From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #57 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Friday, 9 May 1997 Volume 01 : Number 057 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:44:54 -0700 Subject: Re: T.N.U.C TNUC hmmmm maybe it means 1. Totally NUClear 2. Tonight No Uncle Charlie 3. Tommorrow Never Understands Chit 4. Tubular Neaderthals UnChained 5. I can't think of anything else Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:49:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Vegas Phil, You know I will be there, along with my wife (or son) and a buddy from work named R.J. and his wife (or son). So that's four (quatro, 4,one less than cinco). Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:53:56 -0700 Subject: Re: ...no subject... (fwd) As to a possible FunkFest, or is that feast, I probably would not be able to go to New York. Can't get the time off work, family issues, the usual rot. However, something out West may be a possiblity. How about a resort town or something. Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:59:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Funkfests Narqualung, my friend, don't you go away uneasy. I'd like to have an informal (or formal) Funkkkkkkfesssst out west. Jim ------------------------------ From: frankbauer@thevine.net Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 11:05:44 -0800 Subject: When is a Chair not a Chair? >When is a chair not a chair? Good question. We all know what a chair is >, but what are the essential elements it must have to be a chair? >What does this have to do with GFR? Good question. It just struck me the >other day, while reading a post (by Phil?) about Grand Funk albums >without Mel not being Grabnd Funk, that GFR is one of the very few bands >who needs all the elements to be Grand Funk. If it ain't got ALL THREE >of Mark, Don and Mel, it may be good, but it ain't GFR. >How many other bands require all members present to be considered the >band? Obviosely not the Stones, who have switched and replaced happily, >nor Pink Floyd, nor almost any other band I can think off. >In fact, the only other ones that come immediately to mind are the >Beatles, Cream, The Who (someone said Who turns after Keith Moon's death >were just session musicians, that included former Who members, covering >Who songs), and Led Zeppelin. Given five minutes, I'm sure I could think >of more. All of these bands were ones which required (or would require) >all members present to be considered the proper band. Ken: this merely proves two points: - - the rhythm section is essential to any rock band (i.e. kieth moon) - - it is impossible to remove one third of a trio without removing the essence of the band (cream without eric? yikes! gfr without mark? (shiver!)) frank to: IN:ken.blackley@agric.gov.ab.ca cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 14:24:57 -0700 Subject: Re: Funkfests jmaijala@sprynet.com wrote: > > Narqualung, my friend, don't you go away uneasy. I'd like to have an informal > (or formal) Funkkkkkkfesssst out west. > > Jim Jim, I am sitting on a parkbench in the Midwest, watching all the Funkheads with rad intent (hold on, gotta find some kleenex again). I am up for a Funkfest in Colorado in either '97 or '98, but I will travel anywhere it is held unless it interferes with the 24th and 25th year reunions of my Marine unit from the Southeast Asian Wargames. A handful of us get together every year at my place, but in '98 it is a full unit reunion in Myrtle Beach. I am a leader of the Yellow Back Barking Cobra Club, which is comprised of former enlisted men and we threw a full unit reunion in Houston in '93. I know full well the weight of planning and organizing events; the road-kill gig should be a skate. Which reminds me......you should have heard Grand Funk Railroad blasting out of a quad stereo with 3' speakers in the middle of the northern Thai jungle during "generator hours". I'll bet that's why we were never hit! (Yes, for the uninformed, there was a lot of guerilla activity in Thailand, too. And yes, even living in tents, we had a couple quad stereos available!) I wonder what the indigenous people thought when they heard that GFR rhythm and wailing guitar in the middle of the night? Of course, I wonder what they thought of Black Sabbath's Paranoid album? Hmmmmm......... Later, narqualung ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: BL's list of video for GFR Thanks for the list of BL's -- The ratings? "Anybody's Answer" I'll check it out....or I think I may already have. Thanks! =) J ------------------------------ From: DrBlut@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Fave Funkheads Bands: Addition Jim K. from Nashville - I forgot one of my very favorites on the top ten list that I submitted earlier - Alice Cooper! Jim K. drblut@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Shinin' On Hey Funkers, I just bought the Shinin' On CD (label from CEMA Special Markets, a subsidiary of Capitol-EMI). It