From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #66 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Saturday, 24 May 1997 Volume 01 : Number 066 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:32:57 -0700 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED As a probable copyright infringer myself *I'm not admitting anything : )*, my personal opinion about why I havn't been threatened or told to take stuff down off my site is plain and simple; I am not making any money off the site. Now, if I put some kind of commercial banner up there, or start trying to sell something, bet I would get a nasty letter within the week! Donna ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:55:57 -0700 Subject: INSIDE LOOKING OUT O.K. Fuknkssters, I have a couple of questions for you all at roadkill. I heard that "Inside Looking Out" was written by an x Hells Angels Member...possibly at the time an existing member. Also, I remmember seeing Grand Funk at the Forum in about 1970...come to think of it 71 & 72 as well...same place ...the Forum in Los Angeles and the part of the red album where Farner sings in INSIDE LOOKING OUT Mark says "nickle bag" instead of "burlap Bag"...anyone rememmber that Tom Funkster! ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:07:49 -0700 Subject: Update Sunny just updated with good news at http://www.wzzr.com/gfr.html ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:22:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Hmm-mm-mm INtwo, Your absolutely right. Let's discuss more important topics. Such as, Why did Mel wear cement filled shoes on stage? Or, On how many cuts did Mel play an instrument other that the Bass? HHHMMMMMM> Jim ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 21:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Fw: Courtroom humor In a message dated 97-05-22 17:16:53 EDT, joieb@concentric.net (joieb) writes: << I thought maybe a joke would lighten everyone's mood! Laughing again... Lisa (Budrock's wife) > Subject: Courtroom humor > Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 3:55 AM > > The following is a courtroom exchange between a defense attorney and a > farmer with a bodily injury claim. It came from a Houston, Texas insurance > agent. > > Attorney: "At the scene of the accident, did you tell the constable you had > never felt better in your life?" > > Farmer: "That's right." > > Attorney: "Well, then, how is it that you are now claiming you were seriously > injured when my client's auto hit your wagon?" > > Farmer: "When the constable arrived, he went over to my horse, who had a broken > leg, and shot him. Then he went over to Rover, my dog, who was all banged up, > and shot him. When he asked me how I felt, I just thought under the > circumstances, it was a wise choice of words to say I've never felt better in my > life. > >> Farmer??? Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Lady Jade" Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 21:05:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Terry Knight You've made up my mind. If I EVER meet Terry Knight I will kick him right in the nay-nays. He's a grub. He lived a life through Grand Funk, then took that life away. - ---------- > From: steelhorse > To: James Lichtenberg > Cc: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: Re: Terry Knight > Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 8:18 AM > > James Lichtenberg wrote: > > > > jmaijala@sprynet.com wrote: > > Well, not much has been said about the Terry Knight influence on the > > early albums. However, it is quite possible that Mark and the boys would > > have ended up working an assembly line in Dearborn if not for Terry > > Knight. > > > > To all you Terry Knight fans, > > I spoke to one of Farner's roadies after his last Roxy show in > > Huntington, N.Y. and he told me that Mark was broke and lives modestly > > after selling all his assets because of the screwing Terry Knight gave > > GFRR. This guy told me that the I.R.S. had come after Farner big time > > for income taxes owed on the money that Knight stole. I have also heard > > that when GFRR and Knight settled their lawsuit that Knight got all of > > the future royalties from every album up to E Pluribus Funk. One of my > > DJ friends interviewed Farner on 9/28/85 before a show in Rome, N.Y. and > > Farner told my buddy that "Greed Of Man" from GF Lives was written about > > Terry Knight. Here are some of the lyrics from that tune: > > > > Well I don't understand. There's no rhyme or reason. > > I know that freedom, man has no season. > > > > He never stops to think about the other. > > He don't look back to see the damage he's done. > > And if you don't agree, then you don't realize > > he's got you hypnotized. > > You must be mesmerized. > > He's cut you down to size. > > > > I realize that all of this is hearsay. Maybe Sunny can shed some light > > on the veracity of what I've heard. I still think that GFRR would have > > made a splash without Knight. The anecdotal evidence points to Knight as > > being a bad man and if you're bad, you'll die when you die. Later, guys. > > > > Regards, > > Jim > > The I R S came after Mark? I am all too familiar with that feeling. Let > me summarize...."kill me, I'm in hell" (right, Mick?) ------------------------------ From: "Lady Jade" Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 21:13:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Shinin