From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #92 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Friday, 11 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 092 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Various replies I use to call it, it was on the inside of his first frontline Disk. That's how I knew where he was playng. He would have a message then a tour list. I saw him at allot of Bar's. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:16:06 -0700 Subject: Re: vh1 WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > sure wish i had heard about "let it happen!!" tell me more! David Watson wrote: > > Are you guys all > ignoring me on "Let It Happen" from What's Funk?? Is it possible > that GFRR recorded a song that no list member has a stereo copy > of? What the Funk!! Later, guys. > > Hello - I am most interested to hear about this! How do you know about it? > Have you heard a tape of it or something? Dear Greg and Dave, Greg, I'm surprised with your connections that you don't know of this tune. I heard about it from a list member and yes I have heard a snippet of the tune. It is typical GFRR gold. "Let It Happen" was supposedly the unreleased on LP B-side of a single from the What's Funk? album. I can't even find someone to tell me what the A-side was. Does anyone have a GFRR single discography or something that they could reference? Greg, why don't you just call Mark and ask him? I'd love some info on this tune. Thanks. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:18:07 -0700 Subject: 2nd favorite Hey Brothers & Sisters I have been a ponderin my 2nd best band. I can't think of anyone off hand, with the exception of possillby Crosby, Stills Nash & Young. Togeather they have a real sweet sound as well as the lyrics. I also liked the heavy metal of Black Sabbath. I do not like the lyrics, but the bass kicked ass, Ozzy was great with the vocals, it's the sh!t he spewed out of his mouth that turned me off. Look at N.I.B.!!! anyway those and mabe early Zeplin are my other choices, oh and who could dismiss Hendrix!! Also Jethro Tull. I saw Ian Anderson in concert way back when...probally early 70's Jethro Tull was tight! GRAND FUNK RULES!! tom funkster fagan tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:23:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Newspaper Articles Re: No Preaching RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > > But Mark did not preach from the stage durning his christian concerts so if > anyone wanted him to signe this kind of contract they never went to one of > his concerts. So I can only judge from this is someone did not trust Mark. > Have you ever went to maks solo concerts? Somebody tell me if he preched from > stage. Dear Rick, I've seen Mark the Man at least 15X solo and I've heard him preach on stage. He would really let you have it if you called his hotline! Maybe the boys had had enough of Jesus and did ask him to sign a contract. Who knows? We'll have to ask the boys at Funkfest '98. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Rummer Mill Yeah, he kept it low-key, but it did make me ill to hear, "Talkin' bout my Jesus, He's some kind of wonderful. Talkin' bout my savior, he some kind of wonderful." Deemo I could not get used to the christian version of SKOW either; And I'm christian-catholic (former Athist-which is an oxymoron-aognostic is a more legitament postion to defend philosophically-don't e-mail on the list about this statement-e-mail me seperately as to why I say this). The funny thing is the song was sampled from an old gospel song origanally. Alot of the Aferican American song writers came out of the gospel tradition and turned many gospel somes into love songs-and many non aferican american writers followed suit (I took rock and roll history as an elective in college-it was mostly football players and chear leaders-there was a curve I got 63 points past an "A", LOL ; -they ignored GFR in the classs-i'm bitter to this day. LOL-and yes I did graduate, i have a BA in Hisotry and also working on a MA). but I'm with you, I like SKOW as a love song. As a christian I was glad to see Mark playing christian music (but I'm totally happy -out of my mind- thet GFR is back together), because the vast majority of christian music is lame (just my opinion-don't jump on me people). Marks Christian music was pretty good, and he really shined vocally on these albums and his Guitar playing keeps getting better and better; of course if your not christian I can understand you or anyone not liking the lyrics (if you ever get a chance to hear judgement day blues-it kicks A** musically also Airborn Ranger). Actually I think SKOW is one my least favorite GFR's songs anyway, I'd wish they drop it an add, I can name like twenty songs hear. I don't care if it was a number two hit (GFR-bilbord) and a number 1 hit (MF-gospel chart). Lose it and add crossfire, born to die, take me, got this thing on the more, can't be too long, etc., etc., Sorry for all the bad spelling i'm a crummy typist. Keep Grand FUNKING. Rick ; ) Please don't jump on my because I said SKOW is one of my least favorit. I lie the song, i just like so many of there other songs better. ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:25:45 -0700 Subject: Re: BTD & GSGP TOURS Pat wrote: > > The only reason, I think, that they recorded the GSGP is because they had a > contract with Capitol records to do a certain amount of albums and they had > to fulfill that contract. Dear Pat, I think that GSGP was recorded on MCA records. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Island top twenty soo far Hear are the top twenty so Far. 1. In Need. (this one is my life story) 2. Can't Be Too Long. 3. She Got to Move Me. 4. Are You Ready. 6. Ups and Downs. 7. Got This Thing on the Move. 8. I Come Tumblin'. 9. Feelin' Alright. 10. To Get Back In. 11. Aimless Lady. 12. T.N.U.C. 13. Hooked on Love 14. Sin's A Good Man's Brother 15. Take Me 16. Big Buns 17. Good and Evil 18. Are You Ready 19. Ups and Downs 20. Love is Dying Honnarable mention for just couldn't wait. ; ) Then when you are rescued from the Island. 1. Memories. 2. Miss My Baby 3. Bad Time. 4. getting over you. 5. Can't be with you tonight. 6. Still waiting (for Love). 7. Upsetter. 8. Mean Mistreater. 9. Nothing is the same. 10. Rain Keeps Failin'. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:22:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Questions Hi Pat, I agree with you 100% I think that "Phoenix" was one of their best efforts. On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:53:05 -0700 "Pat" writes: >Everyone seems to think that the Phoenix album was one of GFR's worst, >but >it's my favorite, mainly because of the fact that they produced it >themselves. It was done exactly the way they wanted it to be. As a >musician who has written and recorded songs, myself, my own producer >(Mick >Ronson, of David Bowie fame) would completely change a song so that it >was >no longer what I had originally written, or intended, it to mean. >That >doesn't mean it wasn't good, it just wasn't "mine" anymore. > >Pat Cass > > >---------- >> From: einar@rfci.net >> To: grand-funk@roadkill.com >> Subject: Re: Questions >> Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 9:17 AM >> >> GEODOG8809@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > Brothers and Sisters: >> > >> > Questions of interest to me: >> > >> > 1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don >Brewer >was >> > quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best >effort." >Any >> > thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. >> >> Well, I agree with Don on this one. And even though this will make >me >> even more unpopular, I would add 'Survival' to the list. Both of >these >> LP's are to mellow for Funkola. > ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:20:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Gimme Shelter On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Gasnoilguy@aol.com writes: >jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) wrote: > >>Dear Gas N Oil Guy, > >>Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones >ever >>did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is >any >>good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is >a >>Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to >>matching his ugliness. > >>Other than that I think they are great. > >>Jim > >>PS> now let me have it!! > > >Alright, here goes: I only like the Stones up until "Goat Head's >Soup," and >what you say may be true, but: > >Gimme Shelter by the Stones still is better than GFR's version. I >didn't see >anything in your letter disagreeing with that. So, you wrongly think >I'm a >Stones fanatic. Believe me, I'm not. And, believe it or not, even >though >I'm from Boston, I think Aerosmith was only good up until "Rocks." I >don't >like their new stuff. > >Bottom Line: Grand Funk is my favorite band, but I don't have to >worship >them and lose my credibility by "bowing to the conformity gods." >(Didn't >someone say something like that once?) > >Sorry Jim, you asked for it. I don't even know if you agree or >disagree >with me. Anyway, maybe we can talk about over a (home)brew at Funk >Fest '98, >or hopefully, at an East Coast show. > > Gas N Oil Guy > Alright!! I agree with you on Areosmith. But I never liked the Stones. Nope, never, never , never. Even My son sitting next ot me said "You mean the Roling Stones? . . Yuch!" The early Aerosmith stuff is great and I really like the "Get Your Wings" LP. Fire Away!!!! Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:04:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps! On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:00:12 +0100 David Watson writes: >>Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones >ever >>did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is >any >>good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is >a >>Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to >>matching his ugliness. >>Other than that I think they are great. >>Jim >>Jim your soo right and you make me laft; The stones have like 40 >albums out >>and 22 good songs. But i do like there version of gimme Shelter-and i >like >>the stones; uglyness is part of there charm. > >Friends(?).....I'm from England. Is that a "Limey"? If so,what's wrong >with me/ >them? Am I not welcome in this Roadkill thing? I'll unsubscribe if >you'd all >rather I did! Also,I'm not the no.1 Stones fan by any means,and don't >feel >impelled to defend them coz I'm British,but they have done MUCH good >music. I >think everyone's got to respect them a little bit,surely? To say "all >the rest >is crap".....doncha mean "I personally don't like them" ??? There is a >great >difference in the wording! To write such a statement can only lead to >heated >debates between people,and not even on the group we love!!! (i.e: >Grand Funk). >As for being ugly,well I can't comment - I'm not into male rock >stars.....but >hey,if you are,good luck to you! (Maybe THAT'S why all the guys were >rooting >for Mel last week.......!) > >Dave Watson. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- > >Dave, Actually only the ugly people from the British Isles are called "Limey". As for the other stuff about "crap", well, this is the United States of America and one of our most cherished freedoms is that if we think something is "crap" we can say so. So, Most of the Stones' stuff is "crap". Now onto the debate subject. That is what this is all about. Debate between friends on a variety of topics. However, Mick Jagger needs no debate. It is a FACT that he looks like a prune. And I have never heard anyone describe a prune as beautiful. Prunes are at best wrinkled as in "wrinkled like a prune". So since he is not beautiful, he must be ugly. Now the only question is how ugly is he?(Johnny Carson please respond). Your friend from the colonies, Jim ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 03:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: vh1 where can i get a video of a complete grand funk concert?sincerly steven ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 03:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: trivia question #2 (free audio tape) sunny brewer is a fox,enuff saidsincerly steven ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 03:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: On the Light side what song did gfr do called larry? ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 03:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Rummer Mill what are the names of all farners solo albums.steve ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:03:44 -0700 Subject: Re: My two cents worth Michael A. Sargent wrote: > > Greeting Roadkillers - I've been watching and occasionally posting to > several sites (Funkola, Donna, etc.) since nearly day one and have traded > emails with some of you veterans. Some of you see my postings with my full > name, Mike Sargent or M. Sargent but since I just subscribed last week to > this forum I now see where the action is! From now on my nickname will > merely be SARGE. After receiving nearly 150 emails in the last two days I > feel compelled to join in the fray with my thoughts as a 25 year fan. > > 1. I like Phoenix, it was the first album I bought myself and I worked > backwards in their catalog from there. It's a transitional album but I > find it refreshing. It may have been the precursor to the end of the > original grand funk sound but it brings back great memories for me. Surely > no one would argue that ATGITWB or even Shinin' On is better...... > > 2. I am amazed at the Stones Bashing. Put on Let it Bleed, Stickey > Fingers,or Exile on Main Street and then tell me these albums are no good. > I have absolutely no doubt that if Mark, Don or Mel were posting to this > site they would say you were nuts for saying that about the Stones. I > suspect they are fans. > > 3. My question for the group - How long does it take to get that Beacon > video? I ordered it from the guy in Goldmine three weeks ago. Should I > write this off as a bad investment?? > > 4. Am I the only GFR fan in Indiana? If so I declare myself the head of > the Indiana Chapter of the Grand Funk Fan club! If they come to > Indianapolis I will arrange a meeting of any roadkillers, and I think I > might help get them on the Bob and Tom Show. > > Sorry to be longwinded and hope this does not set off a barrage of responses. > > Sarge Right on about the Stones.....I have listened to them for years and seen them live and they rock.........You are not alone; I know there are at least three of us in Indiana. Yours in Dementia in South Bend ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:05:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps! David Watson wrote: > > >Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever > >did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is any > >good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is a > >Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to > >matching his ugliness. > >Other than