was in the bargain rack at $7.99 - so I just had to get it. I listened to the "first side" on the way home, and have these thoughts: I wholeheartedly agree with some of the past letters posted here that Todd Rundgren overproduced the Boys. I never realized it, but someone had said that Mel's bass was non-existent, and they were absolutely correct. On "To Get Back In," you wouldn't even know there was any bass on it. This is a great song that would have been far better with a heavier bass line. I hadn't listened to this album in years. Man, was I surprised how strange "Carry Me Through" sounded. Again, way overproduced! The keyboards are mish-mashed throughout. This is a most unFunk-like song. The title song sounded excellent. (Only drawback - too little bass), and "Loco-motion" actually had a good bass foundation and sounded fine. So, thanks to this list you can discover little facts that are sometimes overlooked - i.e. how Rundgren screwed up an otherwise excellent album. The realization of his production here makes me appreciate the follow up efforts produced by Jimmy Ienner. ATGITWB is an often overlooked album. In fact, "Responsibility" is one of my favorite Funk songs. By the way, the "Shinin' On" disc has no liner notes at all. But the sound quality is real good. Gas & Oil Guy P.S. Funkfest in NY sounds better with each passing day. If there any canoeists, let me know. We do a canoe/camp trip on the Upper Delaware River every July. E-mail me if you're interested. Maybe we can have a beer at the Cedar Rapids Inn. ------------------------------ From: In2theSon@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: T.N.U.C/Jim's List Jim............ #5. T.hose N.atural, U.ncooked C.hitlins m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-mmmmmmmm! ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Mick Fellow Roadkillers... Mick wanted me to let you guys know that although he has TEMPORARILY bailed out of the roadkill list he is NOT out of the picture! First of all, I am keeping him up to date on the important stuff. Secondly, he is working on getting email from a home computer. As soon as he does that I'm sure a roadkill subscription will be first and foremost! Third, I will foreward anything he wants me to to the roadkill list. Fourth, You can always send anything directly to me to get to him. There may be a little time delay because I'm trying to send him stuff in bulk, like once a day or something like that. But anything important I would send immediately. So, not all is lost! On a similar subject, I'm gonna have to cut way down on my participation because I just started on a new project here at MCI this past Monday. You know how that goes...new job...gotta be cool...gotta work real hard...etc, etc... But, I will do my best to keep up. See ya, Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: DrBlut@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Fave Funkheads Bands Jim K. from Nashville here. Here are my top ten favorite bands: Grand Funk Railroad Joe Cocker Blood, Sweat & Tears (with David Clayton-Thomas) Chicago (with Terry Kath) Sepultura Entombed Beatles Faces (with Rod Stewart) Humble Pie (with or without Peter Frampton, with Steve Marriott) Leon Russell Have a happy day :-) Jim K. drblut@aol.com ------------------------------ From: frankbauer@thevine.net Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:14:52 -0800 Subject: Shinin' On >I just bought the Shinin' On CD (label from CEMA Special Markets, a >subsidiary of Capitol-EMI). It was in the bargain rack at $7.99 - so I just >had to get it. >I listened to the "first side" on the way home, and have these thoughts: >I wholeheartedly agree with some of the past letters posted here that Todd >Rundgren overproduced the Boys. I never realized it, but someone had said >that Mel's bass was non-existent, and they were absolutely correct. On "To >Get Back In," you wouldn't even know there was any bass on it. This is a >great song that would have been far better with a heavier bass line. keep in mind that the CEMA stuff is crapola (perhaps the bargain price is a clue) and i expect the Capitol reissues to be a significant improvement. if you want to hear what it's supposed to sound like, take your vinyl to a high end stereo shop or a buddy who has some decent equipment. overproduced compared to the first few albums? maybe. that's a matter of taste, not quality. nonexistent bass, mish mash keyboards, no liner notes? doesn't sound like quality to me. don't blame todd, he's no slouch behind the board! to: IN:Gasnoilguy@aol.com cc: IN:grand-funk@roadkill.com ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 19:02:47 -0400 Subject: Re: LIVE steelhorse wrote: > > jgiranda@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > So I'm sitting in my office this morning, and in walks Martha, my > > secretary..she's holding something behind her back. I say, what da ya > > got behind there? She's prances up to the desk smiling, then whips out > > the Grand Funk double live album...I'm caught off guard and say, Holy > > S--T, where did you get that? She says she's cleaning out all of her > > ex-husbands stuff from her house (just got divorced)..and she ran across > > some GFR albums..knowing I talk & live Grand Funk..she gives me the > > album. I have "Live" on CD, but my double album has been missing in > > action since my college days..so I open the album and out falls a > > pristine poster..the records look like new. > > > > What will she bring in tomorrow??? > > > > Jim Giranda > > Maybe the Shinin' On LP with the 3D glasses!!!!! MARTHA REPORT....... Nope...today she brings in the Closer to Home album. A funk album a day keeps Jimmy G. OK. Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 17:30:02 -0700 Subject: MEL HEY, I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, I CANNOT SEE GRAND FUNK WITHOUT MEL. MABE HE IS NOT AS HIGH PROFILE AS MARK & DON BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MARK DON & MEL FOR ME! WHAT AN AWESOME 3 PIECE BAND! I SAW THEM RECENTLY AT THE GREEK IN L.A. AND I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE IT ANY OTHER WAY- THE ORIGINAL THREE... THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. STAY FUNKY, AND FEELIN ALRIGHT, CAUSE THERE AINT NO NEED TO CHANGE AND EVEN THOUGH NOTHING IS THE SAME IS ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITES, SOME THINGS JUST ARE BEST LEFT THE WAY IT IS!!!!!!!!INDEED, IN NEED! TOM ------------------------------ From: tom fagan Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 18:01:08 -0700 Subject: IN NEED HAS ANY ONE OUT THERE SEEN GFR PERFORME AT A CONCERT 'IN NEED' I WANTED THEM TO DO IT BACK IN '72' AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM SINCE THE L.A. CONCERT MAY 2ND. ALSO DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN SEND A LETTER TO MARK FARNER JUST TO LET HIM KNOW HOW MUCH HE HAS INFLUENCED ME WITH HIS MUSIC AND LERICS. TOM ------------------------------ From: Roverpick@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: re: Shinin On I also do not agree with the thoery that Shinin On is overproduced. That conclusion comes from listening to an abundance of the early stuff. Everything from waab on is just prime examples of the phase 2 funk music. I also want to put my two cents worth in regarding the CD vote list. I wish a little more emphasis was being put on the later albums since they have NEVER been released on CD. At least the olders ones are ou there in some form already. I truly believe they will all get the Capitol treatment sooner or later. ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 18:47:02 -0700 Subject: Re: GFR CD Vote I got an idea today on my way home from work concerning this very issue, and will e-mail Sunny about it when I get it working. I will create a CGI script that will only allow the person voting to choose from the list and enter a brief comment, and then the vote will be e-mailed to her. This will also be easier for her to read the votes. Donna ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 19:04:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Funkfests I know Allen and I can swing a western Funkfest this summer, as long as it's within driving distance for us and on a weekend. (It's very difficult for us to take time off work.) Keep me updated, Donna ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 19:12:40 -0700 Subject: Re: T.N.U.C Or how about Tour Naught Um Creedle? (Don't ask!) : ) Donna jmaijala@sprynet.com wrote: > > TNUC hmmmm maybe it means > > 1. Totally NUClear > 2. Tonight No Uncle Charlie > 3. Tommorrow Never Understands Chit > 4. Tubular Neaderthals UnChained > 5. I can't think of anything else > > Jim ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 19:18:48 -0700 Subject: Re: TNUC Ah, don't fret Mickey, these guys love these kindof questions, don't you boys? Donna ------------------------------ From: Donna Wightman Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 19:33:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Vegas WE ARE THERE DUED!!!!! Allen & Donna ------------------------------ From: "John Elton" Date: Thu, 08 May 97 20:07:04 -0500 Subject: Grand Funk Railroad - -- [ From: rocksjte * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Hello there fans! I have some questions? 1. Any video or audio from any of the three shows so far. 2. Any word when the Detroit concert will be on TV or when the video will be released! 