From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #68 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Friday, 30 May 1997 Volume 01 : Number 068 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L. Babbin" Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:37:45 -0400 Subject: Survival for sale !! Hi folks, no word on the others I mentioned recently but Survival was re-released in Japan this week. (No bonus tracks) If anyone is interested please email me !!! Cost is $27 including postage. Hope to meet some of you if/when GFR makes it to New Jersey !! All the best Larry ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 08:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Roll Call Because of the many *unsubscribers*....and so many have not written in a while, could I trouble the readers to direct a personal REPLY to me (so not to clutter the Roadkill mail).... the response should be: *GFR!* HEY! 48 days to Little Rock....this is taking longer than Christmas! *All my life I have been waiting, and you turn me on Now there'll be no hesitating, I'm gettin' into the sun!* Joe ------------------------------ From: JOHN PETITT Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 07:08:40 -0500 Subject: 4/25/97 Beacon video, ABC In Concert and other live stuff!!! Yo Funkers, I will be getting a Beacon video sometime by the end of the weekend. It was shot from the balcony, and is very close and in Hi-Fi. My copy is coming right from the master. Anyone out there who wants it just let me know and we'll work it out. Also waiting to get from my contact in Canada the ABC In Concert video!!!. Hold tight this one may take a while for me to get. Also getting 10 or so shows on cassette from '70-'75, including the FM broadcast of the 12/72 ABC In Concert. Anyone interested in any of these let me know at my home E-Mail address: Jaypfunk@aol.com Jay GFR Rules! And always remember to F@$K those critics!!!! ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:03:18 -0400 Subject: MTV & VH1 e-mail addresses I can't seem to find any e-mail address for MTV or VH1. I want to e-mail them, requesting that they play Grand Funk. Do any of you have their address? Tigger2 ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:59:41 -0600 (MDT) Subject: More from the Cat Cave... Post to roadkill: Hey Everybody! How's all that funk chat going? From what Phil's been sending me it still sounds great. You see, he's my editor, so if he deems it unimportant 'I'll never see it. I really miss being able to comment on stuff "right away". Sometimes my feedback is totally stale......Anyway..... I've gotta jump right in on the "Brewer triplet" stuff. Way back in eight grade when I first heard TNUC off the LIVE Album as a fledgling drummer I was amazed that you could actually do triplets between your hands and feet! What a revelation! From that moment on I practiced and practiced the TNUC triplets. I know you guys are saying that nobody, man nor beast, can play these things as fast and clean as Donny. I'm not going to dispute that, but what I am going to do is ask all you Donnywannabees (including myself) to "brush up" on your technique for the 'FEST. Let's see how fast and clean we can actually get them! Live, up close and personal! In the past I had them to an acceptable speed (ask Phil), but lately I've been able to push the envelope using a newly acquired Dave Weckl technique. These suckers are moving!!! Not that doing triplets at the speed of light proves anything, it's just something to do! Hey Parrette have you been working on yours? And how about you Backstage Al Not? JFunk, TNUCFred care to comment? Since Phil is on "the Weckl Plan" also, I expect his triplets will be up to snuff by 'FEST time. We'll have a dueling CAT Trip--off!!! Speaking of the '98RKFF, I had Bobby (MF clone) and Nancy (and Tyler, their 3-yr old son) over for a BBQ this past Monday. The feedback I'm getting is that they both approve of the location. Oh, and I can attest to the fact that Nancy makes one KILLER apple pie! That thing was gone by breakfast time Tues. We had real good weather to picture the party taking place. They both saw where the bands would set up and where the campsites would be, etc. We even discussed the porta-potties. Tues and Wed I cleared out some more land and stacked a PILE of firewood for your burning pleasure. Ever go camping with Phil? Well let me tell you, he's the bonfire king. Just don't burn the house down (although Phil said it would make good kindling). So, I see Donna posted those pix I sent her. Hope you guys enjoyed seeing all our mugs along with Mark, Don, Mel and Co. Man, what a good time, I wish that it never ended. As you may know Bobby and I are going into the studio next Tues to start our GFR copy band. We've been having a problem finding a permanent bass player. At least we've got TWO, count 'em, TWO GFR bass players to sit in with us in the mean time. I just got confirmation today that Smitty (bass player from my old band HST and Funkfan) will be there next Tues.! You don't know how happy this makes me (and Bobby when he finds out). I'm running him over a copy of the LIVE Album so he can brush up. Smitty will be at '98RKFF as the bass player--vocalist in our house band HST. And of course he's gonna jam with me and Bobby! The other bassman goes by the name of T-bone; another Funkfan--he got me into Funk in the first place and we played in a few bands together way back. He's