From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #65 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Thursday, 22 May 1997 Volume 01 : Number 065 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nancy Barravecchio Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:00:36 -0400 Subject: Cleavleand Concert Hey all, I am trying to find out about tickets for the Cleaveland Show, but I have tried ticketmaster online with no luck for the July shows and (I must be using dead gray matter) I cannot get anywhere with Pollstar online! So if anyone can help It would be devine! Are the tickets on sale yet, still, are they already sold out? Who else has a chance of going? Would be great to get a real party going! Bless All In Love and Light Nan In Love and Light, Nancy B. ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:42:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Cleavleand Concert Nancy Barravecchio wrote: > > Hey all, I am trying to find out about tickets for the Cleaveland Show, but > I have tried ticketmaster online with no luck for the July shows and (I must > be using dead gray matter) I cannot get anywhere with Pollstar online! So if > anyone can help It would be devine! Are the tickets on sale yet, still, are > they already sold out? Who else has a chance of going? Would be great to get > a real party going! Bless All In Love and Light Nan > In Love and Light, Nancy B. Hi Nancy: Liz & I are planning on going to the Ohio shows. The tickets have not gone on sale yet...I don't know, yet, when they will. Jimmy G. ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 18:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GFR first experience yes indeed and i neglected that detail! sorry but thanks for reminding me!! how could i have forgotten since we added that to our setlist thereafter! later nico greg ------------------------------ From: STAATS Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 18:37:47 -0400 Subject: CLEVELAND SHOW Hello Funk Heads, Called ticketmaster yesterday and they said that they DO NOT handle ticket sales for the Cleveland State Theater show. Called the State Theater in Cleveland (216-771-4444) who said they had NO INFORMATION on GFR in concert. DAVID ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:36:29 -0700 Subject: Concert Tickets For all those who are having a hard time finding tickets on sale to the July concerts: The Bosnian relief concerts did not go on sale until just a couple of weeks before the shows. I know a lot of you are new to this list, and so did not see the e-mails. Just to let you all know, it was very frustrating for everyone who was trying to get info on those shows. Confirmation from GFR Management and from the Venue box offices happened at the last minute. At least all of you know that these dates *have* been confirmed with the Management. Just try to be patient (I know, I know) and keep checking Ticketmaster and the Venue box offices. If I remember correctly, I think the Auburn Hills, Beacon and Greek shows did not show up on Pollstar & Ticketmaster until 1 week? before the shows. And didn't someone (Mick, Chris?) call the Beacon box office a week before tickets went on sale, and they still didn't have any info? Donna ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Concert Tickets i think it was further out than that donna yet it was frustrating non the less! in fact when i asked mark if the show would look better from further back than my row 8 seats he replied "i really dont know never been there brother!" and at the same time fishof said "you'll see a hell of a show!!" and that was 4/4-6 at the r n r camp before the 4/20 auburn hills palace show! i think at that point id recieved my tix so it was a short time before that when detroit went on sale! my .02! g ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 00:29:56 -0700 Subject: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Guys(& Gals) I called the State Theater in Cleveland(216-771-4444) today and they have no info on the 7/26 show. I also called the Stranahan Theatre in Toledo(419-381-8851) regarding the 7/27 show and they told me that GFRR's management had called for dates, but no contracts have been signed yet. I received the following nondescript response from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame complete with missing words. It might be valuable for us to start peppering them with inquiries. Later. Regards, Jim From: James Lichtenberg To: other@rockhall.com Date: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 9:58 PM Subject: director@rockhall.com INVALID ADDRESS! - Grand Funk Railroad Dear Director, I am a member of The Official Grand Funk Railroad Fan Club. I am writing to ask if your organization has any plans to induct Grand Funk. The band has sold over 20 million records and sold out Shea Stadium in 1971 faster than the Beatles. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Sincerely, James Lichtenberg lichtj@mhv.net There are three categories of inductees: Performers: Artists become eligible for indications 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria considered includes the influence and significance of the artist's contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. Non-Performers: Songwriters, Producers, Disc Jockeys, Record Executives, Journalists and other industry professionals who have an impact on the development of rock and roll. Early Influences: Artists whose music predated rock and roll, But who inspired rock's leading artists and helped in the evolution of rock. The Foundation's nominating committee, composed of rock and roll historians, selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are sent to an international voting body of about 1,000 rock experts. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes, and more than 50% of the vote, are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year. The nominating committee annually elects the inductees in the Non-Performer and Early Influence categories. I am sure in the that Grand Funk will be inducted... ------------------------------ From: Joe McLean Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 05:10:38 -0400 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED Isn't the use of a band's name or logo such as the pointing finger an illegal infringement of copyright laws? Just curious. WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > just a reminder this is not a commercial site!!! > > "so if they hand you something dont take it!" > > new and improved (http://www.vegasnet.net/~1kfunkrr) > > worn and torn with pride at the 3 bosnian relief fund shows!!! > DETROIT-NYC-LA!!! - -- ***************************************************** Joe McLean ***************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Lady Jade" Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:56:13 -0400 Subject: Re: My Favorite Internet Database - All Music Guide Anybody have the Capital Sampler album from '72. Its got GFR's Please Dont Worry - ---------- > From: jgiranda@monmouth.com > To: Randy Stowe > Cc: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: Re: My Favorite Internet Database - All Music Guide > Date: Sunday, May 11, 1997 6:24 PM > > Randy Stowe wrote: > > > > Hey Bill, > > Thanks for the link to the All Music Guide. I ran a search on GFR, > > and it listed their albums which included "City Baby Attacked By Rats". > > Does anybody know anything about this lp? Is it a compilation album or > > something? Also listed was "Granicus" released in 1973. I've never heard > > of these albums. Somebody please fill me in. > > > > Randy > Randy: > > The City Baby... and Granicus listed under GFR are mistakes. I have sent > E-mail numerous times informing the All Music Guide people that GFR made > no such albums, but they still have not corrected the error. > > Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GET FUNKED i'd say yes IF the party was annoyed by its use but in this case we have shown these to them and offered to donate all profits to them or the bosnians or whomever they choose! so my assumption is since gfrr knows us and what we are doing and why! we have their approval!!! we are doing it to spread the word of the comeback not for personal gain which correct me if im wrong it appeared was the motivation behind these get funked shirts! later g ------------------------------ From: WEBSTER KEITH Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:46:44 -0400 Subject: Concert Videos Do any of my fellow FUNKSTERS know where or how i can get info on any of GFR's concerts that might be on video, I already know that Dave(Staat) has some. But I was wondering if Capitol or any other music companys might have some. Peace and Love.....Keep the FUNK Alive. Keith8-) ------------------------------ From: Joe McLean Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:41:31 -0400 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED So, you have the bands express approval either verbally or in writing? Since you know them as you say, did they say to you it was alright to use their name and logo to promote their band? What was their response when you offered to donate your profits to them or the Bosnians? Are you going to donate your PROFITS to the band or Bosnians? And what's wrong with offering funk fans a choice that also promotes our favorite band? I also want to spread the word of the comeback as I have been a fan for over 20 years. jm@shore.net wrote: > >Isn't the use of a band's name or logo such as the pointing finger an >illegal infringement of copyright laws? Just curious. WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > i'd say yes IF the party was annoyed by its use but in this case we have > shown these to them and offered to donate all profits to them or the bosnians > or whomever they choose! so my assumption is since gfrr knows us and what we > are doing and why! we have their approval!!! we are doing it to spread the > word of the comeback not for personal gain which correct me if im wrong it > appeared was the motivation behind these get funked shirts! > later > g - -- ***************************************************** Joe McLean ***************************************************** ------------------------------ From: frankbauer@thevine.net Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:28:16 -0800 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED >i'd say yes IF the party was annoyed by its use but in this case we have >shown these to them and offered to donate all profits to them or the bosnian >or whomever they choose! so my assumption is since gfrr knows us and what w >are doing and why! we have their approval!!! we are doing it to spread the >word of the comeback not for personal gain which correct me if im wrong it >appeared was the motivation behind these get funked shirts! keep in mind, the whole