that I think they are great. > >Jim > >Jim your soo right and you make me laft; The stones have like 40 albums out > >and 22 good songs. But i do like there version of gimme Shelter-and i like > >the stones; uglyness is part of there charm. > > Friends(?).....I'm from England. Is that a "Limey"? If so,what's wrong with me/ > them? Am I not welcome in this Roadkill thing? I'll unsubscribe if you'd all > rather I did! Also,I'm not the no.1 Stones fan by any means,and don't feel > impelled to defend them coz I'm British,but they have done MUCH good music. I > think everyone's got to respect them a little bit,surely? To say "all the rest > is crap".....doncha mean "I personally don't like them" ??? There is a great > difference in the wording! To write such a statement can only lead to heated > debates between people,and not even on the group we love!!! (i.e: Grand Funk). > As for being ugly,well I can't comment - I'm not into male rock stars.....but > hey,if you are,good luck to you! (Maybe THAT'S why all the guys were rooting > for Mel last week.......!) > > Dave Watson. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- Right on, David........Give my love to M.O.E................Hope to make it back to your lovely country someday soon. ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Second class citizen In a message dated 97-07-10 01:56:58 EDT, Narqualung@worldnet.att.net writes: << Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Alvin Lee, Leslie West, Carlos Santana, Steve Miller, Eddie Van Halen and a whole host of others, hell, let's even include Segovia, Les Paul and Robert Johnson, had as many or more original licks as Mark Farner ever thought of and can (or could if alive) play as good or better. No comparison, just fact. >> I never said he was greater than all these guitarist.....but his own unique originality made him as great! << If they ascend to heaven during the encore of their Sarajevo gig, though, I might become a Believer. Until then, I will leave the question of the Holy Trinity to the Jesus Freaks and their Anglican brethren. >> You hit a nerve with ME.... you don't need to get a life...you need LIFE; that's the fact!................................ JOE ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:54:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Steady on a bit chaps! James I Maijala wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:00:12 +0100 David Watson > writes: > >>Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones > >ever > >>did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is > >any > >>good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is > >a > >>Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to > >>matching his ugliness. > >>Other than that I think they are great. > >>Jim > >>Jim your soo right and you make me laft; The stones have like 40 > >albums out > >>and 22 good songs. But i do like there version of gimme Shelter-and i > >like > >>the stones; uglyness is part of there charm. > > > >Friends(?).....I'm from England. Is that a "Limey"? If so,what's wrong > >with me/ > >them? Am I not welcome in this Roadkill thing? I'll unsubscribe if > >you'd all > >rather I did! Also,I'm not the no.1 Stones fan by any means,and don't > >feel > >impelled to defend them coz I'm British,but they have done MUCH good > >music. I > >think everyone's got to respect them a little bit,surely? To say "all > >the rest > >is crap".....doncha mean "I personally don't like them" ??? There is a > >great > >difference in the wording! To write such a statement can only lead to > >heated > >debates between people,and not even on the group we love!!! (i.e: > >Grand Funk). > >As for being ugly,well I can't comment - I'm not into male rock > >stars.....but > >hey,if you are,good luck to you! (Maybe THAT'S why all the guys were > >rooting > >for Mel last week.......!) > > > >Dave Watson. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---- > > > >Dave, > > Actually only the ugly people from the British Isles are called "Limey". > As for the other stuff about "crap", well, this is the United States of > America and one of our most cherished freedoms is that if we think > something is "crap" we can say so. So, Most of the Stones' stuff is > "crap". Now onto the debate subject. That is what this is all about. > Debate between friends on a variety of topics. However, Mick Jagger > needs no debate. It is a FACT that he looks like a prune. And I have > never heard anyone describe a prune as beautiful. Prunes are at best > wrinkled as in "wrinkled like a prune". So since he is not beautiful, he > must be ugly. Now the only question is how ugly is he?