really good, I mean REALLY GOOD. He's moving to FLA this summer, but promises he's gonna try to make it back up to NY for the party. In the meantime he's gonna do a few sessions with us in the studio. Is this a dream come true or what? What's this about a NYC GFR video? Anyone know any more about this? I received a gift package in the mail the other day from my boot-leg man. It was an audio of the Beacon show. I don't know where he got it, but it's in my cassette player now! The quality is not bad, but I would say a copy of this copy wouldn't be so good. Thanks man -- you know who you are!!! We had it blasting here at work this morning. One thing I did notice though, the songs seemed slower than ususal. Still great stuff, I love this. The Gas-n-Oil Guy says he can't sing or play, but he's gonna Brew a batch of Grand Funk Ale Road for all of us to sample. Sounds like we'll a few homebrews to sample. This keeps getting better.... King Frank -- welcome about our chat train. Good intro, looks like you belong, doesn't matter when you originally boarded the train, you're on. Any relation to TUT? He posts now and again. Stan -- We've made progress, we (my wife and I) actually logged on at home last week. We're discussing an Internet provider....so, hopefully, soon I'll be back online. It'll be from home though, not work. I'll be joining the "late nite ranks". Keep it Rockin' MCat (Mick) ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 22:02:25 +0200 Subject: MTV -feed us- address The internet address for MTV is: http://www.mtv.com/index2.html Go to the News part, and "feed us". You can send them a message on line. Nico. ------------------------------ From: ktut@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 15:58:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Fwd: Re: More from the Cat Cave... - ------Begin forward message------------------------- From: ktut To: catalano@medusa.cs.mci.com Date: 05/29/97 16:56:54 Message-Id: <1997529165654518467@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: More from the Cat Cave... X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.20, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. On 05/29/97 11:59:41 Mick wrote: > > >Post to roadkill: > >Hey Everybody! > >King Frank -- welcome about our chat train. Good intro, looks like you >belong, doesn't matter when you originally boarded the train, you're on. >Any relation to TUT? He posts now and again. > Actually, I have a cousin named Frank King, he's my favorite cousin, and a bank president. (and my loan(s)officer), not that that's why he's my favorite or anything. >Stan -- We've made progress, we (my wife and I) actually logged on at home >last week. We're discussing an Internet provider....so, hopefully, soon >I'll be back online. It'll be from home though, not work. I'll be joining >the "late nite ranks". Hurry back, Mick. >Keep it Rockin' >MCat (Mick) king tut - ------End forward message--------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 17:06:06 -0400 Subject: Re: MTV -feed us- address Nico, I've sent my message to MTV. Told them they were missing a very important band and asked that they add tour info and get them some TV time! Stan At 22:02 5/29/97 +0200, you wrote: >The internet address for MTV is: >http://www.mtv.com/index2.html > >Go to the News part, and "feed us". >You can send them a message on line. > >Nico. > > > > Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Ron Collins Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:20:21 -0500 Subject: Re: MTV -feed us- address Stan Pace wrote: > > Nico, > > I've sent my message to MTV. Told them they were missing a very important > band and asked that they add tour info and get them some TV time! > > Stan > > At 22:02 5/29/97 +0200, you wrote: > >The internet address for MTV is: > >http://www.mtv.com/index2.html > > > >Go to the News part, and "feed us". > >You can send them a message on line. > > > >Nico. > > > > > > > > > Stan Pace > U.S. Atlantic Command > Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center I've sent mine too! GFR is the greatest band that ever played. Ron Collins rcollins@netdoor.com ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 17:55:08 -0400 Subject: Tapes of show I want to put together a list of all the shows currently out there on audio and video tape. If we had a master list, I think it would help all of us. Please e-mail me privately with your list of shows. Try to include the set list, date, where it was recorded, and the quality. Thanks, Tigger2 ------------------------------ From: TNUCFred@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 19:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Roll Call GFR! ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Found a web site I was doing some searching on the web and found this site. The 1st GFR Homepage Aparently this site has been around for quite a while. You can even chat on this thing! I'm not sure if some of you may already know about this "new discovery", but I have not seen this site mentioned on anyone elses web page. If I'm a late bloomer please don't crucify me. Later, Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:53:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Found a web site Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > > I was doing some searching on the web and found this site. > > The 1st GFR Homepage > > Aparently this site has been around for quite a while. You can even chat on > this thing! I'm not sure if some of you may already know about this "new > discovery", but I have not seen this site mentioned on anyone elses web page. > If I'm a late bloomer please don't crucify me. > > Later, > Paul > Bass6plyr@aol.com Hi Paul: Yeah, I knew about this site. I couldn't get into it most of the time, and for the last month or so, the site was down. I just checked it out and it appears that Carl redesigned his entire site...and I must say, it is quite elaborate! Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 21:01:19 -0400 Subject: Re: MORE LIVE FUNK!! Bugsy41157@aol.com wrote: > > Jimmy G wrote: > >Bugsy..Nice to hear from ya. Yeah, that would be great...maybe we could > >organize a roadkill get together at some watering hole in Cleveland or > >Toledo. I already got our plane tics...I still need to plan out our > >hotels, etc. We plan on doing 4 days...hope to see both Funk concerts > >and hit Sea World, Cedar Point, etc. > > > > Jimmy G. > > > > > Hey Jim, > > Let's keep in touch on this. Obviously, tickets are a priority. Once we've > secured them, the rest will be cake. Then we can have the Cleveland version > of the Westside! > > Bugsy...Alrighta! > > PS...Did that secretary of yours bring in any other good stuff yet? Hey Bugsy: Yeah, the Cleveland version of the Westside would be great! I'm keeping my eyes for any Ohio ticket info....nothing yet. If I find anything I'll let you know. Martha couldn't find any more Funk albums that her ex-scum bag husband left behind..."only" got the double live album and Closer to Home..Oh well, maybe one of the other girls will get divorced. Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 23:47:28 -0400 Subject: Tape traders page I found a really neat tape trades page. It is dedicated to any bands that allow their fans to record concerts. Traders have a central location to get shows they couldn't go to. The bands themselves make the rules. For example, if they don't want video recorders, they will post it. Some do not allow "commercial" uses of tapes - trade, don't sell. They make all their own rules. The concert goers are expected to follow the rules. I know I would. After all, I would like to be able to record them the next time I saw them. The address is: http://tapetrading.com/ I will be sending a message to Sunny with the hope that she passes the idea on to the band. Who knows...maybe they never stopped to think about it from our point of view. Tigger2 ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:08:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Grand Funk Railroad Dear Guys (and Gals), Here is some more of the bologna that I'm receiving from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It might help if we started peppering "The Foundation" at with email. No one has donated anything related to Grand Funk. I thought that was the problem all along! I guess that 20 million records won't do it. I'll write the director and post later. If we make enough of a stink, they'll have to take notice. Later Regards, Jim > From: James Lichtenberg > To: Marcus Brown > Date: Thursday, May 29, 1997 1:08 AM > Subject: Grand Funk Railroad > > Dear Marcus, > Marcus Brown wrote: > > The Foundation's nominating committee, composed of rock and roll > > historians, selects nominees each year in the Performer category. > > Ballots are sent to an international voting body of about 1,000 rock > > experts. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes, and > > more than 50% of the vote, are inducted. The Foundation generally > > inducts five to seven performers each year. > > > > The nominating committee annually elects the inductees in the > > Non-Performer and Early Influence categories. > > > > I am sure in the future that Grand Funk will be inducted... > > > > Dear Marcus, > Thanks for responding to my Grand Funk inquiry. I am a member of > the Official Grand Funk Railroad Fan Club and I appreciate your time. > I am not so sure that Grand Funk will be inducted in the future. A > member of our Fan Club was at The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame recently > and informed all the members that there are absolutely zero references > to Grand Funk in The Hall. This is virtually unbelievable! This band > has sold over 20 million albums and sold out Shea Stadium in 1971 > faster than the Beatles! Would it be possible for me to get email > addresses for your Director and for the members of the Foundation's > Nominating Committee? Thanks, Marcus. I look forward to hearing from > you. > > Sincerely, > Jim Lichtenberg > lichtj@mhv.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > The best I can do is direct you to director@rockhall.com. Please keep > in mind that the majority of the items here at the museum was donated. > And also that we do have some items in storage and will display them > as we change out different exhibts. I can not say for sure if any > thing from Grand Funk is in storage. ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: MORE LIVE FUNK!! hi gang! i agree a westside encore!!!!!!!!!! tho as sunny says these few shows may well wait til sept! (need to have something to sell? ) and a friend of mine stopped by from nyc and guess what he laid on me? mint survival w/ pics, gsgp,atgitwb,gfhits,and live album!!! he got em all for $20! i wish things would heat up!! to quiet for me.. g listen everybodyyyyyyyyyyyyy nice job w pics from the shows!! bravo! verve pipe on leno...typical slap in the face! b4 the last chords .....thanks guys brb... ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 07:05:41 +0200 Subject: Re: Found a web site Hi Paul, >I was doing some searching on the web and found this site. >http://www.rpi.net.au/~loki/grand-funk/index.html Did you check out the Sound byte's part? If you have the Real Audio software you can download and play a part of two of my guitar arrangements, "Loneliness" and "Heart breaker" (if you're interested of course) I once send the sound files to Roy Long, made a joke about posting it on his and Carl's site. It was posted next morning. CU, Nico. ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 05:06:40 -0400 Subject: Guitar players Hey all you guitar players out there! I got a few trivia questions for you. What kind of guitar did Mark play in the early 70's? What amp did he use? And does anyone know what kind of effects he used? Peace... Sam the Guitarman ##=====(GFR) ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 05:09:55 -0400 Subject: GFR concert tapes? Hi all! Does anyone know if any tapes exits from the Lives tour or What's Funk tour? I would love to get ahold of one. Thanks... Peace...Sam the Guitarman ##==== =(GFR) ------------------------------ From: "Bruce E. Fairbank" Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 05:54:36 -0500 Subject: Re:Roll Call GFR! ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 00:09:26 -0400 Subject: Taping concerts Sunny, Would you please pass on an idea to Don, Mel, and Mark? There is a page on the internet dedicated to bands that allow taping at their shows. These bands realize that the people trading tapes of shows are not doing it for money, but for the love of that band. They also know that only the dedicated fans will be the ones doing the trading. I feel that if every band allowed taping at their shows, the bootleggers would die a very fast death. Please check the site out at: http://tapetrading.com/ Another idea would be for the band themselves to record every show from the sound board, and make them available to only to a select group (maybe the Roadkill group, or maybe the band can start a fan club again). That way, only the true diehard fans would get the tapes. I would be happy to volunteer my time to make duplications of tapes for the loyal. I know there will be an official live CD coming out in August, but as I said earlier, I feel only the diehard fans will be interested in every show. The general CD buying public would be interested only in the official release, not harming its sales potential. Thanks again for your time, Tom Roberts ------------------------------ From: JOHN PETITT Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 06:46:38 -0500 Subject: Mystery CD -Reply That CD is actually the re-issue of All the Girls... from Japan. Jay a.k.a.-Jaypfunk@aol.com ------------------------------ From: kingf@theherald.southam.ca Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:37:56 -0600 Subject: Funk article... Yo Funkheads: found this while cruising the wire here at the newspaper where I work. Nothing really new in it, but fun to read anyway. Enjoy.... Frank King Calgary, Alberta By Mary Campbell

NEW YORK (AP) Ä Grand Funk Railroad, one of the most commercially successful and critically scorned American rock bands of the early 1970s, is back on track. This month the reunited original trio, now middle-aged, performed in Japan and they'll start across America on June 26. In the 1970s, Grand Funk's music was called hard rock. By today's standards it's medium-hard rock. Are they sticking to their old style? "We're going to let everybody be who they are, let it become what it's going to become," says drummer Don Brewer. "It's still the chemistry of the same three dudes," adds singer-guitarist Mark Farner. "We're maturer. Hopefully we're better musicians." In late April and early May, Grand Funk Railroad played benefit dates in Detroit, New York and Los Angeles for the Bosnian Relief Fund. They'll also tour in Europe, performing in Sarajevo on Sept. 19. Grand Funk Railroad was named for the Grand Trunk and Western Railroad which went through their native Michigan. Farner and Brewer, both 48, were born in Flint and bassist Mel Schacher, two years younger, was born in Owasso. Their first gig was in Buffalo, N.Y., in March 1969. In July that year the group played at the Atlanta Pop Festival and their career took off like a bullet train. Capitol Records signed the group and they started making two LPs a year, touring constantly. "We were the garage band down the street that made it," Brewer says. "We were able to take that feel and sound and make it to the big time. I think people really identified with that." The three were said to be millionaires, but as often happens in the rock business, big money joined with youthful inexperience brought big problems. Manager Terry Knight believed in hype. He rented the world's largest billboard, in Times Square, for Grand Funk Railroad, the first time it ever had advertised a rock act. The musicians thought that much of the criticism heaped on Grand Funk Railroad was really aimed at Knight. "Audiences loved us. Critics loved to hate us," Brewer says. "They objected to Knight taking the posture that he was the reason we were big stars. He created the image of three puppets doing what he ordered." In March 1972, Grand Funk