3. What about the live cd from the Detroit show! John Elton rocksjte@lesters.com ------------------------------ From: Pamuska@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 00:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: memories Hi all, after reading all the notes about GFR I thought I would pass on my memories of Grand Funk. You see I was a Junior in high school in 1974 when GFR came to Tulsa Okla. I guess it was the Caught in the Act tour. I had been to 2 other concerts up til then and was really looking forward to my first Real rock concert. As we were filing into the Convention Center you could feel the excitement in the air. Wet Willie was the warm up band and they did a great job getting everyone in the mood to rock. Just like on the cd just before the lights came on there was the dangest bang and then the fireworks took off. Of course I thought I had died and went to heaven. Mark was all over the stage. That man has the most energy I had ever seen on stage. The concert was great and there was no disappointments that night. Fast foward to 1985. Mark Farner comes to Bartlesville Ok to play at a dive here. I took off work to go and for almost 2 hours he had us all in his palm of his hand. He played all the GFR hits plus several of his solo songs. I planted my butt right by the speakers and for almost an hour after the show I couldn't hear.!! It was worth it. After the show Mark met with the fans for almost another hour. I got to shake his hand and shoot the breeze for about 10 minutes. That it is one nice guy. I was suprised by his shortness in height!. But you could tell that in his spare time(like he had any) he pumps iron. You talk about a solid built man. I could go on and on but must get ready for work. Mickey ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 00:12:36 -0700 Subject: Capitol CD's Guys, I sent my vote to Sunny for 1)Shinin' On 2)ATGITWB 3)BTD and 4)MD&M. I would die for 1,2 & 3 on CD. Man, I'm listening to BTD on 8-TRACK! GFRR doesn't play tunes from GF Lives or What's Funk because most wouldn't recognize the tunes. I blame this on the bozos at Warner Brothers releasing "Y.O.U." as the 1st single in 1981. I've seen Mark do "Rock & Roll American Style", "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place" and "Queen Bee". I also saw Don and Graig Frost with Bob Seger in 1983. Did I see the Silver Bullet Band or not? I think that Mel and Don are fine professional musicians and Don is a pretty good songwriter himself, but I've always considered GFRR as the Mark Farner show. What a songwriter! I've seen Farner solo at least 15 times and when I close my eyes, I can't tell the difference either. I have never seen Mark or GFRR do "In Need". Talk soon. Later, guys. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NEED THIS INFO. Hi Funkheads! Some Funky just signed my guestbook in support of the FUNK who was it? please I need name/state/country & fave tune to submit! thanks Jayola Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 20:46:04 -0700 From: nobody@exodus.content.earthlink.net (SVR4 nobody uid) To: thesonics@earthlink.net Subject: Guestbook - Date: Thu May 8 20:46:04 PDT 1997 Jay, I've been a Grand Funk fan since 1969! I've seen many Funk concerts, the best being the 1974 concert at the Civic Arena in Pittsburgh, PA. The group "Bloodrock" opened for them...they were very good also. Whatever happened to "Bloodrock"? I can- not find any of their albums on CD or cassette. I loved their song "D.O.A.". As for Grand Funk, they were and still are the best @#$-kicking band in the world! Anyone who witnessed their April 20th Detroit concert certainly would have to agree! As for a favorite Funk song, I've always been fond of "Heartbreaker" and "Hooked on Love". And the T.N.U.C. drum solo is still the best drum solo in rock history, by far! Donny Brewer puts so much heart and soul into it. I sure hope they come back to Pittsburgh this sum- mer! Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:12:25 -0700 From: nobody@exodus.content.earthlink.net (SVR4 nobody uid) To: thesonics@earthlink.net Reply-To: mashley223@aol.com Subject: Guestbook - mashley223@aol.com Date: Thu May 8 18:12:25 PDT 1997 I hope more of Grand Funk's albums will be re-released on C.D. I also hope they pay special attention when remastering the sounds. I agree with one of the other comments made about the release of the Closer to Home C.D. The early G.F.R. tune had a heavy bass, one reason is because of them being a three piece band. Three piece or four piece, thier tunes were the greatist. I'm happy they are back!!!! LOUD AND PROUD//GRAND FUNK RAILROAD The Sonics:The All Music Site! Closer To Home & Shinin' On! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ ------------------------------ From: MS21@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:52:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Fwd: GFR CD Vote I did include Good Singin, Good Playin in the list to Sunny, but I did highlight it wasn't from Capitol. Just thought I'd paint a total picture of what I would like released on domestic CD (yes I know there are imports of these) for all the funkheads also. As you can see on the attached, I don't think it's much of a problem. I think Sunny can filter out the non-Capitol ones easily. Any comments Sunny? Mark - ------Begin forward message------------------------- Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 10:48:56 -0400 From: Sunny Quinn To: MS21@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Fwd: GFR CD Vote Thanks Mark! Consider your vote counted! sq MS21@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Sunny, > > My preference,in order, for those albums that have yet to be put on CD: > > 1)On Time > 2)Grand Funk (red album) > 3)Grand Funk Live > 4)Phoenix > 5)Good Singin, Good Playin (MCA, not Capitol) > 6)Shinin' On > 7)All the Girls in the World Beware > 8)Born to Die > > Mark Scarano Other relates messages: Sunny, My preferences are: 1)Grand Funk Live 2)Good Singin, Good Playin 3)What's Funk 4)Born to Die 5)Phoenix 6)and Funk Lives! 