From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #72 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Wednesday, 11 June 1997 Volume 01 : Number 072 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR Fans The only way GFR will get any recogition is if there re-issues sell gold. So far the concerts are selling out, that's good news but will this convert into Disk sales, I hope so. As fans we need to get busy, if we want all of the GFR astolog released we need to buy the CD's when reesed. Call classic radio stations and request the Funk. E-mail VH1, Capitol, MCA, and Full Moon/warner. Write letters to the editor if you see a bad review. All the reviewers who hated GFR love the bands that copy then, like alice in chines. Maybe we can create intrest in the press. I'll do my part, everyone; please do something. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 12:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Letterman appearance status? Tim The leno performance was great and he seemed relly stoked about having GFR on. I don't know what GFR's management is thinking, but they missed two TV oppertunities. That's too bad, the press is not going to pump the comeback of the Funk, so TV is the only way. I talk too soo many GFR fans who did not even know that they tried a comeback in the early eighties. There was no pub; execpt a few articals in hit parader and circus and some other music mages, and who over 20 read's these. They need to do as much tv as possible, get there site up, do radio shows (Mark Don and Mel were on KOLS in LA on May 1st, they were interviewed and played five songs-they need to do more of this), and get the catolog out (of course if the first few dont sell well-we will never see the rest). Also a GFR fan club should be established (like areosmiths, that provides a newsletter, tickett info-early buy program, offers t-shirts, bumper stickers,etc., they need the pub.) Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 9:59:36 -0800 Subject: Re: GFR Fans >Get FUNK'D, saw the boys 1st time in '72 have luv'd them since they starte= d=20 >before that, to this day it truelly "blows mind mind",. that they still ge= t=20 >hardly any recognition they deserve, they are coming to Phoenix on >June 28th, (I've got me tickets), the radio stations are barely mentioning= =20 >the fact(pisses me off), and they aren't even playing any of their kick-as= s=20 >music@!@! And I heard the other day that the band whose does the >oldie"Good Love", Little Rascals I think, are already inducted into the=20 >"Roclk-n-Roll Hall of Fame, duh? One hit single???? GFR hasn't been=20 >inducted and not even mentiioned there, what is happening ?? =20 >'Inside Lookin Out'=20 =20 >Peace, >Roz I think GFR are destined to be in the rock n' roll ghetto. The critics=20 initially saw them as a poor-man's Cream, or something like that. There st= ill=20 is an historical and critical bias against them. We can always make the re= cord=20 sales and concert attendance arguments, but so could Duran Duran and Julio=20 Iglesias fans! Screw 'Em, Deemo (new to the list, but not to GFR) =20 =20 ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 13:21:32 -0400 Subject: Reply-To: EfahsT@aol.com Yes I agree with Efahs T. I saw a show early in the morning about summer comeback tours and GFR was not mentioned at all. Supertramp, Bee Gees and crap like that. No offense to anyone who likes these bands. And the Beach Boys! Come on! talk about recycled material these guys cant even come up with a new sound if they wanted too. Same goes for the other 2 bands I mentioned. Geez I am really gettin mad. I wrote a letter to Sunny about the web site not being up. No response yet. Oh yeah and Lionel Richie, George Clinton (Funkadelics) they talked about them too. There are a bunch of comeback tours this year. And its in my opinion that our favorite band is going to be over looked again. We need to spread the word to everyone that GRAND FUNK RAILROAD IS BACK ON TRACK! Capital needs to be more aggressive and really advertise the hell out of them. Well that is my two cents. Sorry if I upset anyone that likes the bands I mentioned. But Funk needs our support. Are You Ready? Then lets do it. Tell everyone you meet about there comeback tour and the new live CD from it and the new album they are working on. And don't forget about the rereleases coming out this year. Spread the word! Grand Funk Railroad is Back! Buy there albums (CD's) when they come out. Go see them in concert. Let's not let em down. Get the message out there. Peace...Sam ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 10:38:49 -0800 Subject: NEAT-O GFR MEMORABILIA Although Beatle fans have the memorabilia market cornered, I've come=20 across some cool GFR stuff and am interested in other people's finds. =20 Here's the non-vinyl stuff I've found over the last seven or so years: =20 Phoenix frisbee 7-11 Slurpee cup Gold record award for "Grand Funk" Shinin' On tour shirt =20 Anybody wanna sell the E Pluribus Funk promo items? Please? =20 =20 Where's Craig?, =20 Deemo =20 =20 Terry