Railroad decided to part ways with Knight. He filed $60 million in lawsuits. "We settled out of court. We gave him everything he asked for," Farner says. "Our lawyers told us, "You can end up staying off the road for three years or you can settle, pick up your name and career and move on,'" Brewer says. "We did it. We were broke. Flat broke." The band, which added a keyboard player in 1972, made hit records again, with its last album produced by Frank Zappa. After that, in 1976, they stopped, not strung out on dope, not fighting. "We had a conversation early in our career and said if we don't feel comfortable, we won't push things," Schacher says. "Disco was coming in. We didn't think we should struggle along." In the years after they broke up, they kept in touch. In 1993 the three started talking about reuniting Grand Funk Railroad. "It was at the beginning of this heritage-act comeback," Brewer says. "Everybody was looking to try to get bands back together." But, Brewer says, they were wary this time. "We checked out promoters," he says. "We didn't want to get ourselves into a bad situation." CP 1015ES 30-05-97 ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 10:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Found a web site Hi all, On Thu, 29 May 1997 Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > I was doing some searching on the web and found this site. > > The 1st GFR Homepage > > Aparently this site has been around for quite a while ... I won't "crucify you" Paul, ;-) but Carl and his site are a "sore point" with a few of the members of this list. It's a long and involved story and if you're really curious perhaps I can find some time off-list to tell you some of the detail. Let's just say that Donna Wightman, Jeff Cochran, and myself would rather not talk about this particular site. I understand that you can't grok in fullness without more in- formation but that's about all I want to say on-list. Feel free to discuss it -- it is Grand Funk related -- just don't expect a lot of input from some of us "old timers." Take care and keep Shinin' On ... Bill-- ....who believes pro is to con as progress is to Congress. (42) o o o o +--------------------------+--------------------------+ _____ ---- o ----+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | ]OO|_n_n__][. | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| _|__|________)< | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | oo OOOO-| oo\\ | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Ray Thiesen Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 09:51:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: introduction / GFR tributes? Hi Funkers, Ray from Middletown, CT here. I just joined the list last week. It's great to see there's so many fans still dedicated to the band after all these years. I've been a fan for nearly 25 years now, with the Live Album being my introduction to GFR. I saw this on the Matthew Sweet list the other day: >> I may be doing a telephone interview with MS today (Tuesday May 27). >> >> Any questions folks on the list would like answered? Stuff folks have been >> wondering, perhaps arguing about that you'd like an answer on? > >Sure, I have a couple: > > Any plans to work with: > Lloyd Cole (especially since Lloyd is in UK right now) > Richard Lloyd > Robert Quine > Fred Maher > Golden Palominos > ? > > Would you consider releasing as a single: > Back To You > Behind The Smile > All Over My Head > Ultrasuede > ? >----> Were the rhythm and instrumental break from "Back To You" >----> intentionally lifted from Grand Funk's "Bad Time"? > > Are you enjoying yourself ? > > Are you pleased with the reception of the album? > > Finally, please wish him well and tell him to "go get 'em!" > >Vince D > I have the new Matthew Sweet disc but I can't say that I picked up on the Grand Funk reference. I'll have to listen again. Speaking of GFR references, has anyone heard the "Nickel Bag" remix of Filter's "Hey Man Nice Shot"? I sounds like a tribute to GFR because the bass line throughout the song is the same as the bass line at the beginning of "Nothing Is The Same". Has anyone else heard this? Sorry if this has already been discussed, as the song came out last year. Finally, I've seen lots of references to live videos and cassettes on the list. I don't have anything but the official releases at this point but if anyone out there is willing to trade for some of those rarities I'd love to hear from you! Ray ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:05:59 -0400 Subject: Re: GFR concert tapes? Sam LeMaster wrote: > > Hi all! > Does anyone know if any tapes exits from the Lives tour or What's Funk > tour? I would love to get ahold of one. Thanks... > > > Peace...Sam the Guitarman > > ##==== > =(GFR) I have a copy of 'Lives' somewhere in this pile of stuff. Believe it is on a tape with a 1970 concert in Hawaii. I'll let you know when I find if someone else doesn't find it first. Funkola ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 11:35:06 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Missing History] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------2C98B4CD45D99D202967C9A1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a copy of what I sent to the director at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Let's all do what Jim suggested and try to get this injustice corrected. - -=Mike=- Mike Butler wrote: > Dear