From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #89 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Thursday, 10 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 089 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 13:51:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Second class citizen In2theSon@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-07-04 13:37:20 EDT, you write: > > Brit & John Montalbano > << I hate to burst your bubble, but Mark, in my opinion, is the least > talented of the three. >> > > I don't usually say stuff like this, where is it written and can be > forever placed into the history books, but......that's CRAP! > Mark Farner came up with licks during his era that no other > guitarist had thought about - including Jimmy Page. (I'm not > comparing the two, only stating the facts) > His voice was unique - with unstrained and clear highs that > made him the envy of every wanna be rock and roller. > His stage presence brought the house down...not once or > twice in a show, but through the whole show (except where he > yielded the spot light to Don Brewer for his singing and solo)! > But it was ALL three that made Grand Funk Railroad GRAND! Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Alvin Lee, Leslie West, Carlos Santana, Steve Miller, Eddie Van Halen and a whole host of others, hell, let's even include Segovia, Les Paul and Robert Johnson, had as many or more original licks as Mark Farner ever thought of and can (or could if alive) play as good or better. No comparison, just fact. I am surprised I haven't heard that Mark Farner walks on water and that Grand Funk Railroad can all play while dancing on the head of a pin (of course....where would they plug in?). If they ascend to heaven during the encore of their Sarajevo gig, though, I might become a Believer. Until then, I will leave the question of the Holy Trinity to the Jesus Freaks and their Anglican brethren. I almost forgot, I came up with a few more trivia questions for everyone. 1. What was the color of the second guitar pick used by Mark Farner during the solo of their third song at the Atlanta concert? 2. How many centimeters long was the neck of Mel's first bass guitar? 3. How long can Mark sustain any note in the key of F? 4. Is in two parts: A. How many foot pounds of force does Don have to exert to make the skin of a tenor drum vibrate for three fifths of a second? B. What was the fastest, in miles per hour, that he was clocked while playing "Foot Stompin' Music"? 5. Who really cares where Don lost his virginity and do you think Sunny Quinn enjoys the discussion? Good luck to all of you out there with Enquiring minds............. Peace and Dementia to all ------------------------------ From: Art Lied Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:01:34 -0700 Subject: Tour Is that July 25th date in Cleveland still on? Have they decided to book anything in August/East Coast??? Paulclevo ------------------------------ From: HELLONEWMAN@webtv.net Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:28:15 -0400 Subject: GFR ON TV TONITE>WED 9TH HELLO! GFR WILL BE ON VH1 @9:30 EDT ON FLASH BACK SHOW TONITE STEVE/NJ ------------------------------ From: Sue Moore Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:39:06 -0400 Subject: Re: your mail Narqualung@worldnet.att.net wrote: > James I Maijala wrote: > > > > On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 07:38:07 -0700 Narqualung@worldnet.att.net > writes: > > >kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > > >> > > >> Anglicanism is a form of Protestant Christianity. It actually > comes > > >out of > > >> the Church of England, which was formed after Henry VIII tried to > > > >kick the > > >> Catholic Church. And by practicing, it means that I TRY to go to > > >church > > >> most of the > > >> time, not just Christmas and Easter. Mind you, my record is far > from > > >> perfect. And it does not mean I am a "Jesus Freak" > > >> or anything like that. Really! > > >> > > >> See Ya! > > >> > > >> Ken > > >> > > >> KEN BLACKLEY email: > > >kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca > > >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Nancy Barravecchio wrote: > > >> > > >> > Could be, could be not. Personally. Mark and Mel can worship > > >Yog-Sototh, > > >> > >Eater of Souls for all I care. Their religion is their own > > >business (and I > > >> > >am a practicing Anglican). I'll be a Grand Funk fan forever no > > > >matter > > >> > >what! > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >Ken > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Ken, > > >> > > > >> > I agree totally with your comment, it did make me > giggle > > >> > though....and just out of naive and sincere curiosity what is a > > > >practicing > > >> > Anglican? > > >> > In Love and Light, Nancy B. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >So what's wrong with being a Jesus Freak? > > > > > > > Narqualung, my friend, > > > > nothing, as long as you don't have two heads. > > Personally, I am an agno-athiest, but I admire Jesus Freaks.........I > have three heads......... Gee, I've never seen a Jesus Freak with two heads or an agnp-athiest (whatever that is?) with three heads. I must have led a very sheltered life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:36:20 -0700 Subject: Re: On the Light side RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > If you are stranded on a desert island (with pam lee anderson) and can > only > have ten GFR songs (i know youed be busy) what would they be. > > Rick Here we go - In order ;-) High Falootin Woman I Just Gotta Know In Need Can You Do It Are You Ready Please Me Ups and Downs Feelin Alright Good Things Walk Like a Man Whew . . . I need a cigarette - and I don't even smoke! - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:13:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Rumor Mill RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > This one is pure bulls*it, Mark did not even preach from the stage in his > Christian Concerts. Dear Rick, Although his preaching in concert(solo) is rare and never overbearing, I have heard him do it. I even heard him apologize at the end of one show if he offended anybody. I think someone said that they read about the contract somewhere. It doesn't sound unreasonable to me. At the York, Pa. GFRR show last summer, Mel was rolling his eyes to me as Mark was changing the lyrics to ILO. Later, bro. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:13:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Rummer Mill =20 >Examples. >1. Mark signing a contract agreeing to not preach from the stage.=20 > >This one is pure bulls*it, Mark did not even preach from the stage in his >Christian Concerts. And he played mostly GFR songs mixing in a few new one= s, >and saying something like haers a song about the love from above, then he >play love from above. Hear is a song list from Mark's 92 tour,=20 > (edited) >some kind of wonderful Yeah, he kept it low-key, but it did make me ill to hear, "Talkin' bout my=20 Jesus, He's some kind of wonderful. Talkin' bout my savior, he some kind o= f=20 wonderful." Deemo ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:13:00 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Nonsense =20 >HOLY COW!!!! I've never heard such in my life. Rare Earth &=20 >Three Dog Night another dimision of Grand Funk - (no disrespect >to your opinion Deemo) - I think Mark, Don, and Mel would have >to take turns talking to "Ralph on the Big White Phone" if they >heard that comparison....I almost found my self dialing Ralph's=20 >number. =20 =20 OK, OK maybe the Three Dog Night comparison is streching it, but just=20 imagine the guys doing "Mama Told Me Not to Come" .... =20 I stand behind the Rare Earth comparison; "Celebrate" and "Hey Big=20 Brother" do sound like Don Brewer songs. =20 =20 Deemo=20 (who, over the long run, would rather be on a desert island with GFR=20 and 10 Baywatch episodes) =20 =20 P.S. Sorry about the friggin' "=3D20"s!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:31:53 -0400 Subject: Re: On the Light side At 12:36 7/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > >> If you are stranded on a desert island (with pam lee anderson) and can >> only >> have ten GFR songs (i know youed be busy) what would they be. >> >> Rick > Here's my list: Are You Ready T.N.U.C. Heartbreaker Got This Thing On The Move In Need Paranoid Inside Looking Out Sin's A Good Man's Brother I'm Your Captain/Closer To Home We're An American Band I will pass on Pam Lee Anderson. My wife is more attractive, is larger up top and is all natural. Peace, Stan Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: NuDamage96@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: trivia question#1 I believe the money raised from Mark's hair went to a drug rehab place called "The Phoenix House" Brother Kelly ------------------------------ From: ken.blackley@agric.gov.ab.ca Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:03:31 -0600 Subject: Answer to Who's Talking On Closer to Home Ken Blackley@AAFRD 07-09-97 03:03 PM Hi Folks! All those questions about the voice in the background of "Closer to Home" really got my curiositty up. So I went to the source . . . I e-mHi Ken! OK, you're lucky, cuz Don just walked in the door and I could ask him your question. He said it IS an engineer on the "Closer To Home" recording. He apparently hit the "talk-back" button on the board during their recording and was talking...and the guys were so pleased with that particular take that they decided to use it anyway. Hope that solves the problems of the world! Thanks for your e-mail! sq See Ya! Ken ------------------------------ From: ruckerm@agcs.