Knight may have been a prick, but the albums were better under=20 his administration. ------------------------------ From: GRANDFUNKR@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 17:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Letterman appearance status? I agree 100% with ya ! It seems as though the Management team is setting back and not taking this as serious as they should . You think they would have been more prepared for the return of GRAND FUNK RAILROAD ! Lets hope they can pick it up and get this FUNKIN TRAIN on the TRACKS !!!!!! ------------------------------ From: GRANDFUNKR@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 17:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR Fans The radio station in Erie that play the classic rock has responded really good from myself and slashdash hammering them that GFR is really back ! I have heard alot more than usual , and what I do here isn't the same ole thing . I've actually heard "inside looking out"', Shinin on and walk like a man . ------------------------------ From: GRANDFUNKR@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 17:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Reply-To: EfahsT@aol.com AMEN BRO , WELL PUT ! ------------------------------ From: GRANDFUNKR@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 17:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re:CRAIG FROST Why has Craig Frost been left out ? The guy they are using now sounds real good I've heard him in Pitts. ,but as a GFR fan I liked alot of the stuff they did with Craig. Was it money, didn';t Craig want to go along with the three piece segment of the show or did the band just figure screw him he wasn't all that important to us ?He does an awesome solo in BLACK LICORICE. ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re:CRAIG FROST Hi all, On Mon, 9 Jun 1997 GRANDFUNKR@aol.com wrote: > Why has Craig Frost been left out ? ... Well here's my $0.02 based on a variety of inputs from a vari- ety of sources. Take it FWIW ... The band was originally run as a democracy -- everybody got one vote in any decisions that were made (I'm talking post-Knight here). As the law-suits were being settled and Phoenix was being completed, they voted as to whether to make Craig a permanent part of the band. Don and Mel voted to include him, Mark wanted to keep the power-trio thing going. This has a lot to do with why, when the band broke up, Don, Mel, and Craig formed Flint while Mark went off on his own. And you all know where things went after that -- Don and Craig even- tually joined the Silver Bullet Band while Mel retired. Don eventually retired as well while Craig continued on with the Sil- ver Bullet Band, which -- as far as I know -- he is still playing with. I believe I had heard that Mark had become disenchanted with the Christian Music Industry. So, when approached about reform- ing GFR, with both Mel and Don semi-retired while Craig was still fully employed (and happy with his work and remembering the orig- inal democratic vote???) they reformed as the original power trio. Now Mark does some good keyboard work -- don't get me wrong -- but he is not a keyboardist. So, they needed someone to handle the bulk of the keyboard parts that appeared in the post-Knight songs and former Flint-native Howard Eddy (spelling???) was tapped to fill the role. The bigger question in terms of the reunion is perhaps "What happened to Rick?" During last year's mini-reunion, Mark's brother -- Rick Farner -- played rhythm guitar on (as far as I'm concerned) the same level as Howard on keyboards. I had heard that he would be part of this year's tour but didn't see him -- even back in the shad- ows -- at Auburn Hills! I saw no mention of him in any of the reviews of the New York and L.A. shows either. In any event, that's my $0.02, FWIW, IMHO. Take care, Please Don't Worry, and always grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who thinks that time is the best teacher -- but it kills all its pupils. +-oOOo---oOOo------+ +--------------------------+--------------------------+------------------+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | || || (42?) | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| ||/|_|\|| / | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | \\ @ @ // | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+--- ( V ) --------+ / O \ ------------------------------ From: BeatlesHD@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Update: Ringo/Farner CD Yeah, that was what I wanted to know.....what songs at the concert. thanks frank, gretchen By far tyeh bulk of GFR's repetoire is sung by Mark. Ken i think she wanted to know which farner songs she heard at the all starr show... frank ------------------------------ From: steve lisuk Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 17:12:37 -0700 Subject: [none] Where are the people that want to talk? Donna's chat-line has been quiet every night at 5 pm PST - thats 8pm EST!! Let's talk and try it out. ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:22:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: From Mick... Man, what interest in the studio recording! I'll get those tapes out this week (I hope). Remember be gentle with the reviews at this stage; we know exactly where we stand and the work we have to do to present our material to an "all GFR crowd"!!! Greg W -- send me a personal email with your address Mike Dolphi -- the qualifications for you or anyone else to play at '98RKFF are: you are a member of roadkill, play an instrument and show up at the party! Caliber or level of expertise doesn't matter, I think they'll be all types. Bottom line: you qualify. If there's a particular song (or group) of songs you want to do, let me know so we can coordinate between players. As you know Bobby, Smitty and I are working on the LIVE ALBUM, HST does WAAB, I'm Yo' Capt. and SKOW, Phil wants to do "Just Couldn't Wait", of course Donna's gonna jump up and do Inside Lookin' Out, so speak up tell us what you want to play. As a drummer, I'm willing to learn any GFR song you want to do. I'm sure Smitty (bass/vocals) would be glad to learn the bass line and or Bobby the guitar/keyboard; HST is a versitile band that may also be willing to learn a few more GFR tunes -- so you could jam with them on a particular song. Back Row Al Not is a GFR drummer, he's another good source that will definately be at the party. Donna -- now that I'm playing again, I'm starting to transcribe the GFR drum parts to the songs we're working on. Right now I'm almost done with IYC/CTH studio version. Would you like to post it on your "Tablature" page (or any other appropriate spot)? I bet there are some drummers out there (maybe even Don) who would like to see this stuff on a chart (of course, it's my interpretation; Don may just laugh and say, "That's not what I'm doing!). I used a drawing program called Visio Technical 4.0 for Windows. I'd love to be able to email it to you -- but if that's not possible I'll send you the hardcopy. Did anybody see that Beacon video yet? I'm waiting to hear before I buy. Tomorrow, Tues., is our next session. Wish us luck, we're still psyched. A good Buddy of mine, Billy Ports of HST(guitarist-vocalist-tech-sound), is interested in coming down to "tech" for Bobby. This guy could tune a clothes line. I'm hoping he can make it for Bobby's sake, in addition I'd like to hear what he thinks of Bobby's rendition of CTH; Billy's been playing it for over ten years with his band. Should be interesting!!! Last question: Am I supposed to be having this much fun? Keep it Rockin', MCat (Mick) ------------------------------ From: Robin Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 17:35:31 -0700 Subject: Re: Update: Ringo/Farner CD At 06:58 PM 6/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >Yeah, that was what I wanted to know.....what songs at the concert. > i think she wanted to know which farner songs she heard at the >all starr show... My memory may not be perfect but I think Locomotion and Closer to Home were the only complete GFR songs they did during Ringo's 1995 tour. I also remember hearing Some Kind of Wonderful , but I think they only did part of it as a portion of a medley with other non-GFR songs. Mark definitely stole the show with the same type of incredible performance I remember from GFR shows in the 70s. Honestly, I thought Mark's energy level was higher at the Ringo show than at the recent Greek show. Speaking of the Greek...are there other photos from after the show next to the van, besides what's on Donna's page?? I know someone took some pictures of Mark when I was standing right behind him and I would absolutely love to see those. One of my favorite memories from meeting them that night (besides getting Mark and Don's autograph on my Closer to Home album, somehow I missed Mel :() was when a women approached Mark for an autograph on a GFR sticker (backstage pass maybe?) that she was wearing right in the middle of her chest and she wanted Mark to sign it while she was still wearing it - she said "Mel did!" and Mark said "but Mark can't - you'll have to take it off". Oh Farner, definitely not your average rock star. Robin ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:48:12 -0400 Subject: Re: At 05:12 PM 6/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >Where are the people that want to talk? Donna's chat-line has been quiet >every night at 5 pm PST - thats 8pm EST!! Let's talk and try it out. > I have tried to use it, and it will not work with my software. I don't have Java. Any suggestions on how I can get it to work? I am using Netscape 3 for Win3.1 Sam ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:52:24 -0700 Subject: Re: GFR Fans Roz, I live in Gilbert, AZ. We must be neighbors!! KSLX (100.7) is promoting the June 28th date very heavily. I hear a promo for it at least 5 times a day! If you have your radio on during morning drive or during lunch time (11-1) you will hear the promo. It's a pretty good one. I'll be in Vegas on the 27th and will see the show there. Later, Jim PS. did you like the low temperatures last weekend? ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:32:23 -0700 Subject: Ricky Farner William A. Parrette wrote: > The bigger question in terms of the reunion is perhaps "What > happened to Rick?" > > During last year's mini-reunion, Mark's brother -- Rick Farner > -- played rhythm guitar on (as far as I'm concerned) the same > level as Howard on keyboards. I had heard that he would be part > of this year's tour but didn't see him -- even back in the shad- > ows -- at Auburn Hills! I saw no mention of him in any of the > reviews of the New York and L.A. shows either. Dear Bill, I didn't notice Ricky Farner in the shadows of last years tour at York, Pa. I wasn't paying close enough attention. There was definitely a guy back there helping out with the rhythm guitar. It must've been him. The last two times I saw Mark solo were in Newburgh, N.Y. and Hartford, Ct. in April 1995 and Ricky was just singing background vocals off stage at both shows. He was definitely grooving to the music! Thanks for the great info and for all your efforts. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: TNUCFred@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 23:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CRAIG FROST As much as I like the sound of the post "Survival" albums, and as much as I love GFR, I just don't believe that if the guys stay with a pop sound they are going to enjoy the success that they deserve. I think the basic 3 pcs sound will be very well received in todays music circles... heck they were alternative rock before it was cool to be AR. I really enjoy the early edge and I personally wish that they would go back to it. Craig is a fine player but ..... I don't think they need him. and if he wanted to be there, well I'll bet he could be. (OK bring out the hammer and nails) TNUCFred ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:48:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Update: Ringo/Farner CD Robin wrote: > Honestly, I thought Mark's energy level was higher at the > Ringo show than at the recent Greek show. Dear Robin, I saw Ringo/Farner twice in July 1995 in N.J. and upstate N.Y. The second show was at the Starlite Theater in Latham(Albany) and there was no ventilation and the theater had a circular rotating stage. It was boiling in there, but Farner kept running around the stage. He was pumped! It was such a rush for me to hear his beautiful voice singing background to the other's tunes. I remember him saying "I sure am having a good time here tonight. How about you?" He may have slowed down this year because of his fever and back surgery. He played FULL versions of The Locomotion, IYC/CTH and SKOW at each of these shows. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 00:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Update: Ringo/Farner CD you are sooooooooooo right mark is defintely not your average rock starr or person! i think he was more active with ringO but dont forget he had a couple of discs removed the end of jan 97!! and don had a ski stride that allowed him to laugh cuz he tore his left calf THE only injury he could have and not affect bosnia!!!!!!!!!!! you'll have to take what off? sounds normal to me! g ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:36:30 -0700 Subject: GFR Collectors series Hey all ya Funksters out there, I thought I'd stop by a Tower record store on the way to Newport Beach, Ca, It was spontanious, and definatly not planned, you see the only CD's I own are GFR. And after going to plenty of 'record stores in Anaheim,Ca. there is not even a slot with GFR'S name on it...(they do have one for the 'Monkey's! As well other bands like 'The Partridge Family!!,give me a break!)to my surprise they actually had AMERICAN BAND, CLOSER TO HOME, E-PLURIBUS FUNK' and GRAND FUNK COLLECTOR SERIES', I BOUGHT THE COLLECTOR SERIES' just because. Because it was the first time in a long time I saw a CD slot for GRAND FUNK. It has a real crisp sound to it. Anyway I just thought I'd share that with ya all. SUPPORT THE AMERICAN BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk at you later, tom tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: EfahsT@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 08:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Update: Ringo/Farner CD In a message dated 97-06-10 05:21:28 EDT, lichtj@mhv.net (James Lichtenberg) writes: << I saw Ringo/Farner twice in July 1995 in N.J. and upstate N.Y. ...Farner kept running around the stage. He was pumped! ... He may have slowed down this year because of his fever and back surgery. He played FULL versions of The Locomotion, IYC/CTH and SKOW at each of these shows. >> He stole the show at the Dallas concert, too. Same high energy level you speak of, Jim. And when he sang Closer To Home, he held the last "I'm getting closer to my hoooooooome," so long, we had all slid out of our chairs onto the floor and were gasping for breath. I've not heard him hold it like that since. As for his slow down, I saw him in the short GF tour in 96. About 50 - 75% as energetic as in the Ringo show. I went expecting to see him jumping off his keyboard, slingin his guitar around, laying back on the floor, bent-kneed, jammin' to the hilt. Nope, sorry. Don't know if that Farner will ever be back. To be fair, though, he reportedly had strep throat at that show. To be critical though, I haven't heard anyone say he was smokin like the pre-Survival shows. The big surprise for me was Mel. He was floating like a butterfly, stingin like a bee! The man was on the move. ------------------------------ From: michael.demattei@milliman.