Sir, > > Having been a resident of Northeast Ohio (Wooster, OH) for 37 years > before relocating to Las Vegas. I am completely aware of the history > associated with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. > > Given the past snubs and jokes that the fine City of Cleveland has > received by the national media, I talk about the Rock & Roll Hall of > Fame with great pride (along with the Indians). > > My appreciation of Rock Music was shaped and molded by the band Grand > Funk Railroad way back in 1971. The hard driving music they created > was > unique at the time and from that point on I was 'hooked' on hard rock. > > To my amazement, I have noticed that Grand Funk Railroad is virtually > 'missing in action' at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I understand the > induction process and hope they will be inducted soon. > > However the band is responsible for several milestones in rock history > > that should be noted somewhere in your exhibits if nothing else. The > selling out of Shea Stadium in 1971 faster than the Beatles has to > this > day never been matched, even with the computerized ticketing systems > now > in place. They were also the first band to get their own 'label' from > Capital Records and I also believe they were the first 'American Band' > > to get 10 consecutive platinum albums back to back. > > Don't you agree these significant events in Rock & Roll history > deserve > some credit and recognition at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame? > > I know you probably get contacted by fans wanting their favorite band > to > be inducted or mentioned at the Hall. Grand Funk Railroads > achievements > are very real and are deserving of additional research on the part of > you and your staff. > > If I can be of any assistance in connecting your researchers to the > band > and their management please let me know. > > Thank You, > > Mike Butler > 93 Desert Rain LN > Henderson, NV 89014 > (702) 695-7039 - --------------2C98B4CD45D99D202967C9A1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <338F0EDF.B83468B3@vegasnet.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 11:31:11 -0700 From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Reply-To: 1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net Organization: notfound X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: director@rockhall.com Subject: Missing History X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Sir, Having been a resident of Northeast Ohio (Wooster, OH) for 37 years before relocating to Las Vegas. I am completely aware of the history associated with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Given the past snubs and jokes that the fine City of Cleveland has received by the national media, I talk about the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame with great pride (along with the Indians). My appreciation of Rock Music was shaped and molded by the band Grand Funk Railroad way back in 1971. The hard driving music they created was unique at the time and from that point on I was 'hooked' on hard rock. To my amazement, I have noticed that Grand Funk Railroad is virtually 'missing in action' at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I understand the induction process and hope they will be inducted soon. However the band is responsible for several milestones in rock history that should be noted somewhere in your exhibits if nothing else. The selling out of Shea Stadium in 1971 faster than the Beatles has to this day never been matched, even with the computerized ticketing systems now in place. They were also the first band to get their own 'label' from Capital Records and I also believe they were the first 'American Band' to get 10 consecutive platinum albums back to back. Don't you agree these significant events in Rock & Roll history deserve some credit and recognition at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame? I know you probably get contacted by fans wanting their favorite band to be inducted or mentioned at the Hall. Grand Funk Railroads achievements are very real and are deserving of additional research on the part of you and your staff. If I can be of any assistance in connecting your researchers to the band and their management please let me know. Thank You, Mike Butler 93 Desert Rain LN Henderson, NV 89014 (702) 695-7039 - --------------2C98B4CD45D99D202967C9A1-- ------------------------------ From: kingf@theherald.southam.ca Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 13:16:16 -0600 Subject: GFR in Ice This is in the June/97 issue of ICE, the monthly CD newsletter: "The CD watchdog gets a fairly substantial number of complaints and inquiries about Grand Funk Railroad's catalog. This latest letter from an Ice Reader is indicative of the comments: "I want to know if Capitol is going to do anything about the horrendous quality of the GFR remasters. Capitol has done an absolute injustice to that catalog. I just got an e-mail from a GFR website manager stating that he had to take old, sealed copies of the LPs and make CD master out of those. He said that they sounded way better! I undertand that Capitol, at first, was goig to release the majority of GFR's catalog, but upon disappointing sales, draw back the plans and still to this day have not released On Time, Grand Funk, Survival, Live and Pheonix . Maybe if Capitol were to re-remaster the GFR catalog the way