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:15:05 -0700 Subject: VH-1 8-trk flashback Hi all, I've seen this before. The Grand Funk segment is a clip of The Locomotion from that '74 video that's available. Not really a lot to it. But hey, you *do* get to see the Captain and Tenille as well, so you'll probably want to tune in... :) - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Rucker AG Communication Systems email: ruckerm@agcs.com Phoenix, Arizona USA phone: (602) 582-7507 http://www.agcs.com - -------------- Expand the power of your network. --------------- ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:52:08 -0400 Subject: Funk vocals and such..... Hey all, It's good to see all of the new faces and the people participating on the mailing list. What happened to all of the old timers though? Are we just lurkers by nature? With all of the interest that seems to be generated by people giving their favorite songs for this or that I was wondering something. Does anybody have an opinion on what they think is Mark's best LP vocally? I'm sitting here listening to GSGP on my PC and it just gives me goosebumps! I can't imagine him singing much better though the vocals on his Christian work is also excellent. The guy just kept getting better with each release it seems after they went mainstream. 'Born To Die' is also a kick-ass LP vocally. Anybody know why they never play 'Take Me' in concert? What a great concert song this is and I've never heard of them playing it live, though I'm sure they probably did when the album was released. Any of you guys see them in concert in those days? I would be interested in knowing what they were playing back at that time on stage. (is this info on your site Bill?) Funkola ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: On the light side Nancy I knew a sharp GFR woman fan would get me: thats why i wrote it like that. I was going to put ...and for your woman antonio bandarios..... not sure if i spelled that right. And you should know I'm simular to Fabio,were both Big Italian's; the only difference is he's Fabio and I'm Flabio. LOL ; ) I'm going to save all responces and report on top ten in a couple of weeks. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: "C. Baker" Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:01:28 -0500 Subject: Mass Confusion Hi, new to this list and am curious about some things. I'm kinda surprised to hear Pamela Anderson is the one you'd wanna be stranded on a desert island with. It would be better to just say "babe of your choice", that way the girls and boys alike could participate in yet another list making venture. I'm surprised you didn't pick someone more original and soulful like the GFR music you would be listening to on that power supplied island. You know, someone whose hair would still be the same color after you were stranded for a couple of months. Personally, speaking as a female, I would pick Gilligan. I wouldn't mind being stranded on his island if ya know what I mean. I like GFR and I don't care how close they stand to each other while they are making beautiful music together, or, if they are the tightest of tight buds off stage. I also thought this was America and we were able to enjoy freedom of speech. So then, why get bummed if someone is talking about Mark too much? How can you tell people what to talk about? Just striking up the conversation and seeing what happens might work better than prefacing it with "I think there has been too much talk about Mark". And why is everyone comparing Mark, Don and Mel to each other? Or GFR to other bands? Unless of course, they were precisely and exactly the same to begin with, and even then it would be hard. It's like they say, you can't compare apples to oranges to bananas. Because of a series of events, unseen forces and timing, Grand Funk and it's members became who and what they are, collectively. I try to give every musician some credit. Except for Robert Sarzo (Rudy Sarzo's little brother). He was the worst guitar player I ever heard/saw, a real poser. Oh well, I had to say it. And the only comment I have to make about religion is, as long as you don't try to "save" me (believe me it's been tried several times), do whatever gets you by in life. Once again, I guess I don't see what that has to do with the music. That's the coolest thing about music. It brings all kinds of people of different races, religions, sexes, beliefs etc... together. I did meet Mark Farner a few years back. I didn't mention religion and neither did he. I felt like he would 've listened to anything I said. He's a good man. Later Funksters! And remember, in the famous words of Spinal Tap "Have a good time, all the time" ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... Hey Funkola, good to see you in action again! 1. I agree with you that GSGP is his best vocally. And yes, BTD also. I remember the first time seeing him since his first solo tour in '78, in about 1985, His voice blew me away. And it kept getting better and better. 2. In case you didn't read my Vegas recap, I asked Mel why they don't play anything from BTD or GSGP. He seemed kind of uneasy with it (don't know why) but he did say "eventually we will". For whatever that's worth? 