From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #90 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Thursday, 10 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 090 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:06:34 -0500 Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Gasnoilguy@aol.com writes: >michaeld@ww-interlink.net (Mike & Lorrie) wrote: > >>Another great thing about funk is that whenever they covered another >>artists' song, they changed it and did it better (Feelin' Alright, >Gimme >>Shelter - which sucked by the stones . . > >What!?! You gotta be kiddin' ! Gimme Shelter by the Stones is one of >the >best songs of all times. GFR's version doesn't even come close. >(Sorry gang >- but you know it's true.) > > Gas N Oil Guy > Dear Gas N Oil Guy, Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is any good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is a Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to matching his ugliness. Other than that I think they are great. Jim PS> now let me have it!! ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:16:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Just a chuckle On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:55:13 -0400 (EDT) DLGiff@aol.com writes: >Grand Funk muzak??? Aaaaaaaargh!!!! Do they want to put a mustache >on the >Mona Lisa, too? > Oh, ummm . . . I thought the Mona Lisa did have a mustache. ------------------------------ From: Robin Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:37:23 -0700 Subject: Newspaper Articles Re: No Preaching At 02:01 PM 7/9/97 Rick wrote: >Will everyone on this list stop spredding rummers, that can't be proved. >Examples. >1. Mark signing a contract agreeing to not preach from the stage. >This one is pure bulls*it, Mark did not even preach from the stage in his >Christian Concerts. And he played mostly GFR songs mixing in a few new ones... I wasn't spreading rumors but simply remembering what was in the media a few years ago and which I assumed would be common knowledge among the die-hards on this list. I don't know if it's true or not since you certainly can't believe everything you read, but I was reminded of it when reading the post about Sunny saying "over his dead body" or something like that in regard to Mark and Mel praying for Don. I love Mark Farner, religious or not, and I'm surprised my post was interpreted as a slam on Mark. Anyway, here's a couple newspaper articles. JUPITER RESIDENT PUTS GRAND FUNK BACK ON TRACK Palm Beach Post - FRIDAY, April 22, 1994 By: THOM SMITH Will our kids someday refer to the summer of '94 with the same reverence we hold for the summer of '69? Right. But, hey, old rock is coming back. Old bands are oozing from the vinyl grooves to play this summer in a stadium or arena near you . . . for big bucks: Eagles, Steely Dan, Traffic . . . and the latest, from Detroit, by way of Jupiter and the religious revival circuit, Grand Funk Railroad. The band, which gave us such hits as Closer to Home and An American Band, will begin a national reunion tour in June with Mark Farner on guitar, Jupiter resident Don Brewer on drums and Mel Schacher on bass. That's the word from Brewer's significant other (I hate that phrase) Sunny 104.3 FM jock Sunny Quinn. Arrangements weren't easy, in large part because of Farner's religious activity. For several years he has been touring churches and religious gatherings performing the old hits and what he calls ``God rock.'' The Grand Funk reunion wasn't a go until Farner agreed not to preach from the stage. ASK THE GLOBE Boston Globe - FRIDAY, February 10, 1995 Q. Will the Grand Funk Railroad rock group tour again? P.J., Merrimack, N.H. A. The heavy metal band is considering a national reunion tour if negotiations can be completed under which former group guitarist Mark Farner agrees not to preach from the stage. Farner left the group for solo performances and became a born-again Christian, but his fellow Grand Funk members, Don Brewer on drums and Mel Schacher on bass want him to just stick to the music. Grand Funk derailed in 1976, although they regrouped briefly in 1981. In 1973 the group had a No. 1 hit with "We're an American Band." ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:47:29 -0400 Subject: RE: What's wrong with me? Can't Be Too Long is one of my favorites too. There are so many experiences we and the band are missing out on not having these other songs on the tour song list don't you think.......Leo - -----Original Message----- From: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [SMTP:kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 11:31 PM To: Ljb Subject: Re: What's wrong with me? There's lots of hope for you! In fact, Crossfire and Can't ge Too Long are in my top ten , too (at least today's version) .. . and the rest aren't far behind! See Ya! - ----- Ken KEN BLACKLEY email: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, David Watson wrote: > I know I'm