7)Shinin' On 8)All the Girls in the World Beware > - - Doug "So what if you can't fool all the people all the time; most of them aren't paying attention in the first place." ddevers@viagrafix.com Phil Catalano wrote: > I don't want to be an A-Hole here folks, but... I've seen people including CDs > that were NOT, i repeat NOT, on Sunny's list. For example in this one...Good > Singin', What's Funk, Funk Lives...Let's keep to the designated list otherwise > we're not doing any good. > > Phil Hi Phil, You are absolutely correct for pointing this out. Sunny did specify that Capitol is the label looking to release the CD's. Maybe after the reunion is steamrolling along, MCA and Full Moon will get off their rumps and get with the program. They won't do it 'till they smell the money though. Randy - ------End forward message--------------------------- ------------------------------ From: bluetuna@webtv.net (Rand Kelly) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 22:21:19 -0700 Subject: Re: T.N.U.C Totally Not Understood Correctly? DYSLEXIA could solve this once and for all. It took me 27yrs. too so don't feel bad for asking. Rand Kelly ------------------------------ From: bluetuna@webtv.net (Rand Kelly) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 22:40:08 -0700 Subject: Re: 3 somes-Bubble Puppy I have seen Hot Smoke and Sassafrass on a couple of the 60's compilations. I like the song very much, very groundbreaking for the time. Vocals remind me of YES. I think they were possibly inspired by BP. If I'm wrong, oops! God Bless You All. Rand Kelly ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 01:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Letterman? Was GFR ever on Letterman? I caught the last half hour of the show and didn't see them. Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: steve lisuk Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:02:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Letterman? according to Sunny Quinn, the plans were cancelled earlier in the week. The band is staying in LA working on new songs, and mixing the live Detroit show for release. At 01:54 AM 5/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >Was GFR ever on Letterman? I caught the last half hour of the show and didn't >see them. > >Paul >Bass6plyr@aol.com > ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:40:27 -0700 Subject: Re: T.N.U.C/Jim's List Chitlins, chitlins, oh my mouth waters at the mear mention of this. 6. They Never Understand Crap 7. The New Underware Creeper Hmmmmm, Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:57:47 -0700 Subject: re: Shinin On Here's an interesting disscussion, Some people are saying that the later albums, ie: Shinin' On, were over-produced and that the early stuff is better. Well, not much has been said about the Terry Knight influence on the early albums. I have the feeling that Terry is not a very popular guy among the GFR faithful. However, it is quite possible that Mark and the boys would have ended up working an assembly line in Dearborn if not for Terry Knight. While they did indeed have great difficulties later on, it is an injustice to disregard his contribution. Alot of people like the Survival album. This was done on his watch. Their hardest rocking album, E Pluribus Funk, was the last album he produced. Yes, yes, he tried to over-control the guys, but is that worse than overproduce? Many of us lost interest in GFR after they "Sold Out To the Teeny Boppers". Well, Terry cultivated the underground image that was a big part of the GFR mistique. Anybody want to comment on this, How about a debate? Listening to Closer to Home right now, Jim Maijala ------------------------------ From: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 07:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: memories > Recently Mickey wrote . . (snip). . . .I guess it was the Caught in the Act tour. I saw the same tour in Edmonton. It was word-for-word identical to the Live LP. Were the stage announcements identical at your show to the ones on the LP. Ours were. I nearly fell off my chair when I heard the intro to "Inside Looking Out" on the original Caught Live vinyl. I vivedly remembered him saying the same bit at our show! See Ya! - ----Ken ------------------------------ From: "joieb" Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:09:56 -0500 Subject: Fort Wayne, In!!!!!! I just read the July tour dates!!!!!!!!!! GFR is coming to MY town!!!!! I work as a stagehand here, so