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 6:23:36 -0800 Subject: Re[2]: CRAIG FROST =20 >The bigger question in terms of the reunion is perhaps "What >happened to Rick?" > >During last year's mini-reunion, Mark's brother -- Rick Farner >-- played rhythm guitar on (as far as I'm concerned) the same=20 >level as Howard on keyboards. I had heard that he would be part=20 >of this year's tour but didn't see him -- even back in the shad-=20 >ows -- at Auburn Hills! I saw no mention of him in any of the=20 >reviews of the New York and L.A. shows either. =20 Is this the same guy who used to handle Mark's merchandise sales? Or=20 was that his brother-IN-LAW? =20 Deemo ------------------------------ From: Pamuska@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: re:Frost Hi gang, I see there has been a few notes about Mr. Frost. I had the same thoughts so I sent a note to Sunny. She replied that Mr. Frost was never considered part of the "power trio". There has always been a keyboard player and now its Howard. Craid is still part of the official Silver Bullet Band. He has been with Bob Seger throughout the 80's and now in the 90's. I tried to write verbatum as to what her note said. I guess AOL doesn't have cut and paste or I just don't know how!!. That is the story about Mr. Frost straight from the horses mouth(so to speak!). Pamuska(Mickey) ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Message to AOLers on Roadkill list Just to let you know, I have uploaded some GFR sound clips to the file search database. They would only allow up to a 15 second recording (bummer) but they sound really good! I recorded them in a Sampling Frequency of 22,050 Hz, a Sampling Rate of 8-bits, and Channel Type is in Stereo. Some files say they will take 6 minutes to download at 28.8, but not true. It's roughly 3 to 4 minutes. To get there, click on the file search icon to the right of the people connection icon. Then all you do is type these words exactly.... grand funk wav and they will show up for you to download. Later, Paul Bass6plyr ------------------------------ From: "mike feldt" Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:25:27 PDT Subject: re: neat-o gfr memorabilia Hi gang, I recently found a clock that looks exactly like the one that Don is holding on the cover of the ON TIME lp. Does this qualify as memorabilia? FUNK ON Mike - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Ricky Farner Someone is definately helping, I don't know about the guitar or Ricky Farner, but the GMA video I made has vocals that are not of the mouths of all I see.... though all the mouths are moving.....whoa, slap my face and call me zsa zsa... / :-> ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: re: neat-o gfr memorabilia Hi gang, I recently found a clock that looks exactly like the one that Don is holding on the cover of the ON TIME lp. Does this qualify as memorabilia? FUNK ON Mike paint grand funk on it. ; ) Rick ------------------------------ From: Youngun401@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: my thoughts on GFRR!!!!!!! :)))))))))))) Hey everyone!! Its me, Beau, the one asking about the Oklahoma tickets earlier.... still have no word on what's going on..... the ticket offices dont know what I'm talking about...... anyway... Being that I'm 21..... that places's me in "generation X." And being influnced by not only GFR... but by Metallica, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Guns-N-Roses, pearl jam, etc.... and knowing what my generation is liking -- the HARD heavy sounds --- and from the --either the AOLs interview or Prodigy ..... done by Mark Farner, earlier in the year... he addresses that --- the big reason for the reunion--- is that - its (today's music.. i.e. alternative rock) going back to the garage sound ... raw power.. sort-of-speak..... back to the way that GFRR was... before they went to their "pop" music..... which is diffently weak... ok, some of the songs that came out of the Frost era.... was good, but it wasnt the HARD -- HEAVY in YOUR FACE kind of music that the "Live Album," (the red album), and On Time, was like...... this is the kind of stuff that my friends would really like...... anyways.. my point...... their comeback albums in the 80s... "GF lives" and "what funk?" (which lost the funk in that album for sure..... so the title fits!) I wish that thier new album.... would go back to the hard-grovin' music that ALL GFRR fans ARE READY for!!! --- If they go to this kind of sound... or very close to what made them FAMOUS...... they would make MANY people happy...... then they would get my generation --- Gen X ---- on track with the Train!!! ----- therefore -- they would GRAP hold of my generation.... and the GFRR legacy will "live" on forsure!! 