(Johnny Carson > please respond). > > Your friend from the colonies, > > Jim The Stones are one of the best bands in rock history, particularly when they stick to their blues roots. I have a video which includes Keith Richards jamming with Eric Clapton and John Lee Hooker; three of the greatest guitar players who ever lived. Very few rockers have ever been as innovative as Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Brian Jones (R.I.P). Their music has ranged from mediocre to great and, last but not least, they have NOT rested on their laurels. Rather, they have consistently experimented and grown as a band, instead of stagnating like some others we know. And, of course, they have regularly recorded NEW music! "Limey" is derived from the fact that the British Navy provided their sailors with limes in the 1700's after they discovered that it helped prevent scurvy. "Limey" was a derogatory term and is equivalent to calling someone a "hunky", "pollack", "mick", etc. Are we really into name calling? I have a great love for Merry Olde England, and have been there three times (although I would feel much better about them if they would get the hell out of Northern Ireland..........the Empire is dwindling, Dave!) As to ugly.....ugly is as ugly does......Does it matter that Mick, or anyone else, is "ugly"? If the members of GFR were "ugly" would you hold it against them? What is ugly anyway? Does it matter if people are "ugly"? Do you have children? What would you do (or say) if you had a disfigured, overweight daughter and people put her down? I personally like Mick Jagger's and Mark Farner's singing and I don't care whether it comes from a blow hole on the top of their heads or from an orifice lower down. It's the music that counts......hhmmmmm......I wonder.......can blind people enjoy music if the players are ugly? And do they REALLY make underwear for the deaf? Aerosmith are a great band also, even into the late 90's. So are Pearl Jam, Rusted Root, Neil Young and Crazyhorse, Alice in Chains, Santana, Steppenwolf, the Allman Brothers Band, Ted Nugent, yadda, yadda, yadda. I would wager quite a bit that GFR are into the Stones........... But the real question is this: do Carly Simon, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler AND Julia Roberts have a common ancestor? And why weren't they chosen to play the Joker? You are right about our freedom of speech.....in our country, even Brits have the right to express themselves......unless of course you say something that disagrees with Roadkill............ IT'S ONLY ROCK AND ROLL, DUDES AND DUDETTES!! Yours in Christ and Dementia, a nasty, bastard, Marine, wildebeeste descended from Krauts and Limeys who doesn't worship any human being and believes we should open our minds and expand our consciousness! ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:55:19 -0700 Subject: Re: trivia question#3 (free 8 by 10 of brewer) DOdell4280@aol.com wrote: > > how much hair(in inches) did mark get cut? > > correct anwser will get an 8 by 10 of brewer from spfld ma 75 36? ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:01:25 -0700 Subject: Re: Newspaper Articles Re: No Preaching James Lichtenberg wrote: > > RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > > > > But Mark did not preach from the stage durning his christian concerts so if > > anyone wanted him to signe this kind of contract they never went to one of > > his concerts. So I can only judge from this is someone did not trust Mark. > > Have you ever went to maks solo concerts? Somebody tell me if he preched from > > stage. > > Dear Rick, > I've seen Mark the Man at least 15X solo and I've heard him preach > on stage. He would really let you have it if you called his hotline! > Maybe the boys had had enough of Jesus and did ask him to sign a > contract. Who knows? We'll have to ask the boys at Funkfest '98. Later. > > Regards, > Jim What's wrong witrh preaching, if you're into something? I see a lot of it on this list. ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:05:01 +0200 Subject: Re: 2nd favorite <> Ahum, humm a bit disagreement here. You can't compare the two bands. Zep is an improvisation band never playing any song exactly the same way ever. This makes them a very good live band. Zep never wanted to be compared with GFR. But hey, GFR is still my favourite.... CU, Nico. ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:08:25 +0200 Subject: Re: A Bad Time To Be In Love <> So that's also the reason for that great song "Memories"? CU, Nico. ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:21:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Mike Tyson Ate My Balls HELLONEWMAN@webtv.net wrote: > > http://www.primenet.com/~stello/tyson/index.html I know you are going to catch hell from some on this list, but THANKS for the e-mail. I am still laughing! ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:26:58 -0700 Subject: Re: apologises DOdell4280@aol.com wrote: > > hey man, > If anybody was offended I opologise to you. I started the trivia > to get people talking about the band and maybe learn some stuff you didnt > know. I was giving away prizes to get people interested in playing the game. > the question did come from an interview with don from a cream mag. so lets > get back to the game ive got pictures & recordings Id like to share with you > to help people get talking with there friends & getting involved in making > this reunion a very sucessful on for the boys!!! > > don > cream I lost a lot in the 60s but not all!!!!! rock on What did you lose in the 60's? ------------------------------ From: "C. Baker" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:27:18 -0500 Subject: ? Jim, why are you so concerned with Tylers looks? Just asking, that's all? Speaking from a female point of view, he is hot and....he's got a purty mouth. and..... Don't all you Funskters have spell check out there?????????? ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:53:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Second class citizen > had as many or more original licks as Mark Farner ever thought of and > can (or could if alive) play as good or better. No comparison, just > fact. >> > I never said he was greater than all these guitarist.....but his own unique originality made him as great! As far as ORIGINAL licks go, no way, and I heard him live in 85'....this is only MY opinion. Also, the fact that most of the live ones mentioned or unmentioned above have created new music, while Marker Farner hasn't for some time does have a subconscious impact, I'm sure, on my demented thinking. > You hit a nerve with ME.... Great...it was meant to......... >you don't need to get a life...you need LIFE; > that's the fact!................................ JOE How do you know I don't? Jesus loves me too, by the way. (By the way, I knew from your AOL "name" you weren't into Icarus and Daedalus, and as a matter of fact I think I talked to you when I was on AOL) ------------------------------ From: Bugsy41157@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Mark's guitar In a message dated 97-07-11 03:48:14 EDT, you write: >The chrome guitar is the one that was floating around at the after-show party >in LA. Go to Donna's site and I believe there are a couple of pictures of >some >of us holding the guitar...what a rush!!! > >Phil > > Hey PhilCat, Your killin' me! Thats the one Mark used in '74 when we saw the boys at the Garden! 100 lbs.? Remember when he strummed it behind his head at the end of Gimme Shelter? Bugsy...Alrighta! ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:34:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Can't receive email Well folks, as I warned you yesterday, after my IP address was changed at about 3:00 MST yesterday, I cannot receive email anymore. So I have not received anything since then. So, if anyone has sent me anything directly expecting a response, I never got it. Sorry. I hope I'm not missing too much! If you got this, obviously I can send email out, I just can't receive it yet. Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Nonsense deemo,i agree in general;rare earth,three dog night were am radio bands.gfr,were a real working band.sincerly steven ------------------------------ From: "Motor City" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 9:41:32 PDT Subject: Re: 2nd best I hesitate to say it, because I never hear him mentioned, but: Bob Seger ... In my opinion the best song-writer(lyrics) ever ... Or maybe it's just a Michigan thing ... From "Buick City" with love ... David C ... >I am curious about what other bands do you funksters like 2nd to GFR. GFR >will always be the best to me,I also was a fan of >Humble Pie >The J Geils Band > >Pat Cass ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: trivia question#2 another hint i want too know why is sunny so beautiful?sincerly steven. ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:29:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: A Bad Time To Be In Love On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 einar@rfci.net wrote: > Donna Wightman wrote: > > > > I think I remember Steve and Carol Lisuk telling me that Mark was going > > through a divorce during the recording of ATGITWB. > > You have jogged my memory on something Donna! I remember reading in > Parade magazine that when Mark was 29 he married a 16 year old girl from > Michigan who supposedly knew nothing of his days on the 'railroad'. I > believe the year was about 1978. > > Now don't jump all over me about starting rumours guys. This is just > what I read and I still have the clipping somewhere in my pile of stuff. > > Can anybody shed any light on this? Was it complete bullshit? Does > anybody know for a fact? > > Funkola > > Yo Funkola...That's real similar to what I remember. I just don't know the details. Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:59:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Rummer Mill Creamx5@aol.com wrote: > > what are the names of all farners solo albums.steve To be quite honest with you I don't know! I always was into the GFRR seen, (Terry Knight years) tom funkster fagan tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: David Watson Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:15:57 +0100 Subject: Thanks! Can I just say "thank-you" to all you people who kindly mailed me (privately or thru' the list) to encourage me to stay subscribed. Really appreciated! I'm not a sensitive sop who takes offence at the slightest thing,but for a moment I did wonder if you americans were saying "this is OUR group,OUR list",so my reaction was - don't stay where you're not wanted. Anyway,I've now learnt that americans utilise "freedom of speech" more than us staid Brits,so I'll bear that in mind in future. There seems to be a lot of "personalities" in this group,with varying degrees of extrovert-ness!!! I must admit I sometimes have a job finding out who said what,when mails are made up of original/appended/re- appended text. It's easy to misquote someone! Anwyay,I've made some friendly contacts already so I'm off to reply to their individual mails now. Thanks again. Dave. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Marilyn Miller" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 14:24:04 PDT Subject: Re: other favourite bands... I really dig the poppier side of the 70's stuff: Badfinger, Sparks, 10cc,= Sweet, Slade, The Tubes, Raspberries, The Kinks, Pilot, The Move, ELO = & of course, KISS! Jay Richter - ---------- > I like a lot of different music, including....Frank Zappa, The Beatles, > U2, Sparks, Lou Reed, Humble Pie, Led Zeppelin, Randy Newman, Blue > Oyster Cult and Radiohead. > > Larry Graves > > > Pat wrote: > > > > I am curious about what other bands do you funksters like 2nd to GFR.= GFR > > will always be the best to me,I also was a fan of > > Humble Pie > > The J Geils Band > ------------------------------ From: JMiller744@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:32:28 -0400 Subject: Zep vs Funk Sorry Nico, I've seen zep live, they don't come close to being as good as funk live, in terms of sheer excitement or sound quality. Funk puts on a show! Zep played to themselves. ------------------------------ From: "Robert Bodily" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:48:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Potpourri Man, this list is really active lately! Have we got that many new subscribers or do you people just have that much free time? :-) Anyway, in an attempt to remain an active part of the list (whilst trying to keep afloat of new messages), here's my thoughts on several recent postings. (Let me apologize in advance for the "book" here, but I don't post that frequently, so if you read just a little each day, it'll all word-average out :-) ) Favorite Artists - The following is a list of artists ordered first by the number of CD titles I have of them and then alphabetically. This doesn't take into consideration things like CD availability, number of titles actually released, etc., but it should give you some idea of what I like: Artist Titles Grand Funk Railroad 10 Steely Dan 9 Led Zeppelin 8 Trower, Robin 8 Chicago 7 Beatles, The 6 Genesis 6 Kansas 6 Rush 6 Pink Floyd 5 Allman Brothers Band 4 Dire Straits 4 Hendrix, Jimi 4 Kravitz, Lenny 4 Traffic 4 Van Halen 4 Young, Neil 4 A couple of notes to this list - 1) I'd have more GFR IF THEY EXISTED TO BE HAD! 2) I really like Lenny Kravitz more than his position on the list might indicate, but he's only put out four titles. 3) Chicago - my like for them extends only to about the first 8 or 9 albums (the Terry Kath days). At the risk of branding myself a heretic, let me say that I consider Chicago IV (live at Carnegie Hall) to be my favorite live album ever. The Stones & Gimme Shelter - I don't consider myself a big Stones fan, but I do like a few of their songs. Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers are two great albums (there're probably others, but I just haven't explored them yet). I do like the Stones version of Gimme Shelter and I like GFR's version - they can't really be compared side-by-side because they're so different stylistically. I liken this to the song "Dreams (I'll Never See)" - the first version I heard of it was from Molly Hatchet; they do a really excellent, rockin' version. Later, I heard it by the original artist - the Allman Bros. Their version is much more laid back and bluesy, but I like it just as much - they're almost like two different songs. As for Mick and his looks (and he IS one ugly cuss), I'd rather have Mick (and I mean that in a strictly musical, non-homosexual [not that there's anything wrong with that, as Seinfield would say] sense) than any of the "pretty boys" from the '80s (e.g., Bon Jovi). Phoenix - Just to cast my vote, I like Phoenix quite a bit. I also really like Survival (one of my favorites), and actually everything up through and including Born To Die (with the single exception of Sally), of course, some more than others. I'm still working on GSGP, having recently acquired it & BTD (thanks again MCat!) - I don't dislike it, I'm just having a slower time warming up to it. It's hard for me to rank GFR's albums, because it just depends on the mood I'm in. But that's one of the great things about the band - - they do have a variety of songs and sounds to fit just about any mood. Mark, Christianity, & Who's Best - No matter what your personal beliefs, I think you have to admire Mark for taking a stand for his. It must've have been difficult for him at first