merchandising thing didn't kick into high gear until the stones tour in 81, well after gfr stopped touring. it was obvious to me at the greek that the gfr people aren't up to speed on this aspect of marketing the band. they will be more than happy to let the diehards on roadkill get the business rolling until they start getting protective of their turf. then you will be showing shirts to cops and lawyers, not mark or david. i hope i'm wrong... frank to: IN:WHIRLEGREG@aol.com cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:36:15 -0700 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED frankbauer@thevine.net wrote: > keep in mind, the whole merchandising thing didn't kick into high gear > > until the stones tour in 81, well after gfr stopped touring. it was > obvious to me at the greek that the gfr people aren't up to speed on > this aspect of marketing the band. they will be more than happy to > let > the diehards on roadkill get the business rolling until they start > getting protective of their turf. then you will be showing shirts to > cops and lawyers, not mark or david. i hope i'm wrong... > frank > > to: IN:WHIRLEGREG@aol.com > cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com That's a risk I'm willing to take. The shirts are doing nothing but helping the band. I gave one to a DJ here in town and he's going to wear it at a huge outdoor summer concert here in Vegas called "Junefest". They'll be about 50,000 people seeing the shirt, and learning about the comeback. I'm going to do whatever I can to promote the band. I'm going to keep printing the shirts for the brother and sisters out there who want them. At $10 a shirt, there are no profits (the 48 that were printed wrong, I ate). If the cops and lawyers want a piece of me - bring it on. I do hope the bands management will open up some merchandising channels, it's obvious to me the demand is there. - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:14:28 -0400 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED To Mike and everyone else who are concerned with promotion, not profit: PRESS ON!!!!!! I am convinced that if GFRR, its management or any other part of that "movement" was concerned about this, we would have heard from them a long time ago. Let's get real here. All that the T-shirts are doing is providing free promotion for the band. The offer has already been made that the miniscule margin be passed to GFRR, Bosnia or whatever. I can sleep well with the current status. As for this ongoing discussion, I recommend that you guys take it offline. Stan At 13:36 5/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >frankbauer@thevine.net wrote: > >> keep in mind, the whole merchandising thing didn't kick into high gear >> >> until the stones tour in 81, well after gfr stopped touring. it was >> obvious to me at the greek that the gfr people aren't up to speed on >> this aspect of marketing the band. they will be more than happy to >> let >> the diehards on roadkill get the business rolling until they start >> getting protective of their turf. then you will be showing shirts to >> cops and lawyers, not mark or david. i hope i'm wrong... >> frank >> >> to: IN:WHIRLEGREG@aol.com >> cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com > >That's a risk I'm willing to take. The shirts are doing nothing but >helping the band. I gave one to a DJ here in town and he's going to wear >it at a huge outdoor summer concert here in Vegas called "Junefest". >They'll be about 50,000 people seeing the shirt, and learning about the >comeback. > >I'm going to do whatever I can to promote the band. I'm going to keep >printing the shirts for the brother and sisters out there who want them. >At $10 a shirt, there are no profits (the 48 that were printed wrong, I >ate). > >If the cops and lawyers want a piece of me - bring it on. > >I do hope the bands management will open up some merchandising channels, >it's obvious to me the demand is there. > >-=Mike=- > > > Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: JAYPFUNK@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fwd: Grand Funk Railroad on King Bisquit Funkers, This is what I wrote to King Bisquit, and the response that I got back I got back. Jay aka-jpetitt@compucom.com ****************************************************************************** ********************JAYPFUNK@aol.com wrote: > Dear KBFH, > Have you guys ever had Grand Funk Railroad? It would really be great to > get a release if you guys have something. They are back on a KILLER reunion > tour. They have alot of hardcore fans that would die for a great LIVE show!!! > Thanks > Jay Petitt Resonse: I'm not sure if we have a Grand Funk Railroad. If we do, i'll pass the message to the powers that be to see if we can put it out. thanks for your email - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: afritch@idt.net (Production) Reply-to: production@KBFH.com To: JAYPFUNK@aol.com Date: 97-05-20 23:51:08 EDT JAYPFUNK@aol.com wrote: > > Dear KBFH, > > Have you guys ever had Grand Funk Railroad? It would really be great to > get a release if you guys have something. They are back on a KILLER reunion > tour. They have alot of hardcore fans that would die for a great LIVE show!!! > Thanks > Jay Petitt I'm not sure if we have a Grand Funk Railroad. If we do, i'll pass the message to the powers that be to see if we can put it out. thanks for your email ------------------------------ From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: KBFH Hi Jayola here; I do press for King Biscuit reviewing their CD's as you know they have CD giveways on my site. I brought up the FUNK shows months ago to them...The response I got was I know we got some shows, but WHO OWNS THE ORIGINAL TAPES? FUNK OR KNIGHT? I order to have them released. Jayola here just passing it around! The Sonics:The All Music Site! Closer To Home & Shinin' On! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 18:39:12 -0400 Subject: Re: MORE LIVE FUNK!! Bugsy41157@aol.com wrote: > > JimmyG wrote: > > >Last year in Raleigh...NOT ENOUGH. > >Last year in York......NOT ENOUGH!! > >This year in NYC.......NOT ENOUGH!!!! > > > >We want more live funk!! > > > >Liz and I are planning a Ohio mini-vacation for the end of July. We'll > >be at the Cleveland and Toldeo concerts. > > > > Jim Giranda > > > > > > Hey Jim, > > Just got my info. from AAA in the mail yesterday for a possible trip to Ohio. > Hope to see you and Liz there! > > Bugsy...Alrighta! Bugsy..Nice to hear from ya. Yeah, that would be great...maybe we could organize a roadkill get together at some watering hole in Cleveland or Toledo. I already got our plane tics...I still need to plan out our hotels, etc. We plan on doing 4 days...hope to see both Funk concerts and hit Sea World, Cedar Point, etc. Jimmy G. ------------------------------ From: Tony Cawthorne Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:42:18 -0400 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED Mike Butler wrote: > > frankbauer@thevine.net wrote: > > > keep in mind, the whole merchandising thing didn't kick into high gear > > > > until the stones tour in 81, well after gfr stopped touring. it was > > obvious to me at the greek that the gfr people aren't up to speed on > > this aspect of marketing the band. they will be more than happy to > > let > > the diehards on roadkill get the business rolling until they start > > getting protective of their turf. then you will be showing shirts to > > cops and lawyers, not mark or david. i hope i'm wrong... > > frank > > > > to: IN:WHIRLEGREG@aol.com > > cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com > > That's a risk I'm willing to take. The shirts are doing nothing but > helping the band. I gave one to a DJ here in town and he's going to wear > it at a huge outdoor summer concert here in Vegas called "Junefest". > They'll be about 50,000 people seeing the shirt, and learning about the > comeback. > > I'm going to do whatever I can to promote the band. I'm going to keep > printing the shirts for the brother and sisters out there who want them. > At $10 a shirt, there are no profits (the 48 that were printed wrong, I > ate). > > If the cops and lawyers want a piece of me - bring it on. > > I do hope the bands management will open up some merchandising channels, > it's obvious to me the demand is there. > > -=Mike=- There are some people out there trying to give you some shit about those shirts...well as Mark once said..."Don't take it....Don't take it!" Love the Shirts and I for one will buy one! KEEP ON FUNKENGRUVEN!!!!! T.C. ------------------------------ From: Tony Cawthorne Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:46:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Concert Videos WEBSTER KEITH wrote: > > Do any of my fellow FUNKSTERS know where or how i can get info on any of > GFR's concerts that might be on video, I already know that Dave(Staat) > has some. But I was wondering if Capitol or any other music companys > might have some. > > Peace and Love.....Keep the FUNK Alive. > > Keith8-) I know Funk did some shows on the old T.V. series "In CONCERT" and they were some great shows. Maybe we could find out where to get or hands on a few copies of those...if anyone else has ANY vidio's of the FUNK in concert I would pay for a copy shipping and all and donate $100.00 in FUNKS name to the Bosnian relief fund....If we really wanna get some attention here for this group and for FUNK and their cause thats the way we need to do it...Whos with me?! T.C. ------------------------------ From: GRANDFUNKR@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GET FUNKED It seems to me the fan clubs and people on the list are doing more for the band than their own damn management , so some of the success right now is due to people like us that love the band , we aren't making money like the promoters ! If Funk fans want a little history (even if they make it themselves ) more power to them . Grand Funk has been a victim of bad press most of their careers , so something good has to happen sooner or later . !! ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:20:01 -0700 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED And Another Thing, GFR, themselves, probably would not get involved in much of that stuff. It would most likely the people distributing the related merchandise. I'm sure it will get licensed and trademarked and all that legal crap. In the meantime, since they are behind the eight ball on this stuff, and publicity is the name of the game right now, they are going to let it slide for now. This will not last. It will end someday, so let's rock and roll while the climate is good!! I have a couple of the Funkengruven shirts and I will wear them proudly in Vegas (unless the T-shirt police are around). "Mr. Maijala, will you step on the curb please. Now, may I see your T-shirt aproval certicate please. What!, no certificate?! Drop down and recite the second verse of "Sally" right now!!!!!" Just my opinion, Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:29:36 -0700 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED Don't worry Mike, They wouldn't dare come after you. You are a Funk Head. One of the few, proud, (misguided). You dare to be different, you walk to the beat of the different drummer (Don). You strum a strange Axe(Mark). You are grounded by good Bass(Mel). Besides, I bought some shirts from you and I like them very much. Be sure to send me the remaining two when you get them. Jim ------------------------------ From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What Funk? >Don't worry Mike, They wouldn't dare come after you. You are a Funk Head. >One >of the few, proud, (misguided). You dare to be different, you walk to the beat >of the different drummer (Don). You strum a strange Axe(Mark). You are >grounded by good Bass(Mel). > >Besides, I bought some shirts from you and I like them very much. Be sure to >send me the remaining two when you get them. > >Jim Yo Mike...Jayola here.....RULES WERE MEANT TO BE BROKEN! GET FUNKED! as JAMES BROWN SAID...SAY IT LOUD!!!!!!!!!! GET FUNKED AND BE PROUD!!!!!!!! Well, thats not exactly what he said but....WHO STARTED THIS TEE WAR ANYWAY! I'm PISSED OVER IT! MIKE....You deserve a MEDAL FOR DOING IT GETTING THE TEES TO THE FANS!!!!!!!!!I mean....SOMEtimes I wonder if it wasn't for us ml'ers out here...where would the press be????? the support you know?????? The Sonics:The All Music Site! Closer To Home & Shinin' On! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:53:49 -0700 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED jmaijala@sprynet.com wrote: > > Don't worry Mike, They wouldn't dare come after you. You are a Funk Head. One > of the few, proud, (misguided). You dare to be different, you walk to the beat > of the different drummer (Don). You strum a strange Axe(Mark). You are > grounded by good Bass(Mel). > > Besides, I bought some shirts from you and I like them very much. Be sure to > send me the remaining two when you get them. > > Jim Cool Jim... Funksster tom ------------------------------ From: "Robert T. Murphy" Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 23:02:50 -0400 Subject: Video's of GFR Saw someone requesting videos of GFR and other than "boot" videos I have seen at guitar shows the only other place I have seen them advertized is for an outfit called The Right Choice 45-40 Bell Blvd Bayside, New York 11361 Telephone 212-603-9078 I know nothing of the quality or reputation of the business except that I have seen them advertized in various guitar magazines over the past few years. They list a VHS-714 Grand Funk Live in California 1974 and show a price of $30.00 + $4.00 shipping and handling. Stop by my web site and say hello...(I do not have any GFR but its only because I do not have any pictures of the guys playing at a show...its one of the things I like to have...real concert or show photos...anyone got any that they will let me use????) - ----------- Murf.... Email me at "murf01@sprynet.com" Visit my Web Page "http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/murf01/murfmain.htm" Visit the GUITAR FACTORY "http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/murf01/gftop.htm" Visit Boyle Engineering at "http://www.boyleengineering.com" ------------------------------ From: Twin123185@aol.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 23:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: NYC Video I am getting a video tape of the NYC show. Anyone seen it yet ?? Curious about the quality. Thanks Larry ------------------------------ From: frankbauer@thevine.net Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 01:15:58 -0800 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED >GFR, themselves, probably would not get involved in much of that stuff. It >would most likely the people distributing the related merchandise. I'm sure >will get licensed and trademarked and all that legal crap. >In the meantime, since they are behind the eight ball on this stuff, and >publicity is the name of the game right now, they are going to let it slide >now. This will not last. It will end someday, so let's rock and roll while >climate is good!! what he said! that's what i was trying to say but it probably sounded a bit more cynical... frank to: IN:jmaijala@sprynet.com cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:09:46 -0700 Subject: t-shirts MIKE I think there is nothing wrong with promoting GFR with your shirts if your not making a profit.Every bit of promotion helps,it for sure cant hurt them. PAT ------------------------------ From: Joe McLean Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:49:21 -0400 Subject: Re: GET FUNKED Man, did I ever get off on the wrong foot. It was never my intention to give you or anybody else "shit" about the tees. Honestly, my legal question was based solely out of curiousity. You see there seemed to be interest so I was considering printing up some GET FUNKED tees, mainly out of love of the band, to let people know they are back. So I talked to a printer buddy of mine who told me that using their name and/or graphics was illegal. As for the $15 charge I think my time and effort ought to worth something even if you don't. I have an established web site that has been up for 2 years and