it should be done, sales would go up. Something should be done." Ice brought the matter to Denis Skinner, a consultant for the newly-formed EMI-Capitol Entertainment Properties, which is dealing with that conglomerate's rich catalog. Skinner told us that the company is "trying to get the rest of the catalog out in a timely fashion" and is hoping for a July 1 release for On Time, with others to follow "quickly". As for upgrading the existing titles, including Caught In The Act, which actually has a gap in one of the songs where the old vinyl album changed sides - Skinner says "there is some consideration being given to it. They're going to gave to go through a long, arduous process to bring them up to the audio quality that I think everyone is anticipating." Hmm. Interesting. But considering how Capitol has shit on the catalog for so many endless years, I ain't about to hold my breath waiting for things to change. And I'm sure not about to get excited about EVER seeing the MCA or Full Moon titles! Frank King Calgary, Alberta ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:18:49 -0700 Subject: Del Mar Concert Hey Folks, Just got my tickets for Del Mar...I know I should have got them earlier. any way I will be in Level 2, box, box 29h Row 1. anyone out there no if these seats are any good or should I bring a kleenex for my nose bleed tom tom-span@pacbell.net ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 15:41:55 -0400 Subject: Re: GFR in Ice Frank, Thanks for the info. If you take this into account with comments from members of the band and from others close to them, the pieces of the puzzle start to come together. If it turns out to be true, I am very happy that On Time is the first one coming out. I hate to disappoint anyone else in our "family", but I have always felt that On Time should have been near the top of the list. It was the basis for all that followed. I am hopeful that the required remastering will be done. I keep remembering something my parents used to say about " do it well or don't do it at all...". Hopefully, the interval between the rest of the CDs will be short. Peace, Stan At 13:16 5/30/97 -0600, you wrote: >This is in the June/97 issue of ICE, the monthly CD newsletter: > >"The CD watchdog gets a fairly substantial number of complaints and >inquiries about Grand Funk Railroad's catalog. This latest letter from an Ice >Reader is indicative of the comments: "I want to know if Capitol is going to >do anything about the horrendous quality of the GFR remasters. Capitol has >done an absolute injustice to that catalog. I just got an e-mail from a GFR >website manager stating that he had to take old, sealed copies of the LPs and >make CD master out of those. He said that they sounded way better! I >undertand that Capitol, at first, was goig to release the majority of GFR's >catalog, but upon disappointing sales, draw back the plans and still to this >day have not released On Time, Grand Funk, Survival, Live and Pheonix speak of the newer albums - Frank>. Maybe if Capitol were to re-remaster the >GFR catalog the way it should be done, sales would go up. Something should >be done." >Ice brought the matter to Denis Skinner, a consultant for the newly-formed >EMI-Capitol Entertainment Properties, which is dealing with that >conglomerate's rich catalog. Skinner told us that the company is "trying to >get the rest of the catalog out in a timely fashion" and is hoping for a July >1 release for On Time, with others to follow "quickly". As for upgrading the >existing titles, including Caught In The Act, which actually has a gap in one >of the songs where the old vinyl album changed sides - Skinner says "there is >some consideration being given to it. They're going to gave to go through a >long, arduous process to bring them up to the audio quality that I think >everyone is anticipating." > > >Hmm. Interesting. But considering how Capitol has shit on the catalog for so >many endless years, I ain't about to hold my breath waiting for things to >change. And I'm sure not about to get excited about EVER seeing the MCA or >Full Moon titles! > >Frank King >Calgary, >Alberta > > Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Mike Adair Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 16:05:50 -0700 Subject: Re: GFR in Ice It's seems logical to release the oldest first, but then again, who cares as long as its DONE. Mike Adair Stan Pace wrote: > > Frank, > > Thanks for the info. If you take this into account with comments from > members of the band and from others close to them, the pieces of the puzzle > start to come together. > > If it turns out to be true, I am very happy that On Time is the first one > coming out. I hate to disappoint anyone else in our "family", but I have > always felt that On Time should have been near the top of the list. It was > the basis for all that followed. I am hopeful that the required remastering > will be done. I keep remembering something my parents used to say about " > do it well or don't do it at all...". Hopefully, the interval between the > rest of the CDs will be short. > > Peace, > > Stan > > At 13:16 5/30/97 -0600, you wrote: > >This is in the June/97 issue of ICE, the monthly CD newsletter: > > > >"The CD watchdog gets a fairly substantial number of complaints and > >inquiries about Grand Funk Railroad's catalog. This latest letter from an Ice > >Reader is indicative of the comments: "I want to know if