On Even though Knight produced them, doesn't mean he was a sound engineer (probably didn't have the brains) that got the sound in the mix down. I think all he can be credited for is telling Mark to make love to his guitar on stage. - ---------- > From: Michael Dolfi > To: Roverpick@aol.com; grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: RE: Shinin On > Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 10:47 PM > > In regards to Terry Knight, his producing prowess was that of trying out new > sounds, new technics, and a bit of a good buzz probably did not hurt. If you > start with On Time, a crude sounding album, but with the right scratch to lure > you in, a raunchy sound, but then they followed it up with Grand Funk, (the > RED album), a crisp, tight album with little over-dubs. To me, a great > sounding record. NEXT DEBATE- cLOSER TO hOME, sURVIVAL > > ---------- > From: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com on behalf of jmaijala@sprynet.com > Sent: Friday, May 09, 1997 2:57 AM > To: Roverpick@aol.com; grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: re: Shinin On > > Here's an interesting disscussion, > > Some people are saying that the later albums, ie: Shinin' On, were > over-produced > and that the early stuff is better. Well, not much has been said about the > Terry Knight influence on the early albums. I have the feeling that Terry is > not a very popular guy among the GFR faithful. However, it is quite possible > that Mark and the boys would have ended up working an assembly line in > Dearborn > if not for Terry Knight. > > While they did indeed have great difficulties later on, it is an injustice to > disregard his contribution. Alot of people like the Survival album. This was > > done on his watch. Their hardest rocking album, E Pluribus Funk, was the last > > album he produced. > > Yes, yes, he tried to over-control the guys, but is that worse than > overproduce? > Many of us lost interest in GFR after they "Sold Out To the Teeny Boppers". > Well, Terry cultivated the underground image that was a big part of the GFR > mistique. > > Anybody want to comment on this, How about a debate? > > Listening to Closer to Home right now, > > Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: "Lady Jade" Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 21:36:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Capitol CD re-releases Hear hear. Release EVERYTHING.... I heard they do a song live called S.I.N.E.P, as a springboard to T.N.U.C . I've got a magazine picture with article that mentions this. Ever heard about it Funkers? If so has it ever been included on a bootleg (oops, a bad word) or mentioned? - ---------- > From: William A. Parrette > To: sunnyq@wzzr.com > Cc: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: Capitol CD re-releases > Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 10:32 PM > > Hi Sunny, > > You might remember me as the fellow who always writes a "book" > in e-mail. I promise (;-) ) to keep it short this time. On your > station's Web site you had asked all of us Funk-aholics which of > the original Grand Funk vinyl albums that had not yet been re- > leased on CD we would like to see released and in what order. > > Well, as one of the original Grand Funk Web page authors on > the 'Net, I thought I would take a moment and give you my input. > However, my input is colored by over a year's worth of e-mail > communication from GFR fans from around the world. I have an- > swered e-mail messages from hundreds of fans that have asked me > (as if *I* had something to do with it :-) ) when such-and-such > an album is going to be released or where can I find this-and- > that CD. > > So, without too much further ado (ooops! I think I lied in > the first paragraph -- I feel another "book" coming on!!), here > is my input: > > The first album that should be rereleased is Grand Funk (the > "red album"). Without a doubt this is the one album that I have > received the most questions on and seems to be cherished by the > widest variety of fans. This album typifies what made Grand Funk > into Grand Funk and contains some of the more classic tracks that > defined the original sound of the band. > > Second on the list should be Live Album. This is the second > most popular album in terms of e-mail requests that I have re- > ceived. This album captures the classic Grand Funk live perfor- > mance from the early days and is constantly identified as a fa- > vorite among fans. > > This next one goes against your original request in that this > album is already out on CD. But the third CD that should be re- > leased is a remastering of Caught In The Act. I think I can > speak for everybody that I've chatted with about it when I say > that Capitol butchered this release with the editing that they > did. It doesn't matter that it doesn't fit on a single CD -- es- > pecially now with the reunion switched onto the "full-tilt boo- > gie" track. Make it a double CD release with the original intro- > duction, with T.N.U.C. in tact, and any other edits put back in. > > The fourth CD I would suggest also goes against your original > request. But the one *complaint* that I have received most often > in e-mail is that the CD of Closer To Home sounds flat and washed > out when compared to the original vinyl version or even some of > the tracks that have appeared on other compilations