2nd thing ---- I agree with the people here at roadkill..... SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH PROMOTING GFRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can not find ANYTHING on GFRR (on CD) and no one knows how to get the stuff, because either its out of print or its on a very small label... so it will take forever to get!! MESSAGE TO CAPITAL RECORDS ------ GET OFF YOUR @$$!!!! "of course that's only my opinion -- I could be wrong," as Dennis Miller would say. okay - I'll leave you with that for today........ sorry if I offended anyone.. my intention was not to do so..... it was to simply release my thoughts and some anger on what I think is wrong with everything........ and to hopefully motivate!! so please--- GET THIS THING ON THE MOVE!! so we can "Get back in" :)))))) later ---- your Gen X GFR faithfull Beau ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:49:52 -0700 Subject: Vegas Show Tom Minero is looking for tickets to the Vegas show. I thought I saw someone trying to sell tickets for this show a couple of weeks ago. If they are still available, please e-mail Tom at TMINERO@aol.com Thanks, Donna ------------------------------ From: Slashdash@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR Fans Now Everyone has to do their part.... JAM them with every kind of mail/email/phone calls.... What ever it takes!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Slashdash@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: my thoughts on GFRR!!!!!!! :)))))))))))) DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN'T BE TOO LONG (From an older point of view) /- ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:27:17 -0700 Subject: What's Funk? Youngun401@aol.com wrote: > Being that I'm 21..... that places's me in "generation X." And being > influnced by not only GFR... but by Metallica, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, > Soundgarden, Guns-N-Roses, pearl jam, etc.... > anyways.. my point...... their comeback albums in the 80s... "GF lives" and > "what funk?" (which lost the funk in that album for sure..... so the title > fits!) Dear Beau, I know I'm in the minority, but I like "What's Funk?" and I listen to it more than I listen to any of the early albums. I think if "R&R American Style" had been properly promoted it could have been a hit single. Your generation is also influenced by Marilyn Manson, the antichrist. Sadly, God is being systematically removed from our society and Manson is at the forefront of the movement. I think that your generation has been adversely affected by the vomit that is splewed out of the television set 24 hours a day and the fact that many more of your generation come from one or no parent families as compared to the 1970's family structures. Sorry to get political, but I think that you Gen Xers are at a big disadvantage with the state of society today. Your letter just got me going a little bit. Thanks for your letter & time and I hope to talk soon. Later. Respectfully Submitted Jim ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: my thoughts on GFRR!!!!!!! :)))))))))))) Hey everyone!! Its me, Beau, the one asking about the Oklahoma tickets earlier.... still have no word on what's going on..... the ticket offices dont know what I'm talking about...... anyway... Being that I'm 21..... that places's me in "generation X." And being influnced by not only GFR... but by Metallica, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Guns-N-Roses, pearl jam, etc.... and knowing what my generation is liking -- the HARD heavy sounds --- and from the --either the AOLs interview or Prodigy ..... done by Mark Farner, earlier in the year... he addresses that --- the big reason for the reunion--- is that - its (today's music.. i.e. alternative rock) going back to the garage sound ... raw power.. sort-of-speak..... back to the way that GFRR was... before they went to their "pop" music..... which is diffently weak... ok, some of the songs that came out of the Frost era.... was good, but it wasnt the HARD -- HEAVY in YOUR FACE kind of music that the "Live Album," (the red album), and On Time, was like...... this is the kind of stuff that my friends would really like...... anyways.. my point...... their comeback albums in the 80s... "GF lives" and "what funk?" (which lost the funk in that album for sure..... so the title fits!) I wish that thier new album.... would go back to the hard-grovin' music that ALL GFRR fans ARE READY for!!! --- If they go to this kind of sound... or very close to what made them FAMOUS...... they would make MANY people happy...... then they would get my generation --- Gen X ---- on track with the Train!!! ----- therefore -- they would GRAP hold of my generation.... and the GFRR legacy will "live" on forsure!! 