From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #85 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Sunday, 6 July 1997 Volume 01 : Number 085 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PLEASE READ!!! Re: Who's Best? Who cares! In a message dated 97-07-05 21:07:02 EDT, RCinSinCty@aol.com writes: << yes they agreed with you then tore mark apart. I gues GFR would of been Better off with out mark, maybe they could play better you than me over and over for two hours in concert and some on this list would be happy.>> Hey man, calm down. Throughout this whole discussion, I don't think anyone has "tore" Mark apart. If you've read something that has led you to believe this, please copy and paste the message and post it before getting all pissed off for no reason. Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: old mags ahhhh yes the phoenix album,the great change over for theyre music style. ------------------------------ From: KimMacz@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Power Trio In a message dated 97-07-05 21:31:51 EDT, tom-span@pacbell.net (tom fagan) writes: << They are simply put the best band I have ever had the opportunity to see & hear, and they have had a profound influence on my life. >> I'll agree wholeheartedly to that!!!!!!!!!! They rocked the house down in Las Vegas, like nothing I have seen before...Just MY 2 cents..... Kim ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Second class citizen well,without mark there is no grand funk shine or jive. ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I unsuscribe to many lying trubble making as*holes on hear. In a message dated 97-07-05 18:55:24 EDT, kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes: << What about good and evil, creepin, loneliest rider, walk like a man, > carry me through, Out to get you. I don't beleive any of you who think grand > funk sold out ever listened to these albems you just became idiot's like thew > critics, Bandwagoners, and Grand funk does not need you as fans. >> Ok here's my opinion. First of all, I wouldn't call it "selling-out". I consider it more like improved musicianship. Obviously the songs you mention are not the garage band type sound that everyone seems to enjoy more. Personally, I like the garage sound better myself. Although I do like some of the later hits as well. Take the '69 to '72 era for instance. Most of those songs do not have the same full structured qualities as what you would call "the bubble-gum hits". Quite frankly, a lot of their songs from the garage sound days have changes in them that do not make any sense with the rest of the song. They just seem to jam it out how ever they feel at the time, and there doesn't seem to be any kind of set arrangements. Don't get me wrong, I think it's really cool! But, I think their sound has evolved much more during the '74 and later era. Who knows, maybe if their arrangements were just as creative when they first started, then Bad Time would have been the first song they would have written. Like I said, I wouldn't call it selling out. I just think the band has evolved musically as time went on. Later, Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I unsuscribe to many lying trubble making as*holes on hear. Sorry about that Ken. I copied and pasted the message from your letter and it was sent as if you wrote this. Just wanted to clear that up. Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com It was RCinSinCty@aol.com who wrote... << What about good and evil, creepin, loneliest rider, walk like a man, > carry me through, Out to get you. I don't beleive any of you who think grand > funk sold out ever listened to these albems you just became idiot's like thew > critics, Bandwagoners, and Grand funk does not need you as fans. >> ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: This & That everything about mark is cool!just one thing,are those his good luck tennis shoes?sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 22:11:29 EDT Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Bass6plyr@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 97-07-05 21:07:02 EDT, RCinSinCty@aol.com writes: > ><< yes they agreed with you then tore mark apart. I gues GFR would of >been > Better off with out mark, maybe they could play better you than me >over and > over for two hours in concert and some on this list would be happy.>> > >Hey man, calm down. Throughout this whole discussion, I don't think >anyone >has "tore" Mark apart. If you've read something that has led you to >believe >this, please copy and paste the message and post it before getting all >pissed >off for no reason. > >Paul >Bass6plyr@aol.com > Ahem, They are all great. Mark is a great guitar player, Mel is a great bassist, and Don is a great drummer. How great is great? Great is exactly the same as great. Great cannot be greater that great. Great equals great. Now, I love Grand Funk. I have always loved Grand Funk. I will always love Grand Funk. I will not allow a silly disscussion about songwriting, singing, or playing get in the way of that one fact. However, It was a rather lively disscussion. Totally Funked out, Jim ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Second class citizen i agree with dave.when i first heard funk,dons tapping on the snare,marks loose rhythm twang and strum,mels ballbusting bass,it changed though just like every beatles album did.