such as the > Capitol Collector's Series disc. Personally, I am not an audio- > phile and I don't hear it, but it is something that others have > mentioned to me well over a dozen times. > > Next, perhaps, should be Survival. If for no other reason > that rumor has it that it has been "pressed" and the discs are > sitting in a warehouse somewhere collecting dust. Besides, when > I transcribed the lyrics for this one I gained a new appreciation > of the music contained within these tracks. It's different but > great! > > Then, perhaps, should come Born To Die. This album is a tran- > sition album that shows a new and different side to "our boys." > Most true Grand Funk fanatics will tell you that this one con- > tained some really excellent tracks and provided a vision of what > was to come in later albums. Besides, if this one is released > early enough, it might provoke MCA and Warner Brothers to get off > of the can and release Good Singin', Good Playin', Grand Funk > Lives, and What's Funk? which are very important too. > > What follows is probably just my personal preference based on > which albums contained songs that I liked. > > On Time should be next. Why? Just because! It's a classic!! > > Phoenix should probably follow. It is another transition al- > bum that showed a new and different side to the best band in the > land. Besides, Flight of the Phoenix and Rock 'n Roll Soul are > two kick-butt, party songs. > > Shinin' On would follow next. But, when they do -- please, > please, please, please include Destitute and Loosin' so we don't > have to go searching for our 45's! > > All The Girls In The World Beware!!! would follow next for no > particular reason. > > And, finally, Mark, Don & Mel could be last simply because it > contains tracks that would then already be available from previ- > ous CD releases. But, don't get me wrong, even though I list > this one last it must be released like all the others. I think I > can speak confidently for the entire Grand Funk mailing list and > many of the other fans who have e-mailed me personally, we want > *ALL* of the original albums to eventually be released on CD ... > all of them! > > Well, Sunny, there you have it. A little bit of opinion mixed > with a lot of input from Grand Funk fans from around the world. > So, pass it on to Mark, Don, Mel, David Fishof, Sujata Murthy -- > whoever needs to know -- that the fans are eagerly awaiting more > of the best Funkin' music to ever rock the world to finally be > rereleased on CD. > > Thanks for listening, take care, and, as always, grok in full- > ness ... > > Bill-- > ...who would give his right arm to be ambidextrous. > +--------------------------+--------------------------+- //\ -(42?)- /\\ + > |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | || * \ . . / * ||| > |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| \\____\X/____// | > | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | / * /O\ * \ | > +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+-- \__/ " \__/ - -+ > > > P.S. based on some rumor and other input, some of us have > searched out and found the beginnings of the official Grand Funk > Web site. Please notify the "powers that be" that they mis- > spelled Railroad. ------------------------------ From: "Lady Jade" Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:56:53 -0400 Subject: Re: The Pack albums Anybody remember Captain Beyond? with Lee Dorman (Iron Butterfly) , Rod Evans (Deep Purple) Rhino, and Bobby Caldwell (Johnny Winter). The first album smokes and would put anything out today to shame. How about Charlee with Walter Rossi? - ---------- > From: Doug Devers > To: NH Borger ; Grand Funk Group GFR mailing list > Subject: Re: The Pack albums > Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 9:18 AM > > All this talk about "The Pack" got up my curiosity up, so I went and dug it > out. > > Anybody out there has "The Pack" albums with Mark Farner on vocals? > > How many The Pack albums / singles are there with Mark Farner / > > Don Brewer on vocals other than "Track On", "Monumental Funk" and > > "Mark, Don and Terry" ? > Nico, their first album is self-titled, and lists Mark, Terry, Don plus > Curt Johnson and Bob Caldwell as vocalists on the album. It's on Lucky > Eleven records, catalog LE-8000. Do you have this one? Anyone else want a > copy and got something to trade? > > - Doug > "So what if you can't fool all the people all the time; most of them > aren't paying attention in the first place." > ddevers@viagrafix.com > > ---------- > > From: NH Borger > > To: Grand Funk Group GFR mailing list > > Subject: The Pack albums > > Date: Friday, May 02, 1997 2:53 PM > > > > I can trade GFR bootlegs for them. > > > > Nico. > > ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Fw: Hmm-mm-mm << You want to ponder something? Ponder this: Who could play triplets faster > than Don Brewer? ....... > Now, let me have it....take 2 aspirin....and e-mail me in the morning / : > > Joe (the other Joe) In2theSon! >> Actually, Dave Lombardo (formerly from the group Slayer) could run circles around Don Brewer so fast he wouldn't know what went by him. On the other hand, slide a 5 piece drum kit under this guy, and Don could use him as a mop! I would have to say that I don't really know of any drummers that can play a 5 piece drum set like Don and make it sound like 9! Even though Dave Lombardo could whip Don's butt when it comes to speed, there are many things that Don can do that Dave can't. Therefore, we cannot know who is the better musician. But who cares anyway? Don kicks major ass with GFR and that's what counts! There is no GFR without Don. Same goes for Mark and Mel. Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: HCRRock@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Live album Most of the album was recorded at the Atlanta Pop festival and the Sarasota Fla show... It was my first time at a Grand Funk gig and made me a fan since...Most of the acts didn't come close to the energy that MDM put on that night in Byron, Ga...In fact most of the acts on the bill were boring....When I think back now, GFR wasn't even listed on the media program or the original bill with the other 20 or so acts....They played this one free like they did in 69.... I'll try to piece meal a story of that weekend back in July of 70 a little later... CRASH TEST CHRIS ------------------------------ From: bluetuna@webtv.net (Rand Kelly) Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 19:57:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Captain Beyond (was pack albums) - --WebTV-Mail-869766339-894 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello Lady Jade from the heart of the Redwood Empire. A couple of years ago I went to see the Iron Butterfly reunion tour in the East Bay area. It was Doug Ingle, Ron Bushy, Lee Dorman and 2 young players on guitar and keys. Man they were great and that LONG song was wonderful live. Felt like 1968 again. They also played 3 new songs I never heard before and they were cool sort of progressive Uriah Heep. Sad to say they told us after the show no one will sign them and there can be no new album. Sound familiar? Anyway I wanted to talk to Lee about CB and even brought my cd booklet with me and he was shocked because he didn't know it was out on Japanese cd. He signed the back and told me since the company went under he gets nothing for that contribution, that really bites huh? He did say though, Captain Beyond was a favorite of his and was happy to discuss it but he couldn't remember much. All in all a great night, I won't forget. BTW Iron Butterfly is not listed on the Ultimate Band List and I can't understand this at all. cheers, Rand Kelly - --WebTV-Mail-869766339-894 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Authentication-Warning: topquark.roadkill.com: majordomo set sender to owner-grand-funk using -f Message-Id: <199705230156.VAA25971@relief.idirect.com> From: "Lady Jade" To: "Doug Devers" , "NH Borger" , "Grand Funk Group GFR mailing list" Subject: Re: The Pack albums Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:56:53 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Lady Jade" Anybody remember Captain Beyond? with Lee Dorman (Iron Butterfly) , Rod Evans (Deep Purple) Rhino, and Bobby Caldwell (Johnny Winter). The first album smokes and would put anything out today to shame. How about Charlee with Walter Rossi? - ---------- > From: Doug Devers > To: NH Borger ; Grand Funk Group GFR mailing list > Subject: Re: The Pack albums > Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 9:18 AM > > All this talk about "The Pack" got up my curiosity up, so I went and dug it > out. > > Anybody out there has "The Pack" albums with Mark Farner on vocals? > > How many The Pack albums / singles are there with Mark Farner / > > Don Brewer on vocals other than "Track On", "Monumental Funk" and > > "Mark, Don and Terry" ? > Nico, their first album is self-titled, and lists Mark, Terry, Don plus > Curt Johnson and Bob Caldwell as vocalists on the album. It's on Lucky > Eleven records, catalog LE-8000. Do you have this one? Anyone else want a > copy and got something to trade? > > - Doug > "So what if you can't fool all the people all the time; most of them > aren't paying attention in the first place." > ddevers@viagrafix.com > > ---------- > > From: NH Borger > > To: Grand Funk Group GFR mailing list > > Subject: The Pack albums > > Date: Friday, May 02, 1997 2:53 PM > > > > I can trade GFR bootlegs for them. > > > > Nico. > > - --WebTV-Mail-869766339-894-- ------------------------------ From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski) Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Fw: Hmm-mm-mm ><< You want to ponder something? Ponder this: Who could play triplets > faster > > than Don Brewer? ....... > > Now, let me have it....take 2 aspirin....and e-mail me in the morning / > : > > > Joe (the other Joe) In2theSon! >> > >Actually, Dave Lombardo (formerly from the group Slayer) could run circles >around Don Brewer so fast he wouldn't know what went by him. On the other >hand, slide a 5 piece drum kit under this guy, and Don could use him as a >mop! > Hi Jayola here, you know being a git player 30 years and reared on Alvin Lee, Mark, Santana, EC, The Kings etc...The worst thing musicians can do is compare musicians to other musicians. I mean it don't matter how fast or slow one can play its the feel! Yeah...sure Alvin Lee was proably the fastest out of our era(s) and so now they say the young metal bands players draw rings around him...WHOOPIE DOO! The old school cats and Mark included PLAYED WITH HEART & SOUL & SUBSTANCE THAT STUCK AND STILL STICKS! As for the BREWSTER? Well, Ginger Baker is a Monster you know but...The BREWSTER is A MONSTER ALSO! Get FARNERIZED & BREWSTERIZED! Jayola The Sonics:The All Music Site! Closer To Home & Shinin' On! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ ------------------------------ From: "joieb" Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:11:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Fw: Courtroom humor Should I have made it "Farner"? Lisa - ---------- > From: Bass6plyr@aol.com > To: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: Re: Fw: Courtroom humor > Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 8:35 PM > > In a message dated 97-05-22 17:16:53 EDT, joieb@concentric.net (joieb) > writes: > > << I thought maybe a joke would lighten everyone's mood! > > Laughing again... > > Lisa (Budrock's wife) > > > Subject: Courtroom humor > > Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 3:55 AM > > > > The following is a courtroom exchange between a defense attorney and a > > farmer with a bodily injury claim. It came from a Houston, Texas > insurance > > agent. > > > > Attorney: "At the scene of the accident, did you tell the constable you > had > > never felt better in your life?" > > > > Farmer: "That's right." > > > > Attorney: "Well, then, how is it that you are now claiming you were > seriously > > injured when my client's auto hit your wagon?" > > > > Farmer: "When the constable arrived, he went over to my horse, who had a > broken > > leg, and shot him. Then he went over to Rover, my dog, who was all banged > up, > > and shot him. When he asked me how I felt, I just thought under the > > circumstances, it was a wise choice of words to say I've never felt > better in my > > life. > > > >> > > Farmer??? > > Paul > Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Leo Bartoli Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:27:36 -0400 Subject: RE: T-shirts I agree with the majority on this one. I can't wait to get my shirt and = wear it proudly! Lets try not to get sucked into legalism to quickly. = Leo [Leo Bartoli] =20 - -----Original Message----- From: jmaijala@sprynet.com [SMTP:jmaijala@sprynet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 1997 11:32 PM To: Ljb Subject: Re: GET FUNKED And Another Thing, GFR, themselves, probably would not get involved in much of that stuff. = It=20 would most likely the people distributing the related merchandise. I'm = sure it=20 will get licensed and trademarked and all that legal crap. =20 In the meantime, since they are behind the eight ball on this stuff, and = publicity is the name of the game right now, they are going to let it = slide for=20 now. This will not last. It will end someday, so let's rock and roll = while the=20 climate is good!! =20 I have a couple of the Funkengruven shirts and I will wear them proudly = in Vegas=20 (unless the T-shirt police are around). "Mr. Maijala, will you step on = the curb=20 please. Now, may I see your T-shirt aproval certicate please. What!, = no=20 certificate?! Drop down and recite the second verse of "Sally" right = now!!!!!" Just my opinion, Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 23:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The Pack albums i sure do!!!!!!!!!!!!! remember captain beyond!!!!!! in fact my handle on another service is just that!!! great stuff!!!!!!!!!!! greg btw re: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sorry if it was my doing making you guys tense but mr get funked and i took the advice of going off line with the chat and lets just say we might call it a big cyber-mis-understanding! we're all on track again too! lets roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!! she's teasing us isnt she? august release? great???????? ------------------------------ From: Joe McLean Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 00:35:37 -0400 Subject: Funkettes Hi all, I've got a question that one of you hardcore funkheads might be able to help me with. Who were the funkettes and where are they now??? Later, Joe - -- ***************************************************** Joe McLean Nature's Medicine Cabinet http://www.shore.net/~jm/welcome.htm ***************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 01:18:32 -0400 Subject: ABC In Concert If we all work together, maybe we can get ABC to rerun "In Concert". I remember watching it religiously back in the seventies. When Grand Funk made their appearance, I was glued to the TV set. I taped the audio with a cheap cassette recorder. I came across the tape a few days ago, and boy, I should have found a better way to record from the TV. I have to say that watching that show was one of the most influential programs I ever saw. My rock hero was telling the world that drugs were bad. That was a novel thing in the seventies. I never got high or drunk a day in my life, and I owe it mostly to Mark Farner, and my grandfather. During "Closer To Home" they did a little story about a drug rehab center called Phoenix House. If anyone can help me get a copy of that video, please let me know. Anyway, back to getting ABC to show the reruns. You can e-mail them at their homepage site. Just go to: http://www.abc.com/vvoice/talk.html Let's all work together. "In Concert" blew "Kershner's Rock Concert" away every week. If ABC doesn't want to rerun it, maybe they can sell the tapes to VH1, MTV, or Much Music. I guess it wouldn't hurt to suggest that also. Thanks for the support, Tom Roberts ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 02:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: INSIDE LOOKING OUT In a message dated 97-05-23 02:28:47 EDT, tom-span@pacbell.net (tom fagan) writes: << Also, I remmember seeing Grand Funk at the Forum in about 1970...come to think of it 71 & 72 as well...same place ...the Forum in Los Angeles and the part of the red album where Farner sings in INSIDE LOOKING OUT Mark says "nickle bag" instead of "burlap Bag"...anyone rememmber that Tom Funkster! >> He says "nickle bag" at the 1974 LA show too. He repeats it twice in a row as a matter of fact. Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:06:17 -0700 Subject: Re: ABC In Concert Up until the Detroit show this year, that concert was the only time I got to see the band in action. This show has been the topic of many discussions. In fact at the 'roadkill' pre-show get together in Detroit it was discussed at length. I believe Crash Test Chris said he had talked to several ABC affiliates about the footage, without much success. I don't know which show I'd rather see more, that one or the 'Shea Stadium' concert, which has also been rumored to be 'out there'. At the Detroit show they showed some footage from the Shea concert. Anyone else have any more recent info regarding these two gems? - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:06:17 -0700 Subject: Re: ABC In Concert Up until the Detroit show this year, that concert was the only time I got to see the band in action. This show has been the topic of many discussions. In fact at the 'roadkill' pre-show get together in Detroit it was discussed at length. I believe Crash Test Chris said he had talked to several ABC affiliates about the footage, without much success. I don't know which show I'd rather see more, that one or the 'Shea Stadium' concert, which has also been rumored to be 'out there'. At the Detroit show they showed some footage from the Shea concert. Anyone else have any more recent info regarding these two gems? - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 14:40:48 -0400 Subject: Shea I do not want to start a rumor, but I was sure someone said Shea was to be released officially as part of the big comeback. Well we now know that the Bosnian Live cd is done and Sunny said look for more by the end of the year. I am just now starting to feel comfortable that they are back "For Good" as Mel said on GMA. Hey Sonicman, you mean I gotta type the whole 'pass it' thing over again? Going to Russia in September. Maybe Funk will be there! They sure do Boot a lot of there (GFR's) music over there. Funkola ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 14:42:45 -0400 Subject: Donna Hey Donna did anyone get a pic of you and Farner belly bucking after the show? If so let's see it on your site! Funkola ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 15:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Leo were you born in August In a message dated 97-05-23 02:56:54 EDT, ljb@pwshift.com (Leo Bartoli) writes: To: In2theSon@aol.com ('In2theSon@aol.com') Joe: I don't know you from shineola, but you crack me up!!! Leo >> Sorry Leo...I hope it don't hurt. Somebody put Leo back together. / : > TheOl'GumbyHead. Joe ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Okay...O.K.... Hey, I just play guitar a little....I don't know anything about the drumssssss....obvious huh? But to me Brewer was so smo-o-o-oth on the triplets. I remeber the solo in Creams "Toad"...but I really wasn't impressed. I not a drummer. Heck, I don't even like chicken legs...........think for a moment......... (drumsticks)..... But I'm glad I'm not getting sued for saying what I did. I GOT MY TICKET FOR THE LITTLE ROCK SHOW TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I GOT E-MAIL THAT MY "UNDERGROUND-BLACK-MARKET-FUNKENGRUVEN-TEE-SHIRT IS IN THE MAIL!!!!!!!!!! Ye-e-e-eHa-a-a-a-aw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! : ) ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:56:27 -0700 Subject: Detroit video Funkaholics-is there any word on when the Detroit concert will be released on video.Donna I would like to see that picture to. PAT ------------------------------ From: Ken Blackley Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 15:01:12 -0600 Subject: UNsubscribe unsubscribe GrandFunk list ------------------------------ From: AliveWW@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: NY Videotape I think it was Larry that posted earlier about having the NY Grand Funk show coming on video...antone seen this yet or heard of its existence...this is something we all need to add to our collections.....keep us posted Larry. Thanks! All the BEST! Randy AliveWW@aol.com Kiss On Video & Kiss/Cleveland Indians Caps Web site at: http://www.galstar.com/~markmad/randy.htm ------------------------------ From: LMcdan1313@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 21:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Detroit video Alot has been written about Sunny and Deena Schacher being visible and involved at the reunion shows but what about Mark's wife and sons? Are they excited about this "Phoenix" or rebirth? Larry ------------------------------ From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski) Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 19:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What Funk? The IGGSTERS Funk! Hey Funkies out there? Any of you into IGGY & THE STOOGES??? Come on now...He's from our boys STATE! Well see my site the Sonics and win IGGY & THE STOOGES RAW POWER REMIXED & REMASTERED CD! I got 3 LIMITED EDITION SPECIAL ADVANCE CD's to give away! These are COLLECTORS ITEMS ALREADY! Sponsored by Columbia-Legacy Records & Fine Media N.Y. Jayola The Sonics:The All Music Site! Closer To Home & Shinin' On! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:42:34 +0200 Subject: Re: ABC In Concert Tom Roberts, you wrote: >If we all work together, maybe we can get ABC to rerun "In Concert". Great idea. Well I've sent this at http://www.abc.com/vvoice/talk.html hoping to get some responce: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was good to see Grand Funk Railroad on ABC Good Morning America last month, april 11th. As you know Grand Funk Railroad is back together and are doing a world tour this year. Back in dec. '71 / jan. '72 there was an "In Concert" programme by ABC. One of them was a live recording of Grand Funk Railroad with special guest star Freddie King. This was a benefit concert for the Phoenix drug habilitation centre in New York. This live concert was recorded in New York at the Madison Square Garden. My request is to please find this film in the archieve and show it again. Please let me know when, so I can let somebody in the USA record it for me on video. Even better would be to release this film for sale officialy on video, or sell it to MTV (Europe) for a Grand Funk Railroad weekend special. Grand Funk Railroad will release a new live CD in august (recording from the recent Auburn Hills concert april 20th) If you need to contact Grand Funk Railroad for this, here are three e-mail addresses: DFishof@AOL.COM - David Fishof (manager) Sunnyq@wzzr.com - Sunny Quinn (representative) QBERT50@AOL.Com - Management team >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CU, Nico @@@@@@@ ____ @@@@@@@@@@@ | \ | | - ----|-----------\-------------------------------------|--|--------| Come on and ride the Railroad one more time.\ - -------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ From: JferSha@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 16:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Warning - Virus I just come across this warning in the "www.ifl.com" education area that said... Warning: Do not download any file named pkzip300 regardless of the file extension. This is a new Trojan Horse virus that wipes your hard disk clean and affects modems of 14.4 and higher. Don't want to mess up any potential opportunities to have "funkengruven" Later. Joe ------------------------------ From: PT73186@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 18:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe grand-funk ------------------------------ From: kingf@theherald.southam.ca Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 18:51:25 -0600 Subject: Hello, folks!! Hey there, funkheads: just signed up to this list and thought I'd do the introduction thing. I'm Frank King, a resident of Calgary, Alberta (that's Canada, people) and a humungous GFR fan for, oh, about 23 years now. Yes, I'm yer typical 'old white guy', 36 years old, a reporter with the largest daily newspaper in this city (which is Canada's fourth-largest). My brother bought a gold vinyl copy of American Band while we were on a U.S. vacation in '74, and that was it for all 3 of us. I now own just about everything possible in CD, and would like to sit down with somebody at Capitol/MCA/Full Moon and say "HELLLLLLLLOOOOO!! Are we EVER gonna see the rest of the catalogue??" Got to meet Mark Farner while he was part of the Northwest Airlines tour that hit Calgary in late '95. Obviously a major thrill, since me and my two bros. used to carry out "rock concerts" in our basement BLASTING Caught In The Act. I let him use my back to sign an autograph for a guy. This city doesn't get a lot of decent acts (unless you count those Nashville hat acts, and sorry, I don't) so I don't have much of a chance to ever see the band, now that it's back in action. ON the other hand, news of a 2-disc live package is majorly exciting. I just hope it gets a Canadian release. Besides GFR I'm a huge fan of other "old white guy" acts like Deep Purple (love their NEW album), the Allman Brothers (waiting to hear who will replace Warren Haynes & Allan Woody), Yes (who's gonna take Wakeman's spot?), ELP (boy, that last cd was TERRIBLE!), BTO, UFO, etc. Anyway, thanks for reading, and hope to add a little something to the list. cheers Frank King Calgary, Alberta ------------------------------ From: LOGICR@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 21:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GFR article Tim, I am not sure that I am "CC"-ing this to the correct grand funk address, so you may want to forward it for me, IF you think it is *worthy*. From the Thursday May 21st St. Louis Post Dispatch: MUSIC & MEDIA Video: Get Down Grand Funk By Patrick Daly BERGMAN? ANTONIONI? "After seven minutes of a squawky jam, replete with those "flower power" graphics that nowadays serve only to annoy the viewer, the screen fills with a human eye. In utter silence, the eye swings to the right, then back to confront the camera. Cut to a beach full of dowdy, pasty-skinned young folk wandering the sand in a dazed, post-apocalyptic fashion to Billy Joe Royal's hard-sell naration about *the world's most famous beach,* *the wide, white, long one* itself, Daytona Beach, where everyone