2nd thing ---- I agree with the people here at roadkill..... SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH PROMOTING GFRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can not find ANYTHING on GFRR (on CD) and no one knows how to get the stuff, because either its out of print or its on a very small label... so it will take forever to get!! MESSAGE TO CAPITAL RECORDS ------ GET OFF YOUR @$$!!!! "of course that's only my opinion -- I could be wrong," as Dennis Miller would say. okay - I'll leave you with that for today........ sorry if I offended anyone.. my intention was not to do so..... it was to simply release my thoughts and some anger on what I think is wrong with everything........ and to hopefully motivate!! so please--- GET THIS THING ON THE MOVE!! so we can "Get back in" :)))))) later ---- your Gen X GFR faithfull I agree with almost everything you said, and I compliment your music taste. I love Alice and Chines, metalicia, peral jam, nirvana, etc., totally raw jamming tunes. I also agree that I hope GFR's new relases kick ass like the early power trio days. The only thing i disagree on is the 80 funk albums, i like both of them. Re listen, check out No reason Why, Green of man, tesatify, el salavdor, and still waitin. Not raw like the early days (which are the best), but not bad. take care and keep Funking. Rick ; ) ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:51:33 -0700 Subject: Re: I also do not have Java (would sanka, folgers, or chase & sanborn work?). I operate under Win 95. ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:57:35 -0700 Subject: Re: CRAIG FROST TNUCFred, I basically agree, kindof. I agree that Craig Frost was very capable, but not irreplacable. After all he didn't sing lead on any songs, wasn't the front man, and didn't write many (if any) of the songs that comprise their live act, today. On the other hand, I like the "fuller" sound they get with a keyboard player. It does help the live sound. Their older songs sound great with the added sound of the keyboard. Oh well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 22:04:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Update: Ringo/Farner CD Guys, Guys, Remember, Mark is working on about only 80% of his remaining spine!!! Allow me to remove a couple of discs and see how many backflips, splits, guitar throws, back of head touchs butt hole, that you will do. Not to mention that he is not 22 years old anymore. Cut the man some slack. I'm sure he will still dance, hop, slide, and boggie alot better than I can and he is a few years older than me! Gotta go, Jim ------------------------------ From: "w.d. jones" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:19:36 -0700 Subject: Re: What's Funk? James Lichtenberg wrote: > > Your generation is also influenced by Marilyn Manson, the > antichrist. Sadly, God is being systematically removed from our society > and Manson is at the forefront of the movement. I think that your > generation has been adversely affected by the vomit that is splewed out > of the television set 24 hours a day and the fact that many more of your > generation come from one or no parent families as compared to the 1970's > family structures. Sorry to get political, but I think that you Gen Xers > are at a big disadvantage with the state of society today. Gee I can't believe it my mom must be online! I'll be 40 in a month and all the above was thrown at me for liking GFR/KISS/BLACK SABBATH/ LED ZEP/PINK FLOYD...In the 70s people were saying the same stuff about religion and familily values compared to the 50s...of course the 60s were left out because that was the generation of "free love"...I think you GEn Xers are actually no different than any generation...its just that as people age they tend to forget where they came from...I'm glad you're influenced by GfR...and keep that wide variety of music going...my library ranges from Andres Segovia to ZZTop/Zappa! "CHILDREN TODAY ARE TYRANTS. THEY CONTRADICT THEIR PARENTS, GOBBLE THEIR FOOD, AND TYRANNIZE THEIR TEACHERS" ----SOCRATES 470-399 BC ------------------------------ From: frankbauer@thevine.net Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:13:44 -0800 Subject: Re: What's Funk? >library ranges from Andres Segovia to ZZTop/Zappa! i file my segovia under "S" =8) frank to: IN:spine1@worldnet.att.net cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com ------------------------------ From: "w.d. jones" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:11:12 -0700 Subject: Re: What's Funk? frankbauer@thevine.net wrote: > > >library ranges from Andres Segovia to ZZTop/Zappa! > > i file my segovia under "S" =8) > > frank > > to: IN:spine1@worldnet.att.net > cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com Actually I do to Frank but AC/DC to ZZ doesn't quite get the message across of variety...I also like the stuff inthe middle...my wifes Indigo Girls stuff and my sons' Hansons tape...lol bill ------------------------------ From: bluetuna@webtv.net (Rand Kelly) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:35:32 -0700 Subject: Re:Java 2 chat? WEB