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I want to subscribe dear midge,theyre addictting. ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I unsuscribe to many lying trubble making as*holes on hear. i hope gfr gets in the rocknroll hall of fame. ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Power Trio from the first studio album too the first time i saw them,it was like a hurricane before my eyes and an intimate studio challenge.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Power Trio kim,your two cents goes a long ways with gfr listeners who love losing theyre inhibithions.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: "Randy J. Valdez" Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Two Additional Ca. Dates Hey Tom, Have you checked out Sunny's site today? (Sat, 7/5). She's got a new update and mentions the possibility of two additional Ca. dates in early Aug. just like she wrote me. I've already mentioned this news to my brother, who also attended the Greek and Del Mar with me, and his response was "sounds like a couple more road trips!". I just hope at least one of the shows is in the So. Ca. area if they do schedule a couple more. Randy ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 20:38:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Power Trio Creamx5@aol.com wrote: > > from the first studio album too the first time i saw them,it was like a > hurricane before my eyes and an intimate studio challenge.sincerly steve Steve, As alot of others say on roadkill "GOOD POINT"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tom Funkster fagan tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 21:34:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Power Trio Creamx5@aol.com wrote: > > kim,your two cents goes a long ways with gfr listeners who love losing theyre > inhibithions.sincerly steve I just call it as I see it, and I thank Kim as well as Steve for being with me in this one. They are in my book SIMPLEY THE BEST TOM FUNKSTER FAGAN --)))) TOMSPAN@PACBELL.NET ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 01:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Two Additional Ca. Dates would be worth it,too see a entirely new metamorphis ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 23:16:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Two Additional Ca. Dates Creamx5@aol.com wrote: > > would be worth it,too see a entirely new metamorphis Would you care to elaborate on this??? tom funkster fagan tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Two Additional Ca. Dates sure ,the more they play the more interesting it will be too see how they change even more with older age,sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: were an american band-oh sorry its post phoenix Paul, I like the early Funk better also, but the Pheonix to GSGP Funk is great also. And I did not call there music BubbleGum some one else did, I was just quoting them. They have a few bubble gum songs like loco motion, but for the most part the Funk songs are hard rock. My point is there are great songs on the post Phoenix Funk albums. And when i'm talking about ripping mark, how about a few people saying there is a riff between Mark and Mel because they do not head bang together on stage. Saying that it was Mark to blame, he ignores Mel on stage. The only riff is in these people's head's. What is this the days of our lifes, this is bullshit. And i'm not ever going into this who's better shit, this is childish; and i did not even replay to this until about the 30 e-mail's on the subject, are we in first grade. What do you think Mel would think if he read all this stuff? I think he would say "if these are our fans were doomed." Rick ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I unsuscribe to many lying trubble making as*holes on hear. To: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, RCinSinCty cc: grand-funk@roadkill.com i hope gfr gets in the rocknroll hall of fame. How GFR fans are to busy chatting about who's the best Mark, Don or Mel to patition the rock and roll hall of fame. All sarcaism aside, I hope they make it to. Go to the rock and roll hall of fame site, Donna W started a chain on there about the Boys, add your support, i tryed but could not navigate the site, I think i need netscape. I'm not very computer literate. Rick ------------------------------ From: "Mike & Lorrie" Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:29:57 -0400 Subject: GFR cd's To those looking for GFR cd's, at Best Buy, you can buy Live Album, E Pluribus, WAAB, Closer To Home, & Shinin' On. Sometimes they even have the jap edition of Survival. The red album is also available at most record stores! Grand Funk, the greatest live band ever! ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 04:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: A short message from Sunny about Roadkill I had written a letter to Sunny Quinn with a few comments and questions the other day, and here is part of the letter that she wrote back to me. It's not much, but I just thought you'd like to read it since she thinks so fondly of all of us. Later, Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com Sunnyq@wzzr.com (Sunny Quinn) writes: << Hi Paul, I gotta tell ya, that Roadkill gang is the best thing goin'! What truly good people...we've been having a lot of fun at these shows! Whish you could have joined us, too! >> ------------------------------ From: nickgrenfell@juno.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 00:25:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Capitol Records On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 09:22:12 -0400 Graves writes: >I always wondered why Grand Funk did not have more of their albums put >on CD. I am a fan of a fairly unknown band (Sparks) who have 17 of >their 18 albums on CD!!! Sparks? Weren't they out in the early 70's? I seem to remember the name, but not the music. >Grand Funk were one of the biggest bands of the 70's >and I am amazed that the "Live Album", "On Time"...etc...are either >not on CD or are hard to obtain!!! May I say "Capitol Sucks???" It probably isn't totally their decision. But believe me, when I heard that I could get "On Time", "Grand Funk" and "We're an American Band" imported from Japan each for $30, I _jumped_ on it. >Also, can someone answer this...How is Grand Funk in concert now? Well, I'll tell you .. when I heard them on Jay Leno playing "Closer to Home/I'm your Captain", I was frightened. I feared that the line of horns and strings that gave them the accompanyment on TV was going to tag along to ruin that crisp clear guitar work. But I fear no longer. They were simply excellent here in Phoenix. > Without causing any arguments hopefully, I wonder if most >of the fans would agree that after "WAAB" Grand Funk kind of "sold >out"? I don't know about 'selling out'. People are always changing .. try new things and see where it takes them. But, for me, all it takes is a listen to one of their later albumns, "Good and Evil" on All of the Girls in the World Beware!!! and that should tell you that they can still go back to what made their first few albumns great. Nick Nick Grenfell Fidonet 1:114/440 e-mail Nick.Grenfell@BioHazard.ghostrdr.wierius.com e-mail nickgrenfell@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Jeff Lawrence Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 04:15:57 -0500 Subject: Jones County Fair Gettin ready to rock in Monticello, Iowa on July 19th. Are there any other roadkill people making this one? I've got info galore on this one, right down the road from where I live. ------------------------------ From: LOGICR@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 08:52:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Jones County Fair You know....I could drive up from St. Louis since it appears to be the closest they are going to get. I am sure it would be a good time. Anyone got an idea of how far it is? Should I bring my guitar for our own *Midwest FunkFest*? Kevin LogicR@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 08:59:59 -0400 Subject: RE: I unsuscribe to many lying trubble making as*h For what its worth, I'd love to witness these songs here suggested by RCinSInCty performed in concert for a change. I'm OK if others would rather not. Leo - -----Original Message----- From: Bass6plyr@aol.com [SMTP:Bass6plyr@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 1997 11:14 PM To: Ljb Subject: Re: I unsuscribe to many lying trubble making as*h Sorry about that Ken. I copied and pasted the message from your letter and it was sent as if you wrote this. Just wanted to clear that up. Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com It was RCinSinCty@aol.com who wrote... << What about good and evil, creepin, loneliest rider, walk like a man, > carry me through, Out to get you. I don't beleive any of you who think grand > funk sold out ever listened to these albems you just became idiot's like thew > critics, Bandwagoners, and Grand funk does not need you as fans. >> ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 09:06:48 -0400 Subject: RE: Who's Best? Who cares! For me anyway, a few songs on Flint are really super music. Never give it up. Leo - -----Original Message----- From: fancy1@ibm.net [SMTP:fancy1@ibm.net] Sent: Saturday, July 05, 1997 3:37 PM To: Ljb Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! VegasRDC@aol.com wrote: > you wrote > > I have all of Mark's solo albums and I have the album called Flint > which has > Don, Mel and Craig on it. Well brothers and sisters I have to tell you > the > Flint lp is not as good as any of Mark's lps. Even with the help of > Zappa, > Mark Chatfield and Todd Rundgren on Guitar the album is weak. And > Mark's > albums kicks butt. even without the superb playing of Mel and Don. > But his > albums are not as good as a GFR album. Hmmm are you getting my point > yet. > They need each other to be GRAND FUNK RAILROAD. So get off of Mark's > case. > And lets support the best American Band in the land. They are all > GREAT! And > by the way Mark kicks ass on lead guitar and sings his ass