Capitol is going to > >do anything about the horrendous quality of the GFR remasters. Capitol has > >done an absolute injustice to that catalog. I just got an e-mail from a GFR > >website manager stating that he had to take old, sealed copies of the LPs and > >make CD master out of those. He said that they sounded way better! I > >undertand that Capitol, at first, was goig to release the majority of GFR's > >catalog, but upon disappointing sales, draw back the plans and still to this > >day have not released On Time, Grand Funk, Survival, Live and Pheonix >speak of the newer albums - Frank>. Maybe if Capitol were to re-remaster the > >GFR catalog the way it should be done, sales would go up. Something should > >be done." > >Ice brought the matter to Denis Skinner, a consultant for the newly-formed > >EMI-Capitol Entertainment Properties, which is dealing with that > >conglomerate's rich catalog. Skinner told us that the company is "trying to > >get the rest of the catalog out in a timely fashion" and is hoping for a July > >1 release for On Time, with others to follow "quickly". As for upgrading the > >existing titles, including Caught In The Act, which actually has a gap in one > >of the songs where the old vinyl album changed sides - Skinner says "there is > >some consideration being given to it. They're going to gave to go through a > >long, arduous process to bring them up to the audio quality that I think > >everyone is anticipating." > > > > > >Hmm. Interesting. But considering how Capitol has shit on the catalog for so > >many endless years, I ain't about to hold my breath waiting for things to > >change. And I'm sure not about to get excited about EVER seeing the MCA or > >Full Moon titles! > > > >Frank King > >Calgary, > >Alberta > > > > > Stan Pace > U.S. Atlantic Command > Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:54:52 -0400 Subject: .....that Funky smell into the air? Dear fellow Funkers. Well, I just got home, came in the door, cracked = open a St. Paulies Girl (not as good as some of those British beers), = and was about to reach for some........oh, anyway- all thats = immaterial-let me get to the point. So its like this; All of sudden I = found myself saying "I'm gonna dedicate this song to everyone whose putting that funky smell into the = air". Came to me in a flash for no good reason. Immediately I knew(?) this = statement was enthusiasticly expressed by our muscular hero Mark, = sometime I believe immediately preceeding Inside Looking Out on the LIVE album. So, why is it I never hear it said on my Printed in Hollow cd of = the LIVE album?? Was it cut? Is there a version of the original = exactly duplicated on cd available some where?=20 All discussion and help appreciate. TGFGFR, Leo ------------------------------ From: GRANDFUNKR@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: MORE LIVE FUNK!! I'll have about 10 or so people with me , We'll have to hook up somewhere ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 18:22:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Found a web site Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > > I was doing some searching on the web and found this site. > > The 1st GFR Homepage > > Aparently this site has been around for quite a while. You can even chat on > this thing! I'm not sure if some of you may already know about this "new > discovery", but I have not seen this site mentioned on anyone elses web page. > If I'm a late bloomer please don't crucify me. > Hi Paul, FYI, this site was created within the same few weeks as Bill Parrette's site and mine. All 3 site's have been up since last summer. Jeff Cochran's site went up about a month or two after ours, so we all really had the *1st* GFR web sites. I have my own personal reason's why I don't link Carl's site from my own. I think it's great that he has a chat program on his site, and will check it out to see if I can figure out how he did it, and get one on my site. After all, he *owes* me. Donna ------------------------------ From: GRANDFUNKR@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: new disc from jap Is there any reason they changed the name of it from all the girls in the world ?Also only cd universe lists it , I wonder why ? ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 23:15:05 -0400 Subject: CONCERT SCHEDULE According to Sunny's updated concert listing at her site, the last six concerts in July have been put on hold...this includes the Ohio shows...quite a major bummer, but hey, they might do some more shows later in the year. In any case, Liz & I had planned to do a mini-Ohio vacation this year anyway, so we'll be in the Clevland/Toledo area from 7/25-7/28...I had hoped to do a few funk shows while we were in the area. Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: RCinSinCty@aol.com Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 00:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR concert tapes? 82 concert. yes, Locomotion 82 a dubble live cd from the lives tour. It also has Get funked a bootleg from the 71 closer to home tour on it. I found one copy and never saw it again. The 82 part has the standard songs on it like from caught in the act, plus queen bee, no reason why and weve got to get out of this place, get funked is 45 min has closer to home medly, inneed, parnoid, and are you ready. ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #68 *******************************