was considering adding a gfr section. I am now reconsidering the whole thing. I could care less if you are making 10 cents or 100 dollars per shirt. The publicity and exposure from people wearing your tees, my tees, or any tees that refers to the gfr comeback is very valuable to the band. As far as giving any profit money to Fishof goes, my question has to be, why?? Don't you feel that the exposure you are creating for the band has any value?? You may believe that I am greedy, that's your option, but I thought I was doing a good thing for the bands exposure as well as giving fans something they wanted. So, let's put this issue to rest. Later, Joe WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > alright! now you are getting it! i had a hand in the creation of a "logo" > of the roadkill folks on the back of the shirts which includes my name. the > band got a kick out of it and since we list the internet site addresses on > the back side they know it will help them. we expect to add the members > sites to the list as they open up! and at $8+2 s/h there are no profits!! > very good!!! but the proceeds that come from the 8+2 's that i kick in for > those who want shirts but forget to send me moulah for shirts produced by > 1kfrr that i bought for them? (he who actually produces the product but to my > knowledge has never advertised here!) is in a jar in my kitchen and i will > give it to fishof when i see him at the ringo starr all starr's show here in > motown!!!! so in closing i still consider you a "brother" even if you have > only been a fan for 20 years but be cautious when entering a new areana like > roadkill with an ad as your calling card! greed does not becoming you! > we're for funk! how do i get a look at yours to see if i want to > "contribute more"??? > > con't > > Subj: Re: GET FUNKED > Date: 97-05-21 20:12:33 EDT > From: tac1@bellsouth.net (Tony Cawthorne) > Sender: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com > Reply-to: tac1@bellsouth.net (Tony Cawthorne) > To: 1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net (Mike Butler) > CC: frankbauer@thevine.net, grand-funk@roadkill.com (grand-funk@roadkill.com) > > Mike Butler wrote: > > > > frankbauer@thevine.net wrote: > > > > > keep in mind, the whole merchandising thing didn't kick into high gear > > > > > > until the stones tour in 81, well after gfr stopped touring. it was > > > obvious to me at the greek that the gfr people aren't up to speed on > > > this aspect of marketing the band. they will be more than happy to > > > let > > > the diehards on roadkill get the business rolling until they start > > > getting protective of their turf. then you will be showing shirts to > > > cops and lawyers, not mark or david. i hope i'm wrong... > > > frank > > > > > > to: IN:WHIRLEGREG@aol.com > > > cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com > > > > That's a risk I'm willing to take. The shirts are doing nothing but > > helping the band. I gave one to a DJ here in town and he's going to wear > > it at a huge outdoor summer concert here in Vegas called "Junefest". > > They'll be about 50,000 people seeing the shirt, and learning about the > > comeback. > > > > I'm going to do whatever I can to promote the band. I'm going to keep > > printing the shirts for the brother and sisters out there who want them. > > At $10 a shirt, there are no profits (the 48 that were printed wrong, I > > ate). > > > > If the cops and lawyers want a piece of me - bring it on. > > > > I do hope the bands management will open up some merchandising channels, > > it's obvious to me the demand is there. > > > > -=Mike=- > There are some people out there trying to give you some shit about those > shirts...well as Mark once said..."Don't take it....Don't take it!" > Love the Shirts and I for one will buy one! > > KEEP ON FUNKENGRUVEN!!!!! > > T.C. > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > >From owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Wed May 21 19:41:43 1997 > Return-Path: > Received: from roadkill.com (topquark.roadkill.com [207.15.29.87]) > by emin17.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id TAA28715; > Wed, 21 May 1997 19:41:35 -0400 (EDT) > Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by roadkill.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id > SAA13568 for grand-funk-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:40:39 -0500 > X-Authentication-Warning: topquark.roadkill.com: majordomo set sender to > owner-grand-funk using -f > Received: from mail.atl.bellsouth.net (mail.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.21]) > by roadkill.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13563 for > ; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:40:36 -0500 > Received: from tonyc-home (host-207-53-1-213.atl.bellsouth.net > [207.53.1.213]) > by mail.