off also. > Who's > Best? Who Cares! They are back together and that is all that should > matter. > The band needs our support. They do not need to be put down. How would > you > feel if you had just read that you were the least talented one in the > band. > Boy! that sure would make me want to play for you. NOT! Have some > consideration for the band members. Be glad they are back together and > give > them your support. Mark, Don & Mel are GREAT players and together they > form > the BEST BAND IN THE LAND, GRAND FUNK RAILROAD! > ##====(SAM) > > I'm with you. Also Mark guitar playing has improved with every year. > Who else > can you say that about in Rock music. > > rick ; ) I don't agree. I have the Flint album and I think that it is great. Don wrote some great songs on this albums and finally had a chance to show that he could write and sing also. It's a good album for a first effort with or without MF. ------------------------------ From: Roverpick@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR cd's You know brothers and sisters, there are some Closer to Home CD's out there that look very nice on the outside and are distributed by Crapitol here in the states. If someone offers one to you, don't take it, don't take it. You see, these versions sound like crap with a CAPITOL C. If you want a good copy of Closer, you have got to get the Japanese import version. The import has been done up right. ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: RE: Who's Best? Who cares! Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! VegasRDC@aol.com wrote: > you wrote > > I have all of Mark's solo albums and I have the album called Flint > which has > Don, Mel and Craig on it. Well brothers and sisters I have to tell you > the > Flint lp is not as good as any of Mark's lps. Even with the help of > Zappa, > Mark Chatfield and Todd Rundgren on Guitar the album is weak. And > Mark's > albums kicks butt. even without the superb playing of Mel and Don. > But his > albums are not as good as a GFR album. Hmmm are you getting my point > yet. > They need each other to be GRAND FUNK RAILROAD. So get off of Mark's > case. > And lets support the best American Band in the land. They are all > GREAT! And > by the way Mark kicks ass on lead guitar and sings his ass off also. > Who's > Best? Who Cares! They are back together and that is all that should > matter. > The band needs our support. They do not need to be put down. How would > you > feel if you had just read that you were the least talented one in the > band. > Boy! that sure would make me want to play for you. NOT! Have some > consideration for the band members. Be glad they are back together and > give > them your support. Mark, Don & Mel are GREAT players and together they > form > the BEST BAND IN THE LAND, GRAND FUNK RAILROAD! > ##====(SAM) > > I'm with you. Also Mark guitar playing has improved with every year. > Who else > can you say that about in Rock music. > > rick ; ) I don't agree. I have the Flint album and I think that it is great. Don wrote some great songs on this albums and finally had a chance to show that he could write and sing also. It's a good album for a first effort with or without MF. What do you diagree with, theres like 10 points in this e-mail, do you disagree with all the points in this letter, because if you do you think GFR is better off as flint. read again even without the superb playing of Mel and Don. > But Mark's > albums are not as good as a GFR album. Hmmm are you getting my point > yet. > They need each other to be GRAND FUNK RAILROAD. do you disagree? also They do not need to be put down. How would > you > feel if you had just read that you were the least talented one in the > band. > Boy! that sure would make me want to play for you. NOT! Have some > consideration for the band members. Be glad they are back together and > give > them your support. do you disagree with this statement? and again Also Mark guitar playing has improved with every year. disagee? ------------------------------ From: VegasRDC@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: take me off please! unsuscribe Grand-Funk ------------------------------ From: GEODOG8809@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GF - On Time CD NOW is giving a projected release for On Time: July 29th. Price is $10.77. ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I unsuscribe to many lying trubble making as*holes on hear. I feel they are one of the hardest working bands today,who have seen through theyre temporary fog.look at players like jack bruce,nils lofgren,peter frampton,dave edmunds who have all been clients of david fishofs and some of them are in the hall of fame.but mark,don and mel are out theyre working,makeing it happen,they truly deserve to get in the rock n roll hall of fame.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR cd's Give me e-pluribus,phoenix,first live album and im set. ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Capitol Records waab,is good,but i would take album;survival or the red album over it.sincerly steve. ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! does anyone remember a great gfr song called;got too get away?From phoenix. ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! mark farner is the walk,the talk,the soul of funk.sincerly steven. ------------------------------ From: Sue Moore Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 16:17:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Anniversary 4th July 1969 Creamx5@aol.com wrote: > craig frost,wasnt at the atlanta pop festival Doing what???? Doing what???? ------------------------------ From: bluetuna@webtv.net (Rand Kelly) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:47:43 -0700 Subject: unsubscribe please unsubscribe please-no time to read. Bummed about the Palace Video. ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:22:45 +0200 Subject: Phoenix, Trying to get away Hi Steven, Creamx5@aol.com, you wrote: <> Yes, you mean the song "Trying to get away". Great song! I wonder what this song is about. The lyrics aren't clear to me. Does anybody have a clue? CU, Nico. ------------------------------ From: DOdell4280@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:38:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: trivia question#1 When Mark got his hair cut in74-75 what did he do with it? Phil you know? ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! In a message dated 97-07-06 16:01:39 EDT, Creamx5@aol.com writes: << mark farner is the walk,the talk,the soul of funk.sincerly steven. >> Was he all that with his christian project? I don't think so. GFR IS "the walk, the talk, the soul of funk". Later, Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Pamuska@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! Sam and others, By saying that Marks solo albums rock and are better than Flint all I can say GOD BLESS AMERICA!! Only here in this great country can we openly say what we feel. I too have all of Marks solo albums plus Flint. But here we go down different trails. I have always thought that the majority of Marks songs sucked. Now don't call out the hit squads!!!!! Someone in a early note said it right. Together they are great but seperate they are mediocre. On Flint the guitar may not have been as good as we would have liked but I thought it was better than any of the other solo albums. And on Whats Funk? I thought Dennis did a great job on the base. I could shut my eyes and think I was listening to Mel! Mick(Pamuska) ------------------------------ From: Pamuska@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: t-shirts Hi gang. Is there an (official) Roadkill t-shirt floating around. I would love to have one as I collect t-shirts. Please e-mail me with the info. Thanks Mickey ------------------------------ From: Randy Stowe Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 19:01:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > Was he all that with his christian project? I don't think so. GFR IS "the > walk, the talk, the soul of funk". > > Later, > Paul > Bass6plyr@aol.com Hi Paul, I'm not disagreeing with you, but keep in mind that the Christian music market is alot smaller than the hard-rock market of the late sixties-early seventies. As far as this current topic of who's best, I do feel that in GFR's case, the sum is greater than the parts. Later Bro! Randy ------------------------------ From: Roverpick@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: trivia question#1 Auctioned it off for the Red Cross....I think. ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 21:52:57 EDT Subject: Re: trivia question#1 On Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:38:10 -0400 (EDT) DOdell4280@aol.com writes: >When Mark got his hair cut in74-75 what did he do with it? Phil you >know? > I believe it was donated (auctioned) for a charity which I think was the red cross. Playing with brewer's drum stick, Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@juno.com (James I Maijala) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 21:52:57 EDT Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! On Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Pamuska@aol.com writes: >Sam and others, By saying that Marks solo albums rock and are better >than >Flint all I can say GOD BLESS AMERICA!! Only here in this great >country can >we openly say what we feel. I too have all of Marks solo albums plus >Flint. >But here we go down different trails. I have always thought that the >majority >of Marks songs sucked. Now don't call out the hit squads!!!!! Someone >in a >early note said it right. Together they are great but seperate they >are >mediocre. On Flint the guitar may not have been as good as we would >have >liked but I thought it was better than any of the other solo albums. >And on >Whats Funk? I thought Dennis did a great job on the base. I could shut >my >eyes and think I was listening to Mel! >Mick(Pamuska) > Interesting Mick, As far as Mark's songs sucking, I would say that I like some more than others but that could be said of everyone. Also, their live performance puts their studio versions to shame, much better live. Closer to Home is (in my opinion) GFR;s defining song. It tells it all, baby. And it was written by Mark Farner. Remember, they made it big when they were very young (20). Not to many 