3. Their last tour was the "All The Girls" tour. They did not tour after BTD or GSGP. So I don't think they ever played any of those tunes live. Now I don't know about the "Lives" tour but like I've said before I don't count that anyway (No Mel). Funkin' Phil PS Folks, I just now got through all of the roadkill messages and it's almost Wednesday evening! Unbelievable! On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 einar@rfci.net wrote: > Hey all, > > It's good to see all of the new faces and the people participating on > the mailing list. What happened to all of the old timers though? Are we > just lurkers by nature? > > With all of the interest that seems to be generated by people giving > their favorite songs for this or that I was wondering something. Does > anybody have an opinion on what they think is Mark's best LP vocally? > I'm sitting here listening to GSGP on my PC and it just gives me > goosebumps! I can't imagine him singing much better though the vocals on > his Christian work is also excellent. The guy just kept getting better > with each release it seems after they went mainstream. 'Born To Die' is > also a kick-ass LP vocally. Anybody know why they never play 'Take Me' > in concert? What a great concert song this is and I've never heard of > them playing it live, though I'm sure they probably did when the album > was released. Any of you guys see them in concert in those days? I would > be interested in knowing what they were playing back at that time on > stage. (is this info on your site Bill?) > > > Funkola > > - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Just a chuckle I asked Sunny what lable was releasing the up comming Live CD, she said Capitol. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Phoenix, Trying to get away Nico wrote: >Hi Steven, Creamx5@aol.com, you wrote: ><phoenix.>> >Yes, you mean the song "Trying to get away". >Great song! I wonder what this song is about. >The lyrics aren't clear to me. Does anybody have a clue? >CU, Nico. Absolutely one of my favorites. You must have ESP. Believe it or not, yesterday as I listened to "Phoenix", I was wondering if Mark wrote "Trying to Get Away" and "Gotta Find Me a Better Day" due to the whole Terry Knight fiasco - What do you think? Gas N Oil Guy ------------------------------ From: NFU2@webtv.net (NFU2) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:35:34 -0400 Subject: sarejevo,bosnia any body goin to theshow in bosnia in sept??? i can use a ride!!!! todd geez,why cant it be on tv??? ------------------------------ From: NFU2@webtv.net (NFU2) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:36:16 -0400 Subject: sarejevo,bosnia any body goin to theshow in bosnia in sept??? i can use a ride!!!! todd geez,why cant it be on tv??? ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home michaeld@ww-interlink.net (Mike & Lorrie) wrote: >Another great thing about funk is that whenever they covered another >artists' song, they changed it and did it better (Feelin' Alright, Gimme >Shelter - which sucked by the stones . . What!?! You gotta be kiddin' ! Gimme Shelter by the Stones is one of the best songs of all times. GFR's version doesn't even come close. (Sorry gang - - but you know it's true.) Gas N Oil Guy ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Odds & Ends Hey GFR Roadkillers, Been off line since the Fourth. Imagine my surprise upon getting back on tonight and finding six billion e-mails! What is happening here? All this bickering. "Mark is the least talented of the trio." What, are you sh!tt!ng me? If you don't worship, "unsubscribe"? What's with some roadkillers, no fireworks over the weekend? Relax, crack a Beer (or your favorite soft drink) and chill out. After the five billionth e-mail, it looks like this idiotic thread is finally disappearing, what with this talk about Mark's hair. Is it really true that it was auctioned for charity? I would have never guessed in a million years. What's the story with the official web site? Is this some cruel joke perpetrated by Terry Knight? By the way, WAP, thanks for your lyrics, they are indispensible. Gas N Oil Guy (tomorrow, hopefully, only two billion e-mails) ------------------------------ From: Pamuska@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: vh1 Hi gang, just got thru watching the boys on VH1. I just have to say, that after putting up with Donny and Marie,Captain and Tennile it was worth it. But did you guys see what Mel and Don had on? Where in the world did Mel get that bright Yellow suit!!>G> and how about that contraption that Don had on!!!! Oh well I grew up during that time and it frightens me to think I dressed like that too!!!! Mick ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:04:49 -0700 Subject: Re:On the lighter side Into the Sun Country Road Comfort Me People let's stop the War Aimless Lady I can Feel Him in the Morning Memories Just gotta Know Creepin Freedom is for Children Patcass ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:15:18 -0400 Subject: vh1 Nice that they at least showed it, but I already have the LA show on video. Oh well! Thanks for the info anyway. Too bad it could not have been something from the In Concert show. Peace...Sam ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:25:25 -0700 Subject: Re: vh1 Pamuska@aol.com wrote: > > Hi gang, just got thru watching the boys on VH1. I just have to say, that > after putting up with Donny and Marie,Captain and Tennile it was worth it. > But did you guys see what Mel and Don had on? Where in the world did Mel get > that bright Yellow suit!!