from England (unlike 99% of the suscribers it seems),but I also > seem to have a different appreciation of G.F. from anyone else. Whilst I rave > about ALL the albums,and (practically) EVERY track,I can't help feeling I'm a > little bit odd! Thinking of both live albums and the current set list,I can't > help realising NONE of my faves are the ones that they always do (and always > will presumably). Don't get me wrong,I enjoy the "old chestnuts" as much as > anyone,but I made my own personal top 10 and they were (in no particular order > of preference) : Can't be too long/Freedom is for children/I want freedom/I > fell for your love/Crossfire/Release your love/Ain't got nobody/Pass it around/ > Memories/Little Johnnie Hooker (2nd half),narrowly edging out I come tumblin'. > As I said,I like them all but these have that tiny something else in my humble > opinion. Mind you,I even like Monumental Funk,so I guess there's no hope for me! > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:12:24 -0400 Subject: RE: On the Light side Well then, you're a lucky man Stan! Seeing how you enjoying showing off your wonderful bride, would it be possible to post a photo so we can appreciate her beauty as much as you evidently want us too? Leo p.s. I'd recommend getting her OK first, out of respect. - -----Original Message----- From: pacer@jtasc.acom.mil [SMTP:pacer@jtasc.acom.mil] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 5:51 PM To: Ljb Subject: Re: On the Light side At 12:36 7/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > >> If you are stranded on a desert island (with pam lee anderson) and can >> only >> have ten GFR songs (i know youed be busy) what would they be. >> >> Rick > Here's my list: Are You Ready T.N.U.C. Heartbreaker Got This Thing On The Move In Need Paranoid Inside Looking Out Sin's A Good Man's Brother I'm Your Captain/Closer To Home We're An American Band I will pass on Pam Lee Anderson. My wife is more attractive, is larger up top and is all natural. Peace, Stan Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:36:08 -0700 Subject: Re: your mail James I Maijala wrote: > > I won't include the text because it's too long. But, IT"S CALLED A > HYDRA!!!!! And it appears that some people here suffer from hydra-phobia....... ------------------------------ From: EfahsT@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR on VH1 In a message dated 97-07-10 03:54:03 EDT, RCinSinCty@AOL.Com writes: << Saw GFR on VH1, 8 tract flash back (70's covers), played locomotion Live, i have never seen this footage before. >> I've always cringed when I heard GF was on Flashback and I missed it. No one should feel that way about last night's appearance. The song is from their '75, Shinin On tour and the entire concert video has been available for years for about $20. (Careful what you buy, some are poor quality.) When VH1 starts showing their Shea concert, then if we miss it we can all join to weep at the wailing wall. But we all know, the Temple will be rebuilt before that happens. ;-\ ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:45:01 -0700 Subject: Re: your mail Sue Moore wrote: > > Narqualung@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > James I Maijala wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 07:38:07 -0700 Narqualung@worldnet.att.net > > writes: > > > >kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Anglicanism is a form of Protestant Christianity. It actually > > comes > > > >out of > > > >> the Church of England, which was formed after Henry VIII tried to > > > > > >kick the > > > >> Catholic Church. And by practicing, it means that I TRY to go to > > > >church > > > >> most of the > > > >> time, not just Christmas and Easter. Mind you, my record is far > > from > > > >> perfect. And it does not mean I am a "Jesus Freak" > > > >> or anything like that. Really! > > > >> > > > >> See Ya! > > > >> > > > >> Ken > > > >> > > > >> KEN BLACKLEY email: > > > >kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Nancy Barravecchio wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Could be, could be not. Personally. Mark and Mel can worship > > > >Yog-Sototh, > > > >> > >Eater of Souls for all I care. Their religion is their own > > > >business (and I > > > >> > >am a practicing Anglican). I'll be a Grand Funk fan forever no > > > > > >matter > > > >> > >what! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >Ken > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Ken, > > > >> > > > > >> > I agree totally with your comment, it did make me > > giggle > > > >> > though....and just out of naive and sincere curiosity what is a > > > > > >practicing > > > >> > Anglican? > > > >> > In Love and Light, Nancy B. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >So what's wrong with being a Jesus Freak? > > > > > > > > > > Narqualung, my friend, > > > > > > nothing, as long as you don't have two heads. > > > > Personally, I am an agno-athiest, but I admire Jesus Freaks.........I > > have three heads......... > > Gee, I've never seen a Jesus Freak with two heads or an agnp-athiest > (whatever that is?) with three heads. I must have led a very sheltered > life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very sheltered....but if you alter your consciousness you may see them. Use the third eye....... ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:15:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Various replies NH Borger wrote: > Did anybody else ever call his concert date info line? Nico, Yes, I have called that phone # regularly since it's inception. That's how I knew where he was playing. Any info on the A-side of "Let It Happen"? Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: GHA6001@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: vh1 I cannot believe I saw Mel move during the only song on vh-1. The Locomotion is not my favorite GFR tune, but at this time I will take any GFR I can get. I believe this tour during 1974 was the Shinin-On Tour. If not please someone out there let me know. The guitar Mark had looked like the one that is on the album cover of Caught in the Act. It was a "chrome" guitar of what brand I have no idea. Time to go. Keep on Funkin George ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Mark's guitar no mark is done with the chrome guitar and after using peavey exclusively for over ten years he switched to a parker fly (about 4 lbs!) after his surgery in late january. this is a nice axe! g ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... Hi all, On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 einar@rfci.net wrote: > It's good to see all of the new faces and the people participating on > the mailing list. What happened to all of the old timers though? Are we > just lurkers by nature? Hey, Jeff a.k.a. Funkola, it's great to have you back on-list, fellow! Where have you been? We've missed you! Any word on your site coming back up? Yeah! Lot's of new "faces" on the list. We almost got up to 200 subscribers here recently but it's bubbled back down a bit recently. There's been lots of participation since "our boys" have been back in the States. A little bickering here and there but, all-in-all, the chat has been great. Some of the "old timers" are still here -- you just have to be on the look out for them. :-) Donna's over there in the corner with her husband helping her nurse an injured back. PCat is still out there giving us his Words Of Wisdom and passing secret notes off to his brother. EfhasT still pops his head in once in a while. Wherlegreg stops in now and again. Yeah, we're all still here. However, I do wonder where the Turtle went to? Still lots of lurkers though. You're right! :-) > ... 'Born To Die' is > also a kick-ass LP vocally. Anybody know why they never play 'Take Me' > in concert? What a great concert song this is and I've never heard of > them playing it live, though I'm sure they probably did when the album > was released ... Isn't Take Me the single that was released with a picture of a teen-aged boy leaning over a girl reclining on a couch apparently getting ready to "take advantage" of her? Let me ruffle through my lyrics here: Take Me=20 =20 Come and dance with me, take me all the higher. Put your arms around me, make me feel much righter. Come and love with me, we can move real slow to the music. Come make love with me ... =20 Oh ... CHORUS Come on, take me, take me, and make me feel your music. Wanna get in deep when it tastes so sweet, Wanna lose my head tonight. Come on, take me, take me, make me feel your music. Well we ain't gonna stop if we're feelin' hot, Gotta' lose our heads tonight. =20 How many times I tried to make it happen? But you always find a way to say good-night. Tonight we're here alone, your mama's out, there's nobody home, I'm a harmless kinda crazy so it's alright. =20 CHORUS =20 I've seen you give me looks that I've read about in books, And I finally had to make you play your hand. There's a reason that you're here, and I think it's perfectly clear. But it don't take much to make me understand. =20 Come and dance with me, take me all the higher. Put your arms around me, make me feel much righter. Come and love with me, we can move real slow to the music. Come make love with me, come make love, make love with me. =20 Oh ... CHORUS =20 CHORUS (to fade) Yeah, that's the one. I think the lyrics explain why they don't do this one any more. Mark has been quoted as saying there are certain songs that his religious affiliation won't allow him to perform any more and this sounds like it might be one. Great song! I just don't think Mark is up to promoting the subject matter. > ... Any of you guys see them in concert in those days? I would > be interested in knowing what they were playing back at that time on > stage. (is this info on your site Bill?) No, I didn't see them in those days. We'll have to rely on someone else's recollection. :-( I wish I had some of