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07899; > Wed, 21 May 1997 19:40:30 -0400 (EDT) > Message-ID: <3383885A.A27BDA8E@bellsouth.net> > Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:42:18 -0400 > From: Tony Cawthorne > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> > CC: frankbauer@thevine.net, > "grand-funk@roadkill.com" > Subject: Re: GET FUNKED > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > References: > <33834EAE.53A8D9C9@vegasnet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: Tony Cawthorne - -- ***************************************************** Joe McLean Nature's Medicine Cabinet http://www.shore.net/~jm/welcome.htm Auto-Pilot Home Business http://www.shore.net/~jm/life/auto.html ***************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Bugsy41157@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: MORE LIVE FUNK!! Jimmy G wrote: >Bugsy..Nice to hear from ya. Yeah, that would be great...maybe we could >organize a roadkill get together at some watering hole in Cleveland or >Toledo. I already got our plane tics...I still need to plan out our >hotels, etc. We plan on doing 4 days...hope to see both Funk concerts >and hit Sea World, Cedar Point, etc. > > Jimmy G. > > Hey Jim, Let's keep in touch on this. Obviously, tickets are a priority. Once we've secured them, the rest will be cake. Then we can have the Cleveland version of the Westside! Bugsy...Alrighta! PS...Did that secretary of yours bring in any other good stuff yet? ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Hmm-mm-mm What happened to the exciting words of Grand Funk LIVE on stage grinding out music that stirred the audience like a boiling pot.... Or the comments on the Music of the Millenium created by three "regular-ol-nice-guys" who brought a garage band into the worlds eyes.... Or the ease in identifying with music that was of such a nature that it could be learned by young musicians who played it in teen dances for a $100 gig.... Or the fascination with the "Triplet-Drum-King," Don, and the "double-picking-gut-churning" bass of Mel, or the "quick-pick-finger-string-drag" of Mark..... Or the mind-blowing questions about T.N.U.C...... : ) ..... This is not a court room...this is a place to have some fun....Grand Funk Fun! Hey, I'm not a girl,...but I just wanna have fun 2 ! Man, everyone seems to tense....(stop right here, get up and go whip your neighbor's kids.... ought'a feel better now / you been wanting to do that a long time haven't you?) You want to ponder something? Ponder this: Who could play triplets faster than Don Brewer? ....... Now, let me have it....take 2 aspirin....and e-mail me in the morning / : > Joe (the other Joe) In2theSon! ------------------------------ From: "joieb" Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:09:29 -0500 Subject: Fw: Hmm-mm-mm I agree In2theSon! *LOL*! But it WAS kind of an interesting discussion anyway! Thanks to everyone involved! Lisa (Budrock's wife) - ---------- > From: In2theSon@aol.com > To: grand-funk@roadkill.com > Subject: Hmm-mm-mm > Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 2:37 PM > > What happened to the exciting words of Grand Funk LIVE on stage grinding out > music that stirred the audience like a boiling pot.... > Or the comments on the Music of the Millenium created by three > "regular-ol-nice-guys" who brought a garage band into the worlds eyes.... > Or the ease in identifying with music that was of such a nature that it could > be learned by young musicians who played it in teen dances for a $100 gig.... > Or the fascination with the "Triplet-Drum-King," Don, and the > "double-picking-gut-churning" bass of Mel, or the > "quick-pick-finger-string-drag" of Mark..... > Or the mind-blowing questions about T.N.U.C...... : ) ..... > This is not a court room...this is a place to have some fun....Grand Funk > Fun! Hey, I'm not a girl,...but I just wanna have fun 2 ! Man, everyone > seems to tense....(stop right here, get up and go whip your neighbor's > kids.... ought'a feel better now / you been wanting to do that a long time > haven't you?) > You want to ponder something? Ponder this: Who could play triplets faster > than Don Brewer? ....... > Now, let me have it....take 2 aspirin....and e-mail me in the morning / : > > Joe (the other Joe) In2theSon! ------------------------------ From: "joieb" Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:12:35 -0500 Subject: Fw: Courtroom humor I thought maybe a joke would lighten everyone's mood! Laughing again... Lisa (Budrock's wife) > Subject: Courtroom humor > Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 3:55 AM > > The following is a courtroom exchange between a defense attorney and a > farmer with a bodily injury claim. It came from a Houston, Texas insurance > agent. > > Attorney: "At the scene of the accident, did you tell the constable you had > never felt better in your life?" > > Farmer: "That's right." > > Attorney: "Well, then, how is it that you are now claiming you were seriously > injured when my client's auto hit your wagon?" > > Farmer: "When the constable arrived, he went over to my horse, who had a broken > leg, and shot him. Then he went over to Rover, my dog, who was all banged up, > and shot him. When he asked me how I felt, I just thought under the > circumstances, it was a wise choice of words to say I've never felt better in my > life. > ------------------------------ From: Nancy Barravecchio Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:21:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Live album I thought ti was recorded at the Atlantic Pops festival....Does anyone know if there is any video footage of that concert around? Bless Nancy............... At 05:43 PM 5/16/97 -0400, you wrote: >Was anyone at the Concert when the Live Album was recorded? or was it as >several locations? (I got the idea it was in Madison Square Garden (?) - I >ain't from NY). >Anyway, the question is: After the normal close of "Into The Sun" Mel and >Don return to playing and Farner "rips his blisters" playing guitar. Not >long into that lead, the crowd goes wild (I mean) W-I-L-D!.......what was >Farner doing? I know all the guitar dancing he'd do all over the stage, but >from the crowd response, it sounds like he was throwing $100 bills. Man! I'd >like to have been there! >"That's some power of the people!" Joe > In Love and Light, Nancy B. ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fwd: Hmm-mm-mm - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: nancy@cyberdata.com (Nancy Barravecchio) To: In2theSon@aol.com Date: 97-05-22 16:48:40 EDT Not to take anything away from the Don the man, but.......there are some contenders for the pillar of greatness to keep Don company like: Names I do know: Neil Pert (I think thats how you spell it) Alex Van Halen (mainly because of the kit size) Keith Moon (although he would be there in spirit) Jack Bruce (mentioned by co-worker) Names I don't: Led Zeppelin's drummer (although hes dead too) Queens drummer Styx's original drummer (also dead) Aerosmith's drummer (well maybe) Heartlines drummer (anyone out there even heard of these guys.....) But to ponder on...What about Marks fast licks......who could be his smoky mountain partner? >You want to ponder something? Ponder this: Who could play triplets faster >than Don Brewer? ....... >Now, let me have it....take 2 aspirin....and e-mail me in the morning / : > > Joe (the other Joe) In2theSon! > In Love and Light, Nancy B. ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:15:14 -0700 Subject: A little humor Subject: Girlfriend Upgrade Last year, my friend upgraded his GirlFriend 3.1 to GirlFriendPlus 1.0 (Marketing name: Fiancee 1.0). Recently he upgraded Fiancee 1.0 to Wife 1.0 and it's a memory hogger, it has taken all his space. And Wife 1.0 must be running before he can do anything. Although he did not ask for it, Wife 1.0 came with Plug-Ins such as MotherInLaw and BrotherInLaw. Some features I'd like to see in the Upcoming GirlFriend 4.0: - - A "Don't remind me again" button - - Minimize button - - Shutdown feature - - An install shield feature so that Girlfriend 4.0 can be completely uninstalled if so desired (so you don't lose cache and other objects) I tried running Girlfriend 2.0 with Girlfriend 1.0 still installed. They tried using the same i/o port and conflicted. Then I tried to uninstall Girlfriend 1.0 but it didn't have an uninstall program. I tried to uninstall it by hand, but it put files in my system directory. Another thing that sucks in all versions of Girlfriend that I've used is that it is totally "object orientated" and only supported hardware with gold plated contacts. ******* BUG WARNING ******** Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before doing the uninstall itself. Then Mistress 1.1 will refuse to install, claiming insufficient resources. - -- ------------------------------ From: Stephen Barber Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:12:42 -0400 Subject: Poll Hi gals and guys, I haven't posted anything recently, but I have really enjoyed reading yours. I would like to conduct a poll. Please send me (not the list) your list of albums in order of favorite to least favorite. I'll accept e-mail for several weeks and then let y'all know how the poll turns out. I heard the live version of PARANOID last night for the first time in years. It was great! On the Train in Dixie! Stephen Romans 10:9 ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:23:10 -0400 Subject: MAJOR NEWS I took the liberty of copying the following from Sunny Quinn's site... oh yeah...the railroad is back on track!!!! Jimmy G. Update time! It's been a little slow lately, as the guys have been working in studio in LA. But everyone's home now, and Don and I have been riding around in the car eating Hagan-daz (sp?) ice cream... listening to the BRAND NEW LIVE GRAND FUNK BOSNIAN RELIEF DOUBLE CD ...RECORDED AT THE PALACE OF AUBURN HILLS near Detroit. It won't be released until August...but trust me....it's GREAT! I'm very impressed with the final mix and production...you won't be disappointed! Also, be on the lookout for other new releases before the end of the year! I'll keep you posted. We head to Japan in a few weeks.....ahhhh soooo! Later! Sunny ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:24:29 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Concert Tickets] Received: from thevine.net (mailhub.scvgvine.com [207.155.40.3]) by iota.pair.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA15090 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:06:55 -0400 (EDT) From: frankbauer@thevine.net X-Envelope-To: Received: from MHS by thevine.net with MHS id BHAFBGCK ; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:05:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:05:22 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Concert Tickets To: donna@meclec.com donna sez: >If I remember correctly, I think the Auburn Hills, Beacon and Greek >shows did not show up on Pollstar & Ticketmaster until 1 week? before >the shows. i'm a season subscriber at the greek and had ordered my gfr tix 5 weeks prior to the show, so the greek bo certainly knew about it by the end of march... frank ps - quite unusual to get a two set, no opener show at the greek. lotsa la regulars showed up for the 2nd set, and missed the best part imho... ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #65 *******************************