is a *swinger* busy *makin' the scene*. KENNEDY? REX? Such is the cinematic world of "GET DOWN GRAND FUNK" ($29.95, Ivy Video). As the jacket copy puts it, "This uproarious film stars the band, Grand Funk Railroad, along with the Tams and the Swinging Medalions, whose concert performances are laced into maniacal footage from the 1968 docu-film "Mondo Daytona". Whatever that means. The main lesson is that long before MTV entered the corporate marketplace with its yearly spring break manipulations, you could always get nervous, straight-laced college kids (and rock musicians) to act stupid for a camera. A secondary lesson is, hey kids, your parents at your age were as big a bunch of dorks as you feared. BRUCE? BRYANT? Billy Joe Royal had himself a few AM hits back in the 60's, most notably '65's "Down In The Boondocks," which he performs here in stiff, VH-1 fashion. It's his narration of the film that steals the show. With the lingo of Lenny Bruce and the sensibility of Anita Bryant, Royal works hard trying to turn what was never hip (college kids drinking beer on spring break) into something, uh, hip. When speaking of the various college majors represented on the beach, he even mentions "business administration cats". Wow. That seven-minute squawk that opened our film was, of course, the Funk. They easily eat up half of the final twenty minutes of the film with more of the same, a stolid, swaggering power trio on a stage bereft of context. Then the colored amoebas swirled across my vision." after that is a little more, but I thought you might find this interesting. I have never heard ANYONE mention this on ANY of the GFR sites! What do you think? Kd ------------------------------ From: Robin Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 19:51:00 -0700 Subject: Re: GFR article At 09:28 PM 5/24/97, Kd wrote: >MUSIC & MEDIA >Video: Get Down Grand Funk Wow, this is interesting. I've never heard of it and I just tried to research it and the St. Louis paper was the only place I could find any mention of it. But I did come across a reference to something else I've never heard of - a 1970 movie titled "Musical Mutiny and Weekend Rebellion" that supposedly featured Iron Butterfly, Grand Funk, and others. Anyone know about this one? ------------------------------ From: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 21:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Hello, folks!! On Sat, 24 May 1997 kingf@theherald.southam.ca wrote: I'm Frank King, a resident of Calgary, Alberta (that's > Canada, people) Hey Frank! Wow! Someone "Closer to Home" on the list! I'm an Edmontonian. myself. If GFR ever comes up here (PPLLEEZZZZZZZ!!!!!, they are at least guaranteed two customers . . . > I'm yer typical 'old white guy', 36 years old, a reporter with the largest > daily newspaper in this city (which is Canada's fourth-largest). > Is this the Sun? I used to be a reporter for te old CKO Radio Network before finding out there was more money to be made working on a farm radio show for Alberta Agriculture (The provincial agriculture department, for you Americans) > Got to meet Mark Farner while he was part of the Northwest Airlines tour > that hit Calgary in late '95. HE was in Calgary in '95?!? And I missed it? AARRGGHH!!!!! Obviously a major thrill, since me and my two > bros. used to carry out "rock concerts" in our basement BLASTING Caught In > The Act. I let him use my back to sign an autograph for a guy. > I saw him them at the Edmonton Coliseum in 1974. GREAT show. > This city doesn't get a lot of decent acts (unless you count those > Nashville hat acts, and sorry, I don't) so I don't have much of a chance to > ever see the band, now that it's back in action. ON the other hand, news of > a 2-disc live package is majorly exciting. I just hope it gets a Canadian > release. If it doesn't, you and I should march on the distributor . . . > > Besides GFR I'm a huge fan of other "old white guy" acts like (snip) > Yes (who's gonna take > Wakeman's spot?), , , Seen Yes twice at the Coliseum. One of my all-time favourites, but one that hasn't weathered well, for some reason. Their old stuff sounds dated. ELP (boy, that last cd was TERRIBLE!) (snip) Do you mean "Paper Moon"? They had a very good live album out a year or so ago. I saw them at the Jubilee Audtorium (there's one in both Edmonton and Calgary, you Yanks) three or so years ago. They were very good. > > Anyway, thanks for reading, and hope to add a little something to the list. You already have, at least for me. Imagine!! Another Albertan! Cool! > Ken Blackley> ------------------------------ From: frankbauer@thevine.net Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 20:05:04 -0800 Subject: monumental picture disk i stopped at my favorite vinyl shop yesterday, having a 50% off sale for their favorite customers... =8) i found a mint "monumental funk" picture disk! i had never heard the album before. first song is good. and there is a 60's psychedelic sounding song. some cheesy stuff in there. and long, really nicely done "lovelight! sound quality on pix disks usually sux and this is no exception. but it was quite fun to find this. "shinin on": copies-4, 3D glasses-0 ;( nothing else funk interesting... (though i did get an "all the girls" for a buck, since i haven't heard it in awhile and never had it.) frank ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #66 *******************************