this type of information on my site! Unfortunately, I'm lacking here. Well, again Jeff, welcome back! It's great to see you partic- ipating again. Take care, keep Shinin' On, but don't get Caught In The Act, and, as always, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who, if at first he doesn't succeed, redefines success. +--------------------------+--------------------------+- (42-mew) -------+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | \ /\_/\ | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| ____/ o o \ | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | /~____ =3D=F8=3D= / | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+- (______)__m_m) -+ ------------------------------ From: GEODOG8809@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Questions Brothers and Sisters: Questions of interest to me: 1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don Brewer was quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best effort." Any thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. 2) Being that it has been 26 years since GF split with Terry Knight, has the band mellowed relative to their feelings about Knight and his place in the band's success? 3) I've read very little about Jimmy Ienner the producer of ATGITWB,CITA, and BTD. What did the band think about working with him? Born to Die certainly has stood the test of time and is considered by many to be their best album post WAAB. Craig ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:55:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... James I Maijala wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > You know, you just sparked something. Did they actually tour after the > Born to Die and GSGP albums? I don't believe I have ever heard anyone > comment on a tour during that time. > > Anyone have an idea?? > > Jim PCat tells me that their last tour was after ATGITWB. What a drag that nobody ever got to hear any of the songs from the last two albums live. I would also love to hear 'Can You Do It' live. It sounds like they had a great time recording that one. Funkola ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:17:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Questions GEODOG8809@aol.com wrote: > > Brothers and Sisters: > > Questions of interest to me: > > 1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don Brewer was > quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best effort." Any > thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. Well, I agree with Don on this one. And even though this will make me even more unpopular, I would add 'Survival' to the list. Both of these LP's are to mellow for Funkola. ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:21:33 -0400 Subject: Official site Hey man.......who is putting up this site? They have a different idea of what "soon" means then I have. I mean it's not that hard to get a site going. Any of you got the inside word on what is happening with this thing. Funkola ------------------------------ From: "james p. thomas" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:41:14 +0000 Subject: On Time Just thought I'd let everyone know that I stopped in at the Wherehouse yesterday and they said they will have On Time July 29th for $13.99 A re-issue from Capitol. The guy said it didn't say anything about being remastered. jim ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: On the Light side my top ten would be;get it together/freedom is for childeren/in need/flight of the phoenix/come tumblin/lonliness/limo driver/gimme shelter/black licorice/no where too run too.sincerely steven. ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:35:31 -0400 Subject: re: phoenix I was never crazy about phoenix. I agree with Don, although I love "I Just Gotta Know". ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: trivia question #2 (free audio tape) how did dodell lose brain power ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 9:44:10 -0800 Subject: BTD & GSGP TOURS =20 >You know, you just sparked something. Did they actually tour after >the >Born to Die and GSGP albums? I don't believe I have ever heard >anyone >comment on a tour during that time. > >Anyone have an idea?? > >Jim It would make sense that they did NOT tour on those. They were breaking up= =20 and calling it quits with Born To Die (hence the coffins). The only reason= =20 GSGP was recorded was because they were excited to have Zappa produce an=20 album. That's what I heard anyway, Deemo ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Phoenix, Trying to get away i never understood why pink floyd didnt just give out little barbituate kits at theyre concerts............sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: TNUC not pornographic tigger,it spells cunt,whatso difficult about that? ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Gimme Shelter i agree,the stones version has a sound like a dark drama while funks seems like a city on fire.sincerly steven ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... my question;when was the reunion tour first put together?sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: On the Light side my second alternative top ten list would be;upsetter/mr.pretty boy/mean mistreater/save the land/live version of t.n.u.c/time machine/heartbreaker from first funk live album/comfort me/stuck in the middle/closer too home,live nowdays.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home dear jim,the stones and funk both hold theyre own seperate torches of greatness ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Re: older version of Closer to Home Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is any good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is a Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to matching his ugliness. Other than that I think they are great. Jim PS> now let me have it!! Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is any good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is a Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to matching his ugliness. Other than that I think they are great. Jim PS> now let me have it!! Jim your soo right and you make me laft; The stones have like 40 albums out and 22 good songs. But i do like there version of gimme Shelter-and i like the stones; uglyness is part of there charm. ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Questions > Brothers and Sisters: > > Questions of interest to me: > > 1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don Brewer was > quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best effort." Any > thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. Well, I agree with Don on this one. And even though this will make me even more unpopular, I would add 'Survival' to the list. Both of these LP's are to mellow for Funkola. I think Don was talking about the production instead of about the songs. Theres good songs on there, she's gotta move me, trying to get away, rain keeps fallin, i'e just gotta know, etc., The keyboards drawn out the other instaments and its hard to hear the vocals. I agree survival is mellow in a way but love that album. It's tied for my favorite with closer to home. Rick ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:07:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Outside Lookin' In from the Cat Cave Outside Lookin' In from the Cat Cave Hey everybody (that remembers me) and Hi to all you new folks; it's Mick, or MCat, Phil's bro'. Man, what vollies you guys have been throwing, between the "Who's Best, Who Cares", the"What about Mark" thing and unbelievably: "How did Don lose his virginity?"!!! I'm not even gonna touch it! It's great to see all the conversation though; good or bad it shows that there are real die-hard fans out there who care about this stuff. (Just gotta say one thing: even though the Don-virginity thing was published once, I think it's just a little out-of-line to talk about at this point. Especially after meeting him and Sunny twice, talking with them, seeing how sincere they both are and lastly knowing that Phil is getting rather close with them also. Hey, this is America, talk about whatever you want, but don't forget about "tact". Some subjects should be laid to rest and I think that this is one of them. Tank u beddy much, I go on now...) GSGP Update: We've rehearsed fives times so far and I must say it's really getting better. I know I'm getting more comfortable with the songs. And Bobby's getting a little more relaxed too. The other night we had a "bonus" fourth person sitting in besides Bobby, Smitty and me. Peter came down with his guitar (not bass) this time and also contributed to the vocals and keyboards. We concentrated mostly on SKOW, it's starting to sound really sweet. ILO, Heartbreaker and Footstompin' are all sounding alot better also. I sent out six tapes of our initial session to fellow roadkillers and only heard comments from three of the recipients. The three we did receive were all in the positive, so that's good to know we're on the right track. The other three went to Mike Dolphi, Mick (Pamuska) and Bill (I-don't-have-your-last-name-right-now-but-I-think-you're-from-Georgia). Let me know if you guys received the tapes. In another month or so we'll send out some more tapes, so you guys (roadkill) can here what we're doing. If you would like a copy let me know at : That first tape was pretty raw; this next one should be ALOT better. I think I can speak for the other guys when I say we're psyched to play for you guys at the '98RKFF. Sunny requested a copy also; I don't know if I want M,D & M listening just yet (mind blower!!!! GFR listening to us playing THEIR stuff!!! YO!!!) Nancy B.