because of his history and the industry he's in, but he's never wavered (to my knowledge, anyway). I've seen Mark solo twice back in '82-'86 and he never "preached" from the stage, although he might have made one or two remarks about his beliefs in conjunction with the song being played. Just to give everyone a perspective on where I'm coming from, let me say that I am a Christian myself, although I certainly hope no-one holds me up as an example (then again, the Bible says we're not supposed to look to man anyways, right?). A quick note from the soapbox on this topic: It's my opinion that the personal theological discussions of late should probably be taken privately - this isn't really the forum for it and the topic can be discussed without getting personal. Just my 2 cents worth, I'll step off the soapbox now... As to Who's Best, of course that's a matter of personal opinion and taste, but the question itself doesn't really have any relevance for me. Together the three are GFR; Mark solo was pretty close, but you don't get the whole sound without all the original players. And whether MD&M individually are better or worse than other musicians doesn't really matter either - it's the GFR sound that I like, warts & all, not their technical abilities. Phil Catalano & Styx - Phil, if you like Styx to begin with, you'll love the show. I saw them last year when Kansas opened for them (Kansas was good, but not the same with so many originals missing). I even enjoyed most of their later songs, which I normally don't care for. As for Pat Benetar, personally I'd either show up late or spend a little longer in the beer tent... :-) Mick Catalano wrote: > Robert Bodily -- After that LA Greek show SNAFU, I'm so glad to hear that > you finally got back stage. You probably didn't bring your buddy Ralph > this time, or was it Earl? Hey Mick! It was really great to get backstage in Vegas, and no, my buddy from the LA show (he's the one who's familiar with Ralph & Earl - I personally haven't spoken with them in a while now :-)) didn't make it. He had planned to, but broke his ankle riding a SeaDoo (a personal watercraft like WaveRunners for those unfamiliar with them) the weekend before the show. He was pretty bummed about it, especially afterwards! Still trying to talk my wife into the '98 RKFF; kinda depends on the actual date (late June/early July are especially bad because we always go back "home" to Tulsa then). Tom Fagen wrote: > Hey did you have 4 or 500 messages > when you got back? This roadkill thing has gotten big. Yeah - I had 489 messages, of which all but 4 were from roadkill. Unbelievable! BTW, let me know when you get the pics. Later, Robert ------------------------------ From: TOM Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:31:26 -0400 Subject: Re: no preaching RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > > But Mark did not preach from the stage durning his christian concerts so if > anyone wanted him to signe this kind of contract they never went to one of > his concerts. So I can only judge from this is someone did not trust Mark. > Have you ever went to maks solo concerts? Somebody tell me if he preched from > stage. (not counting some christian festable's when everyone preches from > stage-its billed that way). I saw MarK a bunch of times and he never preched > from stage. He would say hear are some God Rock songs and play them. Then > toward the end of the concert he would say if anyone wanted to talk to him > personaly that he would be in his Bus after the show. My brother and I talked > to him for about 10 min's. He was very nice, not in your face kind of guy. He > traeted us like we were old friends. We mostly talked about the old GFR days. > Go to donna W's site and read mark testamonials and you will read simular > expirences. Somewhere in her archived interactive section. So I just dont > understand why anyone would make Mark signe such a contrast, I guess they did > not trust his word. I think if he did signe such a contract hes a sell out > and i would lose respect for him. Also if i were mark and others would not > take me for my word (which is my bond), i would WALK the FU*K out. > > Rick I also met Mark , in Cleveland at the Agora, he did not preach and said exactly what you said . I got there early to catch him doing the sound check, we talked for a bit me , him ,and his guitar player. Then his stage manager took pictures for me which I brag about to my fellow funk friends !!! formerly rzberf,and grandfunkr, now tjdjr (new server) ------------------------------ From: Sue Moore Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:53:32 -0400 Subject: Re: ? C. Baker wrote: > Jim, why are you so concerned with Tylers looks? Just asking, that's > all? > Speaking from a female point of view, he is hot and....he's got a > purty mouth. > > and..... > Don't all you Funskters have spell check out there?????????? Amen, sister!!!!! You tell 'em!!!! (about the spell check, not Steve Tyler!!!!) ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #92 *******************************