band. It's a word that was coined in my most fa- > vorite book that I've ever read. For *my* spin on an explana- > tion, go to: > > http://w3.one.net/~wap/grok.html > > I hope it helps, take care, grok in fullness ... > > Bill-- > ...who knows that two wrongs never make a right -- but three might. > +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------- (42?) --+ > |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | /\_/\ / | > |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| ( o.o ) | > | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | > - < | > +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+------------------+ Bill, Thanks for the clarification!! I can see though how it could apply to frogs' well mabe funkster tom tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: Bill Cook Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:20:42 -0400 Subject: Re: My two cents worth Leo Bartoli wrote: > The Stones certainly have blessed my ears. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net [SMTP:Narqualung@worldnet.att.net] > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 1997 9:28 AM > To: Ljb > Subject: Re: My two cents worth > > Michael A. Sargent wrote: > > > > Greeting Roadkillers - I've been watching and occasionally posting > to > > several sites (Funkola, Donna, etc.) since nearly day one and have > traded > > emails with some of you veterans. Some of you see my postings with > my full > > name, Mike Sargent or M. Sargent but since I just subscribed last > week to > > this forum I now see where the action is! From now on my nickname > will > > merely be SARGE. After receiving nearly 150 emails in the last two > days I > > feel compelled to join in the fray with my thoughts as a 25 year > fan. > > > > 1. I like Phoenix, it was the first album I bought myself and I > worked > > backwards in their catalog from there. It's a transitional album > but I > > find it refreshing. It may have been the precursor to the end of > the > > original grand funk sound but it brings back great memories for me. > Surely > > no one would argue that ATGITWB or even Shinin' On is better...... > > > > 2. I am amazed at the Stones Bashing. Put on Let it Bleed, Stickey > > > Fingers,or Exile on Main Street and then tell me these albums are no > good. > > I have absolutely no doubt that if Mark, Don or Mel were posting to > this > > site they would say you were nuts for saying that about the Stones. > I > > suspect they are fans. > > > > 3. My question for the group - How long does it take to get that > Beacon > > video? I ordered it from the guy in Goldmine three weeks ago. > Should I > > write this off as a bad investment?? > > > > 4. Am I the only GFR fan in Indiana? If so I declare myself the > head of > > the Indiana Chapter of the Grand Funk Fan club! If they come to > > Indianapolis I will arrange a meeting of any roadkillers, and I > think I > > might help get them on the Bob and Tom Show. > > > > Sorry to be longwinded and hope this does not set off a barrage of > responses. > > > > Sarge > > Right on about the Stones.....I have listened to them for years and > seen > them live and they rock.........You are not alone; I know there are at > > least three of us in Indiana. > > Yours in Dementia in South Bend Is Dementia close to Mishawaka???? Bill ND '76 ------------------------------ From: YSYA1@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fwd: Parker Fly - --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Parker Fly Date: 97-07-11 09:20:40 EDT From: YSYA1 To: grandfunk@roadkill.com I have the good fortune to have just acquired the new guitar that Mark Farner is using. My very generous girlfriend surprised me on my 35th birthday with a Parker Fly Deluxe. I won't bore the non-musician Grand Funk contributors with the details of this amazing instrument. But it is one of the most interesting instruments I have ever played. It also has some very cool electronics. {ie: a piezo bridge pick-up.Perfect for the acoustic intro to I'm your captain} If any of the guitarists out there have any questions, feel free to ask. ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: No Subject why did theyre sound change after terry knight was fired,e-pluribus and phoenix;big difference in sound.steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Donna so did i,in 74 ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 01:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: vh1 in my humble opinion;loco motion isnt that great live.take the original 45 rpm of the song and crank it way up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 01:30:15 -0400 Subject: Digest Form Please Put me on digest as well ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 01:42:51 -0400 Subject: re: sound change I always figured the main reason their sound changed after EPluribus was that, like what seems to happen to almost every band except AC/DC, they were so rich by that time, they didn't have that young, rebellious attitude anymore and they mellowed some. I think GunsNRoses set the record for it though, after one album. Someone in RS mag said it best I think, "millionaires make lousy song writers" ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 03:55:32 -0700 Subject: Re: sound change Mike & Lorrie wrote: > > I always figured the main reason their sound changed after EPluribus was > that, like what seems to happen to almost every band except AC/DC, they > were so rich by that time, they didn't have that young, rebellious attitude > anymore and they mellowed some. I think GunsNRoses set the record for it > though, after one album. Someone in RS mag said it best I think, > "millionaires make lousy song writers" Dear Mike & Lorrie, I think that Don Brewer was quoted recently saying that GFRR didn't have a pot to piss in in 1972 after Terry the clown stole everything he could. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 01:36:34 -0500 Subject: Re: GFR on VH1 On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:57:22 -0400 (EDT) "William A. Parrette" writes: >Hi all, > > On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 Gasnoilguy@aol.com wrote: > >> RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: >> >> >Saw GFR on VH1, 8 tract flash back (70's covers), played locomotion >Live, i >> ... >> Who was playing that small drum set next to Don? > > I always thought it was one of the members of Wet Willie. > They were the warm-up act on that tour and Mark even says some- > thing like "we want to bring out our friends from Wet Willie to > help us out" or something like that on the full tape. If I had > to guess, I'd say that it was their drummer. > > Take care, grok in fullness ... > >Bill-- > ...who can resist anything but temptation. > >___ >+--------------------------+--------------------------+--- ()__() - >(42!)