20 year olds have a complete mastery of recording and songwriting. They were working in bargain basement recording studios (even by the standards of the day). Not too much layering of sound or anything. It was not until WAAB that they stepped up the quality of the recording and eventually they built their own studio called "The Swamp". There was no need for T. Knight or Capitol to spend alot of money on Three guys who were probably just "Flashes in the Pan". But we know better. They have passed the test of time and are now appreciated as real pioneers in the area of hard rock and metal. Even if they can't "buy" their way into the R &R hall of fame we all know the real score. GFR is and always will be the "peoples band" and the "American Band". How about this subject, How many Rock and Roll Bands profess any kind of patriotism of any kind? Remember songs like "1976" and "Son, Don't let 'em Take Your Gun". Those are rather patriotic is a certain sense. Most bands are rebel in nature, that's how they sell records to teenagers, appeal to what is happening in their lives. Early on GFR kind of did that, but later went the other way. "We're an American Band" is about as flag waving as anything the George M Cohan ever wrote!! Talk about 2 cents!! Jim ------------------------------ From: DOdell4280@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: old dates hey man, Somebody was looking for old dates. Well I was in the attic & found a bunch of old mags . They are filled with great pix & stories. Id like to share my goldmine of memories with those who grew up duri ng that time. &everybody else. someone was asking about old dates. heres what I came across so far!!!!!!!!! Jan 23 N. CAROLINA- CUMBERLAND COUNTY AUDITORIUM- FAYETTEVILLE Jan 24VIRGINIA -COLISEUM Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Administrivia Hi all, Just a brief note from your friendly local list administrator. Please, if you find a need to unsubscribe -- what ever the reason -- read your welcome message carefully. Complete instruc- tions are contained within it. Any type of administrative re- quest needs to be sent to majordomo@roadkill.com and *NOT* the list! On another, unrelated note: do you think we could keep the bickering down just a bit. If you feel a need to really flame somebody, please take it off list and into private e-mail. The list is getting quite big with almost 200 subscribers now and I'm sure that no one really wants to see the fights going on. It really isn't as bad here as it has been on other mailing lists I've been on. But I have had several complaints and I would really not want to loose subscribers here simply because we couldn't mind our collective manners. Just a friendly reminder: think before you post. We now return you to your regularly scheduled list discussion about the best band in the land -- *the* American Band -- Grand Funk Railroad. Take care, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who has heard that "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt." ( `-`-. (42?) +--------------------------+--------------------------+----- '( @ > / ---+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | _) ( | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| / ) | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | /_,' / | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+---+ \ / +----+ +===m""m==+ ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re:Hall of Fame To: RCinSinCty@aol.com, To@, kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, cc@, grand-funk@roadkill.com, @, @ I feel they are one of the hardest working bands today,who have seen through theyre temporary fog.look at players like jack bruce,nils lofgren,peter frampton,dave edmunds who have all been clients of david fishofs and some of them are in the hall of fame.but mark,don and mel are out theyre working,makeing it happen,they truly deserve to get in the rock n roll hall of fame.sincerly steve Steve I'm with you lets hope they will get in. Don said that they were nominated but not voted in by the borad, at the Hall. I tried to get in the site but could not navigate to the message area, I'll keep trying. Donna Wrightman started a chain in there for GFR to get them in the hall. If most of us (160 plus) on hear, join that chain Donna started, maybe the board at the RNR Hall of fame will take note. Rick ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Phoenix, Trying to get away i think its very similiar too a protest song about city living and its smoggy crowded negative things..sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Who's Best? Who cares! i disagree paul,in general i meant mark has the spirit of soulful excitement being rock or religion.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: trivia question#1 who knows,he probaly didnt look at it even,though hair is a big part of the rock n roll buissness.sincerly steve ------------------------------ From: Creamx5@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: old dates hey,i saw them in 73 at the l.a. forum,18,000 seats sold out and it was very good.sincerly steve ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #85 *******************************