(Bobby's little lady) just gave me the first draft of the '98RKFF T-shirt art work. I must say she put alot into it both front and back. One thing though, I CAN'T BELIEVE "STANLEY'S" NAME IS ON THE SHIRT!!! (meaning Stanley Meises, our buddy from Newsday who reviewed the Beacon show). I'm not so sure about that Nanc ..... Robert Bodily -- After that LA Greek show SNAFU, I'm so glad to hear that you finally got back stage. You probably didn't bring your buddy Ralph this time, or was it Earl? Jim Maylaiya - I want to touch your rhythm stick. I knew you were in "the sweat zone", figured you'd be showered by Mark's body water, but Brewer's stick? That's great man, good work. Stan Pace - Any pictures of Tia next to your GFR LIVE ALBUM poster? Put me down for one ; -) Tom Denning - I hope you not waiting at your mailbox. The T-shirt is still on its way to my house. You'll get it, hang in there. Do you have an audio tape of your band? Love to hear ya. Bill Parrette - What's this "former musician" talk? You still got it buddy, remember I heard you do Winter and My Soul back in March..... Donna - Thanks for your gracious review of our tape. I just hope you take you own advice and "practice your chops to keep up with those guys..." Learn that lead, baby. Keep me posted on those CA dates; we're into another roadtrip-roadkill-funk party. Steve Lisuk - I can't thank you enough for the EB offer, however that date just isn't gonna work out for us. With a little luck we might get to meet up with you and Carol in CA if GFR schedules some additional dates. Bugsy - Alrighta! Mike Adair - No pix yet!!! When did you send them? There must have been at least 50 other posts that I wanted to comment on since the 4th of July, but I just can't type that fast. Good talking to you..............now, Mark's better than Mel, no, Don's better than Baker, no, Craig wrote all of Keith Emerson's keyboard parts, no, Terry Knight wrote all of Martin Luther King's speeches...........aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh................ Continuance of Exhile, Mick (MCat) ps -- I just LOVE this roadkill ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 Gasnoilguy@aol.com wrote: > michaeld@ww-interlink.net (Mike & Lorrie) wrote: > > >Another great thing about funk is that whenever they covered another > >artists' song, they changed it and did it better (Feelin' Alright, Gimme > >Shelter - which sucked by the stones . . > > What!?! You gotta be kiddin' ! Gimme Shelter by the Stones is one of the > best songs of all times. GFR's version doesn't even come close. (Sorry gang > - but you know it's true.) > > Gas N Oil Guy Yo, GasNOil... Sorry man, I gotta disagree 100%. I think GFRs version blows the Stones away. Of course I will give credit to the Stones for writing it, can't take that away! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:21:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home > > Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever > did their bass player didn't show up. Uh, you forgot one thing...the drummer never showed up either!!! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:25:46 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: GFR on VH1 One correction...it from their '74 Shinin' On tour, not '75. Phil On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 EfahsT@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-10 03:54:03 EDT, RCinSinCty@AOL.Com writes: > > << Saw GFR on VH1, 8 tract flash back (70's covers), played locomotion Live, > i > have never seen this footage before. >> > > I've always cringed when I heard GF was on Flashback and I missed it. No > one should feel that way about last night's appearance. The song is from > their '75, Shinin On tour and the entire concert video has been available for > years for about $20. (Careful what you buy, some are poor quality.) When > VH1 starts showing their Shea concert, then if we miss it we can all join to > weep at the wailing wall. But we all know, the Temple will be rebuilt before > that happens. ;-\ > - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Mark's guitar On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > no mark is done with the chrome guitar and after using peavey exclusively for > over ten years he switched to a parker fly (about 4 lbs!) after his surgery > in late january. > this is a nice axe! > g > The chrome guitar is the one that was floating around at the after-show party in LA. Go to Donna's site and I believe there are a couple of pictures of some of us holding the guitar...what a rush!!! Phil PS The thing wayed about 100 lbs. There's no way Mark could ever use that if he truely went to the Parker Fly because of his back. - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: VH1 1. I was pleasantly surprised with the VH1 clip last night. They actually showed just about the whole song and old Suzanne actually said a few words about the boys and they showed a couple of old pics of them. 2. Did anyone notice that this footage was slightly different from the "Live in CA" video? It was the same show but it seemed like they showed some different camera angles and it sounded different too. And I think they showed a little bit more of Mel too. 3. Thanks to all for the heads up, otherwise I would've missed it! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: David Watson Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:00:12 +0100 Subject: Steady on a bit chaps! >Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones ever >did their bass player didn't show up. The only song they did that is any >good is "Honky Tonk Woman". All the rest is crap. Besides, Mick is a >Limey. And an ugly one at that. Only Steve Tyler comes close to >matching his ugliness. >Other than that I think they are great. >Jim >Jim your soo right and you make me laft; The stones have like 40 albums out >and 22 good songs. But i do like there version of gimme Shelter-and i like >the stones; uglyness is part of there charm. Friends(?).....I'm from England. Is that a "Limey"? If so,what's wrong with me/ them? Am I not welcome in this Roadkill thing? I'll unsubscribe if you'd all rather I did! Also,I'm not the no.1 Stones fan by any means,and don't feel impelled to defend them coz I'm British,but they have done MUCH good music. I think everyone's got to respect them a little bit,surely? To say "all the rest is crap".....doncha mean "I personally don't like them" ??? There is a great difference in the wording! To write such a statement can only lead to heated debates between people,and not even on the group we love!!! (i.e: Grand Funk). As for being ugly,well I can't comment - I'm not into male rock stars.....but hey,if you are,good luck to you! (Maybe THAT'S why all the guys were rooting for Mel last week.......!) Dave Watson. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ------------------------------ From: Sue Moore Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:08:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Newspaper Articles Re: No Preaching Robin wrote: > At 02:01 PM 7/9/97 Rick wrote: > >Will everyone on this list stop spredding rummers, that can't be > proved. > >Examples. > >1. Mark signing a contract agreeing to not preach from the stage. > >This one is pure bulls*it, Mark did not even preach from the stage in > his > >Christian Concerts. And he played mostly GFR songs mixing in a few > new ones... > > I wasn't spreading rumors but simply remembering what was in the media > a few > years ago and which I assumed would be common knowledge among the > die-hards > on this list. I don't know if it's true or not since you certainly > can't > believe everything you read, but I was reminded of it when reading the > post > about Sunny saying "over his dead body" or something like that in > regard to > Mark and Mel praying for Don. I love Mark Farner, religious or not, > and I'm > surprised my post was interpreted as a slam on Mark. Anyway, here's a > > couple newspaper articles. > > JUPITER RESIDENT PUTS GRAND FUNK BACK ON TRACK > Palm Beach Post - FRIDAY, April 22, 1994 > By: THOM SMITH > > Will our kids someday refer to the summer of '94 with the same > reverence we > hold for the summer of '69? Right. But, hey, old rock is coming > back. Old > bands are oozing from the vinyl grooves to play this summer in a > stadium or > arena near you . . . for big bucks: Eagles, Steely Dan, Traffic . . > . and > the latest, from Detroit, by way of Jupiter and the religious > revival > circuit, Grand Funk Railroad. > The band, which gave us such hits as Closer to Home and An > American > Band, will begin a national reunion tour in June with Mark > Farner on > guitar, Jupiter resident Don Brewer on drums and Mel Schacher on bass. > > That's the word from Brewer's significant other (I hate that > phrase) > Sunny 104.3 FM jock Sunny Quinn. > Arrangements weren't easy, in large part because of Farner's > religious > activity. For several years he has been touring churches and > religious > gatherings performing the old hits and what he calls ``God > rock.'' The > Grand Funk reunion wasn't a go until Farner agreed not to preach > from the > stage. > > ASK THE GLOBE > Boston Globe - FRIDAY, February 10, 1995 > > Q. Will the Grand Funk Railroad rock group tour again? > P.J., Merrimack, N.H. > > A. The heavy metal band is considering a national reunion > tour if > negotiations can be completed under which former group guitarist > Mark > Farner agrees not to preach from the stage. Farner left the group for > solo > performances and became a born-again Christian, but his fellow Grand > Funk > members, Don Brewer on drums and Mel Schacher on bass want him to > just > stick to the music. Grand Funk derailed in 1976, although they > regrouped > briefly in 1981. In 1973 the group had a No. 1 hit with "We're an > American > Band." Thanks for sharing these articles with us and let this be a lesson to anyone reading this site not to be so sensitive when someone writes something you do think is "not nice" to say. Some people are only repeating things they have read in the media. This gives us a forum to find out what is true and what is not. As a Christian myself, I would not be surprised if those in the band who were not Christians did want to hear Mark talk about Jesus. So now we all know. Mark is definitely a Christian, Don Brewer is obviously not one and Mel seems to be somewhere in between. Most agree that we love GFR's music regardless of their religion or lack of it. Next subject!!! ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:09:47 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Time Machine Gang, Just have to share this with you. I think I've mentioned before that 3 of my buddys are in a power-trio blues band...DBF...Dog's Best Friend. Well about a month or two ago the guitarist, Paul, said their looking for new material so they're looking for suggestions. So I jumped right on that and said why don't you do Time Machine from Grand Funk! Of course I'm thinking there's no way that that would ever happen. These guys don't even know how to spell GFR! Don't get me wrong, these are great guys and great musicians too but they just don't know Grand Funk. Although when I was playing with them we actually did American Band because of me, of course. Paul is a total guitar homo...you know, Hendrix, SRV, Clapton, etc... So I figured he's gonna listen to this stuff and tell me how bad it is. But I went ahead and made him a tape of Time Machine and also gave him the lyrics. Well he gets back to me like the next day or so and he LOVES the tune! He says he's gonna learn it! Then he comes back to me within the next week and says he learned it and he's gonna bring it to the boys and see if they want to do it. Well over the next month or so they didn't have much practice time and this and that so he didn't really get a chance to spring it on them. And then finally, they had a real practice and he brought it up. I guess they played it like twice or something. So last week I'm out watching these guys at a real gig and it's like a 1/4 to two in the marning and they're trying to figure out what song to play last. So I yell out Time Machine! And Paul says OK, lets do Time Machine from Grand Funk, this one's for Phil. So they played it and Paul did a very good job! It was rushed because of the drummer not knowing it but other than that it was good. Especially for never really practicing it as a band. So, hopefully this will turn out to be one of their regulars? We'll see. What a great tune! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Sue Moore Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:16:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Mark's guitar WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > no mark is done with the chrome guitar and after using peavey > exclusively for > over ten years he switched to a parker fly (about 4 lbs!) after his > surgery > in late january. > this is a nice axe! > g g I must have missed something. What kind of surgery did Mark have back in January???? SM ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:12:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Outside Lookin' In from the Cat Cave Mick Baby, So . . you want to touch my stick, eh? Oh . . you mean the drum stick. Maybe if you are rreeeaaalll goood I'll let you touch it. Phil touched it. In fact he examined it rather closely . . hey . . wait a minute . . I THINK HE SWITCHED STICKS ON ME!! This is all a trick!! You've got the stick already . AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! . . . . .oh wait . . .hehe. . .(I've got to lay off the steroids) it was just a really BAD dream. Love ya, Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:05:37 -0500 Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:21:35 -0600 (MDT) Phil Catalano writes: >> >> Mick Jagger Sings like a Dead cat. On every recording the stones >ever >> did their bass player didn't show up. > >Uh, you forgot one thing...the drummer never showed up either!!! > >Phil > >--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= > Phil Catalano > phil.catalano@mci.com >--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= > > What drummer . . . oh you mean that really old guy! Did he use brushes? Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:59:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Questions On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:17:08 -0400 einar@rfci.net writes: >GEODOG8809@aol.com wrote: >> >> Brothers and Sisters: >> >> Questions of interest to me: >> >> 1) Recently in an article posted in the LV Review Journal, Don >Brewer was >> quoted as saying that the album Phoenix was not "their best effort." >Any >> thoughts on this? I think it showed great maturity. > >Well, I agree with Don on this one. And even though this will make me >even more unpopular, I would add 'Survival' to the list. Both of these >LP's are to mellow for Funkola. > > WOW!! I liked Phoenix and I hate Survival. It's a good thing we live in the U.S.A. Jim ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #90 *******************************