+ >|William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | ( oo ) >,-' | >|wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| /^' *'^\ / > | >| *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | (/( . )\) > | >+------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+--- Q/--\Q >-------+ > >Actually that is the lead singer from Wet Willie. He also played the Sax on "Talk to the People" on the Born to Die album. His name is on the tip of my tongue. They had a hit single called Keep on Smiling. ------------------------------ From: Tony Cawthorne Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 07:47:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... James I Maijala wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:52:08 -0400 einar@rfci.net writes: > >Hey all, > > > >It's good to see all of the new faces and the people participating on > >the mailing list. What happened to all of the old timers though? Are > >we > >just lurkers by nature? > > > >With all of the interest that seems to be generated by people giving > >their favorite songs for this or that I was wondering something. Does > >anybody have an opinion on what they think is Mark's best LP vocally? > >I'm sitting here listening to GSGP on my PC and it just gives me > >goosebumps! I can't imagine him singing much better though the vocals > >on > >his Christian work is also excellent. The guy just kept getting better > >with each release it seems after they went mainstream. 'Born To Die' > >is > >also a kick-ass LP vocally. Anybody know why they never play 'Take Me' > >in concert? What a great concert song this is and I've never heard of > >them playing it live, though I'm sure they probably did when the album > >was released. Any of you guys see them in concert in those days? I > >would > >be interested in knowing what they were playing back at that time on > >stage. (is this info on your site Bill?) > > > > > >Funkola > > > > > Hi Jeff, > > You know, you just sparked something. Did they actually tour after the > Born to Die and GSGP albums? I don't believe I have ever heard anyone > comment on a tour during that time. > > Anyone have an idea?? > > Jim Hi Gang! I don't know if they toured after the BTD album or GSGP but I think both albums are exellent. I especially like "Take Me" "Born to Die" , "Dues", "Crossfire" and "Pass it Around!" not neccesarily in that order. The old stuff will always be special to me but these later albums were great in their own right. As a matter of fact.....who has a copy of GSGP out there?? My turntable is no longer functional sure would like a tape of GSGP maybe even with BTD on the flipside??....Keep on FUNKENGRUVEN!! Peace! T.C. ------------------------------ From: Tony Cawthorne Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 07:49:58 -0400 Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home James I Maijala wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Gasnoilguy@aol.com writes: > >michaeld@ww-interlink.net (Mike & Lorrie) wrote: > > > >>Another great thing about funk is that whenever they covered another > >>artists' song, they changed it and did it better (Feelin' Alright, > >Gimme > >>Shelter - which sucked by the stones . . > > > >What!?! You gotta be kiddin' ! Gimme Shelter by the Stones is one of > >the > >best songs of all times. GFR's version doesn't even come close. > >(Sorry gang > >- but you know it's true.) > > > > Gas N Oil Guy > > > > Dear Gas N Oil Guy, > > Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever > did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is any > good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is a > Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to > matching his ugliness. > > Other than that I think they are great. > > Jim > > PS> now let me have it!! Never in history even on the best days the Stones ever had (and I am a Stones fan) could they do "Gimme Shelter" even close to the standard set when Funk did it!! Peace all! T.C. ------------------------------ From: Tony Cawthorne Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 07:57:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Questions James I Maijala wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:57:13 -0400 (EDT) GEODOG8809@aol.com writes: > >Brothers and Sisters: > > > >Questions of interest to me: > > > >1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don Brewer > >was > >quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best effort." > >Any > >thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. > > > I personally think this is their best album. It had the least outside > influence of any LP they did. > > >2) Being that it has been 26 years since GF split with Terry Knight, > >has the > >band mellowed relative to their feelings about Knight and his place in > >the > >band's success? > > That depends on who you talk to. Most of the roadkill people hate > Knight. Not too many people have the guts to ask the boys what they > think. > > > >3) I've read very little about Jimmy Ienner the producer of > >ATGITWB,CITA, and > >BTD. > >What did the band think about working with him? Born to Die certainly > >has > >stood the test of time and is considered by many to be their best > >album post > >WAAB. > > > >Craig > > > I did not like Born to Die. I thought Godd Singin', Good Playin' was > much better. The BTD was to "down" for me. > > My 3cents > > Jim I rank the Phoenix album right up there with Survival...love em both! Peace, T.C. ------------------------------ From: Tony Cawthorne Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 07:59:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Outside Lookin' In from the Cat Cave James I Maijala wrote: > > Mick Baby, > > So . . you want to touch my stick, eh? Oh . . you mean the drum > stick. Maybe if you are rreeeaaalll goood I'll let you touch it. Phil > touched it. In fact he examined it rather closely . . hey . . wait a > minute . . I THINK HE SWITCHED STICKS ON ME!! This is all a trick!! > You've got the stick already . AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! . . . . .oh wait . . > .hehe. . .(I've got to lay off the steroids) it was just a really BAD > dream. > > Love ya, > > Jim Hey Jim, Maybe you should just post a picture of the stick!! hahahaha Keep on FUNKENGRUVEN!! T.C. ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #93 *******************************