>G> and how about that contraption that Don had > on!!!! Oh well I grew up during that time and it frightens me to think I > dressed like that too!!!! > Mick Mick, Yeah, I liked that too. Was that Frost playing the drums on the right side of the stage? Did he lose his keyboard? GasnOil, I concur about the Stones "Gimme Shelter". It is a giant. I've seen Farner do it solo a couple of times and he was very good! Are you guys all ignoring me on "Let It Happen" from What's Funk?? Is it possible that GFRR recorded a song that no list member has a stereo copy of? What the Funk!! Later, guys. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: "Randy J. Valdez" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: older version of Closer to Home At 08:42 PM 7/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >michaeld@ww-interlink.net (Mike & Lorrie) wrote: > >>Another great thing about funk is that whenever they covered another >>artists' song, they changed it and did it better (Feelin' Alright, Gimme >>Shelter - which sucked by the stones . . > >What!?! You gotta be kiddin' ! Gimme Shelter by the Stones is one of the >best songs of all times. GFR's version doesn't even come close. (Sorry gang >- but you know it's true.) > > Gas N Oil Guy Sorry Gas N Oil Guy, but GFR closed the Del Mar show with Gimme Shelter in a way that the Stones can only dream about playing half as well. Attention: Tom funkster fagan and John Montalbano You guys were there, am I right? Randy Valdez ------------------------------ From: The Halls Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:40:40 -0700 Subject: re-TNUC Better late than never!! TNUC is not a pornographic reference . Only the Beatles would do such a stupid thing. T.N.U.C. is an acronymn for Take No Unnecessary Chances. P.S. Does anyone have any info on how far southeast GFR will tour? ------------------------------ From: kingf@theherald.southam.ca Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:14:55 -0600 Subject: Gimme Shelter >Another great thing about funk is that whenever they covered another >artists' song, they changed it and did it better (Feelin' Alright, Gimme >Shelter - which sucked by the stones . . What!?! You gotta be kiddin' ! Gimme Shelter by the Stones is one of the best songs of all times. GFR's version doesn't even come close. (Sorry gang - - but you know it's true.) Gas N Oil Guy - --- Well, the GFR **studio** version certainly doesn't come close, but I'd put the Caught In The Act version up against the Stones ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Frank King Calgary, Alberta ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:57:12 -0400 Subject: Re: TNUC not pornographic Sorry, but... One night after one of Marks's solo shows, I asked what the abbreviation T.N.U.C. stood for. He looked at my wife, leaned to quietly whisper in a tone that she would not hear, "Spell it backwards." I got it straight from the horse's mouth. Tigger2 The Halls wrote: > > Better late than never!! TNUC is not a pornographic > reference . Only the Beatles would do such a stupid thing. > T.N.U.C. is an acronymn for Take No Unnecessary > Chances. > P.S. Does anyone have any info on how far southeast GFR will tour? ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 20:03:40 -0700 Subject: Gimme Shelter Just about every day you hear "Gimme Shelter" on the local classic rock station - everyday when I hear the intro, I think it's going to be Grand Funk's version and it never is . . . Grand Funk's version totally blows the Stones away, always has and always will. I feel the same way about "Feelin Alright". - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:38:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Answer to Who's Talking On Closer to Home > Hi Folks! > > All those questions about the voice in the background of "Closer to Home" > really got my curiosity up. So I went to the source . . . I e-mailed Sunny. This is her response: Hi Ken! > OK, you're lucky, cuz Don just walked in the door and I could ask him > your question. He said it IS an engineer on the "Closer To Home" > recording. He apparently hit the "talk-back" button on the board during > their recording and was talking...and the guys were so pleased with that > particular take that they decided to use it anyway. > Hope that solves the problems of the world! Thanks for your e-mail! > sq > > See Ya! > > > Ken > > ------------------------------ From: DLGiff@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:48:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Top ten on an island w/Pamela Lee Anderson You're kidding, right? This one is almost too easy: 1. In Need (Grand Funk (Red)) 2. Can't Be Too Long (On Time) 3. She Got to Move Me (Phoenix) 4. Are You Ready (On Time) 5. Get It Together (Closer to Home) 6. Ups and Downs (Ups and Downs) 7. Got This Thing on the Move (Grand Funk (Red)) 8. I Come Tumblin' (E. Pluribus Funk) 9. Feelin' Alright (Survival) 10. To Get Back In (Shinin' On) ------------------------------ From: DLGiff@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Just a chuckle Grand Funk muzak??? Aaaaaaaargh!!!! Do they want to put a mustache on the Mona Lisa, too? ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:51:27 +0200 Subject: Various replies <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: Second class citizen <<3. How long can Mark sustain any note in the key of F?>> Was that the resonance frequency of Mark's good old Messenger guitar on the West amps? If so Mark could sustain that note as long as the Messenger is plugged in and the West amps were powered on...... << 2. How many centimeters long was the neck of Mel's first bass guitar?>> How many inches is that? I thought only Europe uses centimeters.... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Subject: Rummer Mill >>Mark did not even preach from the stage in his Christian Concerts. >> I've seen a few Mark Farner solo live concerts on video. The only time I've heard Mark preach was on his concert info line printed inside his CD's (I was always hoping Mark say "We're heading for Europe...but he never did). His statements were always very interesting and I always agreed with him. Did anybody else ever call his concert date info line? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Subject: Re: Phoenix, Trying to get away <> I don't know. Could very well be. The text of GSGP "Pass it around" is quite similar. Subject: Odds & Ends <> Did I miss something here? CU, Nico. ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:22:36 -0400 Subject: Mark's guitar To all who have seen them recently: Does Mark still use a chrome guitar like he used in the 70's? It was really awesome to see him strutting on-stage with the lights bouncing off that guitar. I've noticed alot of people get to go backstage and meet the band. How do you arrange this? Outside of Michael Jordan, I'd rather meet GFR than anyone. T.N.U.C.: Doesn't it make a great, easily remembered adult site password? ------------------------------ From: LMcdan1313@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: questions I have an extra copy of the GFR red album on CD if anyone is interested I would part with it for 25 dollars. E-mail me if interested, Larry ------------------------------ From: "james p. thomas" Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:38:34 +0000 Subject: re: Older version of Closer To Home Randy, I was at Del Mar too. Gimmee Shelter blew the place away!!! Jim ------------------------------ From: ddevers@viagrafix.com (Doug Devers) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:53:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Gimme Shelter - ---------- > From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> > To: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: Gimme Shelter > Date: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 10:03 PM > > > > Just about every day you hear "Gimme Shelter" on the local classic rock > station - everyday when I hear the intro, I think it's going to be Grand > Funk's version and it never is . . . Grand Funk's version totally blows the > Stones away, always has and always will. > > I feel the same way about "Feelin Alright". Greetings, all! I've been lurking for quite a while, been covered up at work. But I'm really up for the OKC show- I saw Mark solo a few years ago in Bartlesville, OK and it was a GREAT show. He did a lot of Funk tunes, and generally kicked butt! Can't wait to see the whole band. I just became a real funkhead about 6 or 7 years ago, I've always heard ICY/ACTH, SOW, and WAD on the radio, but it wasn't till I bought "E Pluribus Funk" at a used record store-because it had a neat cover, that I really got into GFR. Anyway, "Gimme Shelter" I'll have to give to the stones, but "Feelin' Alright" is only done right by GFR!!! Douglas G. Devers I love children, you just have to know how to cook 'em ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 02:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR on VH1 Saw GFR on VH1, 8 tract flash back (70's covers), played locomotion Live, i have never seen this footage before. Also therea another VH1, 8 tract flash back wth GFR on it 1973, a prmo video of Were an American band, so keep checking your listings for when they show it again. Rick ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 02:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Just a chuckle Grand Funk muzak??? Aaaaaaaargh!!!! Do they want to put a mustache on the Mona Lisa, too? its was bad, but i found myself humming along, God help me. Rick ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 02:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Gimme Shelter I love both the stones and GFR's versions. ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:28:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Rummer Mill RCinSinCty@aol.com wrote: > > Will everyone on this list stop spredding rummers, that can't be proved. > > Examples. > 1. Mark signing a contract agreeing to not preach from the stage. > > This one is pure bulls*it, Mark did not even preach from the stage in his > Christian Concerts. And he played mostly GFR songs mixing in a few new ones, > and saying something like haers a song about the love from above, then he > play love from above. Hear is a song list from Mark's 92 tour, > are you ready > rock N roll soul > footstompin music > airborn ranger > judgement day blues > hooked on love > love from above > Paranoid-full version-kicked ass > writing on the wall > some kind of wonderful > mean mistreater > conflict > come to me > closer to home > isnt it amazing > locomotion. > This is after having three albums out, the earlier tours from 89-91 had even > more Funk. > > 2. Mel and Mark have a riff, because they don't stand by each other. And you > all blame mark. > > What I understand is that mark and Mell live close together and are friend's. > Don living in Fl did not see the other two as much. I don't think they would > of got back together if thay don't get along. I have friends from every > political and religious bent, and we agree to disagree on issues, but it does > not affect are relationship. > > That's enough for now, i'm tired of responding to all the stuff being said > about Mark, His religion is not important to the greatness of GFR's music. > Mark writes songs from his heart, for example Closer to Home, maybe he sould > of wrote about patrying instead. And Inside looking out, TNUC, Loneliness, > Closer to Home, Heartbreaker, WAAB, Shinin On etc., still sound's great in > concert, do they not? I just hope Mark does not read this sh*t > > Rick Right on rick! tom funkster fagan rom-span@pacbell.net p.s. I am enjoying as is my 'girlfriend the tapes you sent me. I especially like the concert in Hawaii! She digs the Christian music, it's toned down a bit for me for the most part but I still like it and any music By Grand Funk, and ya I am partial to Mark Farner(although they are best when it's Mark Don & Mel. Never a better trio! ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 02:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: hall of fame With Nico's help I finally got into the GFR chain that Donna W Started in the rock and roll hall of fame web site. this is what i posted. The Grand Funk Railroad was the Best selling group in the 70's. That is a fact, they sold over 20 million units during the peroid of 1970-79. They also still have one of the ten best selling Live Albums of all time, apporitatly titeled Live Album. Grand Funk pre sold 4 times platuim for the album Survival, a record at the time. Grand funk had 10 plantium and 12 gold albums. Also GFR had many top 40 hits, rock N Roll Soul, were an american band, locomotion, some kind of wonderful, bad time, and shinin on. Grand Funk also influencd many artist that followed. Ted Nugent said grand funk was the only other band that could get up with him. Perter frampton said that he and steve marriot (when in Humble Pie) learned allot from GFR touring as GFR's back up. Eddy Van Healan, alex Van Healan and Michael Anthony all say there are influemced by GFR. Vernon Read said he wanted living color to be like GFR a peoples band. The Red Hot Chili peppers said there song breaking the girl was a tribute to grand Funk. Guns and roses plays Bad Time Live, picks a name with ints. GNR ; Like GFR. And Slash played with GFR at there recent show at the Greek in LA along with alto read and billy preston. I could go on and on. Grand funk railroad meets all the specs to get in the Hall. The only negative thing is the Critics have always hated them. You guy's on the board of the rock and roll hall of fame should put the peoples band into the hall, Its only right and they deserve it. Rick ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:53:05 -0500 Subject: Re: your mail I won't include the text because it's too long. But, IT"S CALLED A HYDRA!!!!! ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:00:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Funk vocals and such..... On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:52:08 -0400 einar@rfci.net writes: >Hey all, > >It's good to see all of the new faces and the people participating on >the mailing list. What happened to all of the old timers though? Are >we >just lurkers by nature? > >With all of the interest that seems to be generated by people giving >their favorite songs for this or that I was wondering something. Does >anybody have an opinion on what they think is Mark's best LP vocally? >I'm sitting here listening to GSGP on my PC and it just gives me >goosebumps! I can't imagine him singing much better though the vocals >on >his Christian work is also excellent. The guy just kept getting better >with each release it seems after they went mainstream. 'Born To Die' >is >also a kick-ass LP vocally. Anybody know why they never play 'Take Me' >in concert? What a great concert song this is and I've never heard of >them playing it live, though I'm sure they probably did when the album >was released. Any of you guys see them in concert in those days? I >would >be interested in knowing what they were playing back at that time on >stage. (is this info on your site Bill?) > > >Funkola > > Hi Jeff, You know, you just sparked something. Did they actually tour after the Born to Die and GSGP albums? I don't believe I have ever heard anyone comment on a tour during that time. Anyone have an idea?? Jim ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #89 *******************************