TV can't either yet. But with Microsoft footing the bill(pun unintentional) I think we will eventually have all that cool stuff. Is it possible to have a non-java link for the rest of us? peace,Rand Kelly ------------------------------ From: "Carl Bratcher" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:32:51 +1000 Subject: Re: What's Funk? Jim, Well said, well said indeed "10 points for bein' spot on" specially 'bout R&R American Style, personally I'd like to hear some opinions on "Borderline" I think that's a top track.. Later all Carl - ---------- > From: James Lichtenberg > To: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: What's Funk? > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 1997 5:27 PM > > Youngun401@aol.com wrote: > > Being that I'm 21..... that places's me in "generation X." And being > > influnced by not only GFR... but by Metallica, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, > > Soundgarden, Guns-N-Roses, pearl jam, etc.... > > anyways.. my point...... their comeback albums in the 80s... "GF lives" and > > "what funk?" (which lost the funk in that album for sure..... so the title > > fits!) > > Dear Beau, > I know I'm in the minority, but I like "What's Funk?" and I listen > to it more than I listen to any of the early albums. I think if "R&R > American Style" had been properly promoted it could have been a hit > single. Your generation is also influenced by Marilyn Manson, the > antichrist. Sadly, God is being systematically removed from our society > and Manson is at the forefront of the movement. I think that your > generation has been adversely affected by the vomit that is splewed out > of the television set 24 hours a day and the fact that many more of your > generation come from one or no parent families as compared to the 1970's > family structures. Sorry to get political, but I think that you Gen Xers > are at a big disadvantage with the state of society today. Your letter > just got me going a little bit. Thanks for your letter & time and I hope > to talk soon. Later. > > Respectfully Submitted > Jim ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 03:58:17 -0400 Subject: Gen X Wasn't Generation X a punk band in the late 70's or early 80's with Billy Idol as the singer. Sorry all this talk about Gen X, I just had to say that. Peace...Sam Keep on Rockin Generation X er's! I love the Power trio sound. But I am bias I played guitar in a power trio for 10 yrs. ------------------------------ From: STAATS Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:51:48 -0400 Subject: GFR ? Hello Fellow Funkheads, I have a question about GFR that I always wanted to know but could never find the anwser in all my readings. How long was GFR together (MARK, Don and Mel) before the 1969 Atlanta Pop Festival? it could not have been very long - I would guess less than a year. ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 10:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR ? to all of the funkfaithful to the best of my knowledge and according to several sources the atlanta pop festival was their second live appearance! in fact the night before or two nights before they did their big unveiling of the new name "grand funk railroad" at mt holly which is just a few miles up the road from pine knob! but as i understand it the old band the fabulous pack, which i had encountered in the summer of 68, had run out of steam in the winter of 68-69 out on cape cod! at which point terry to the rescue = screw em forevermore! but he told em what to do and the first thing was new name and downsize to the power trio! so they recruited mel and rehearsed throughout the "springtimeeeeeeeeee had to make a dimeeeeeeeeee" while terry worked behind the scenes! after the mt holly icebreaker gig they loaded up the gear for the trip to georgia (which included a trailer loosing a wheel so their gear all didnt make it to the show ! but they did make it just in time to play for "185,000 people in 110 degrees in the shade and people liked this assembley line rock outta flint michigan and asked us back for like 5 encores!" this is per mark 4/3/97!!! now you know the rest of the story! or hopefully at least more of the story!! carry on all you funk faithfull g ------------------------------ From: Nancy Barravecchio Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:18:51 -0400 Subject: Jamm Session Hey Everybody, Nancy here just thought you might want to know about Mick, Bobby, and Smittys status in the studio. Just finished listening to the cassette made from the boards and what a smile I have! skow,cth, time machine, heartbreaker, mean mistreater, all coming together very very well. After only two sessions, if things keep going the way they are I really think the boys will not be able to hold off from playing out by late August! Not sure what they are going to call themselves how about some input from their soon to be favorite fans? Any comments........Peace and Love In Love and Light, Nancy B. ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #72 *******************************