I will be running a spotlight and helping to set up and tear down the show!!!! I CANNOT believe it!!! *playing air guitar*......... The place where they will be playing, the Embassy Theater, is a renovated theater....everything has been kept original and it is awesome! Holds about 2000. I hope this date doesn't change...but I'm close to South Bend and Toledo too....I WILL see them..... Thanks so much for the info Donna!!!! Laughing and singing to myself....Budrock ------------------------------ From: "John Roehlen" Date: Fri, 9 May 97 09:33:04 CDT Subject: Monticello Concert I might be totally off, but isn't the Monticello/Jones County Fair in Iowa (July 19th date) instead of ID? ------------------------------ From: steelhorse Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 10:30:16 -0700 Subject: Martha-the-Goddess > > MARTHA REPORT....... > > Nope...today she brings in the Closer to Home album. A funk album a day > keeps Jimmy G. OK. > Jim Giranda That's it, just dig in some more! Ouch!!! I am most happy for you. Hey, if she runs across any spares, let me know!!! ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:54:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: GFR CD Vote Donna...You're awesome!!! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= On Thu, 8 May 1997, Donna Wightman wrote: > I got an idea today on my way home from work concerning this very issue, > and will e-mail Sunny about it when I get it working. > I will create a CGI script that will only allow the person voting to > choose from the list and enter a brief comment, and then the vote will > be e-mailed to her. This will also be easier for her to read the votes. > Donna > ------------------------------ From: steelhorse Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 11:16:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Shinin On jmaijala@sprynet.com wrote: > > Here's an interesting disscussion, > > Some people are saying that the later albums, ie: Shinin' On, were over-produced > and that the early stuff is better. Well, not much has been said about the > Terry Knight influence on the early albums. I have the feeling that Terry is > not a very popular guy among the GFR faithful. Not knowin' all there is to know 'bout this, I've pondered all the history and have some ideas on why GFR is still not accepted like we'd all like to see. The boys the Terry Knight go way back before GFR was thought of. Must have been good friends to go through all those early growing pains. Terry Knight took reins as producer. Don made a comment somewhere I saw regarding the split from Terry 'we were very naive back then about the arrangement'. This got me to thinking.... Terry probably stood between the media and the boys. Big shot producer image goes to his head. Gets irritated at all the media desires for knowledge and in the process of screening out the rifraf, p###@es off the wrong media people. Media gets turned away, they go back and pull a Stanley Mieses (know what I mean?). Terry continues to p@#@$ off A LOT of media. Meanwhile, the boys get shortchanged, moneywise too, and I figure somewhere around 1971, they say 'hey, in a few years when we get ready to retire, we'll still be struggling while Terry lives in a mansion, that WE put him in'. MD&M say 'go away, bad dream', fire Terry, and law suit begins. Am I in my cabin dreaming????? ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:39:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Oficial Web page??? Hi all, I've been in communication with Doug Pullen -- the music writ- er for the Flint Journal. He had some interesting things to tell me -- most of which has been rumored on this list before. But, he did have one new thing to say ... Doug told me (earlier this week) that Fishof's folks told him that there would be an official Grand Funk Web page up by this Friday. Well, that *is* today, has anybody else seen or heard anything? Just call me anxious and curious today, take care, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who really *believes* 42 is the answer... (42?) (__==__) +--------------------------+--------------------------+---- \ -- (oo) ---+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | /-------\/ | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| / | || | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | * ||----|| | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+--- ^^ -- ^^ -----+ ------------------------------ From: Narqualung@worldnet.att.net Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 11:54:01 -0700 Subject: Re: Fort Wayne, In!!!!!! joieb wrote: > > I just read the July tour dates!!!!!!!!!! GFR is coming to MY town!!!!! I > work as a stagehand here, so I will be running a spotlight and helping to > set up and tear down the show!!!! I CANNOT believe it!!! *playing air > guitar*......... > > The place where they will be playing, the Embassy Theater, is a renovated > theater....everything has been kept original and it is awesome! Holds > about 2000. > > I hope this date doesn't change...but I'm close to South Bend and Toledo > too....I WILL see them..... > > Thanks so much for the info Donna!!!! > > Laughing and singing to myself....Budrock Wrong, Budrock!!!!! They are coming to MY town!! South Bend...at the Morris Civic Auditorium!! We should hook up and go to both...... Thanks for the info Donna. Narqualung ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 10:12:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Official Web page??? William A. Parrette wrote: Hi all, I've been in communication with Doug Pullen -- the music writ- er for the Flint Journal. He had some interesting things to tell me -- most of which has been rumored on this list before. But, he did have one new thing to say ... Doug told me (earlier this week) that Fishof's folks told him that there would be an official Grand Funk Web page up by this Friday. Well, that *is* today, has anybody else seen or heard anything? Just call me anxious and curious today, take care, grok in fullness ... Bill-- Hi Bill, I noticed the other day that the domain name 'grandfunk.com' had recently been registered to David Fishoff. I figured they were up to something. When I type in the grandfunk.com I get a "under construction" page. Wonder what they're going to have up there? I'm curious too. - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 13:19:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Oficial Web page??? Bill (Donna, Jeff, etc.), Not that I'm "in the loop", but I haven't heard boo about this. Donna, any news from your area? Stan At 12:39 5/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all, > > I've been in communication with Doug Pullen -- the music writ- > er for the Flint Journal. He had some interesting things to tell > me -- most of which has been rumored on this list before. But, > he did have one new thing to say ... > > Doug told me (earlier this week) that Fishof's folks told him > that there would be an official Grand Funk Web page up by this > Friday. Well, that *is* today, has anybody else seen or heard > anything? > > Just call me anxious and curious today, take care, grok in > fullness ... > >Bill-- > ...who really *believes* 42 is the answer... > (42?) (__==__) >+--------------------------+--------------------------+---- \ -- (oo) ---+ >|William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | /-------\/ | >|wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| / | || | >| *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | * ||----|| | >+------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+--- ^^ -- ^^ -----+ > > > Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:23:56 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Oficial Web page??? > > Doug told me (earlier this week) that Fishof's folks told him > that there would be an official Grand Funk Web page up by this > Friday. Well, that *is* today, has anybody else seen or heard > anything? I think Mike Butler said that he saw something officially registered that seemed to indicate that Fishof was creating a grand funk web site. I'm sure he'll reply and let us know the details. Phil ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 13:59:38 -0400 Subject: CD info and minor soapbox Gang, OK. I give up. This place is too quiet to suit me. New CD info. I was in Blockbuster Music last night in a Newport News mall. Obviously, I was checking the racks for the obvious CDs. Found the usual, one copy of WAAB and several of the compilation CDs. No excitement there. However, I did ask the clerk about GFRR releases and found the following info. The following CDs are all listed with "To Be Announced" release dates: Live Album, On Time, Phoenix, Survival, All The Girls In The World..., and Grand Funk. They had no specific info on dates, etc., but they did indicate that the TBA tag means that something should be happening soon. They show many of the other CDs as being available now, but that's no surprise. Now for the soapbox. . . The salesman indicated that the store had had an increased number of customers asking about GFRR recently. What this tells me is the GMA and Tonight show appearances are paying off. However, this is where my problem comes up. The marketing activities and the benefit shows have started the train rolling out of the station and down the track. Why isn't the complete catalog in the stores now????? My one Marketing course in college does not qualify me ask as Marketing wizard, but my 17 year former career as a banker did teach me a few things about finding and holding customers. Somebody has missed the boat. Everyone of those persons walking into music stores across this country (and outside this country) should have been able to buy what they wanted when they got there. Some of them will never come back. Some of us have been on insane and, frequently, not successful missions to buy CDs that could not be found. If the CDs had been there, several good things would have happened. The missions could have been avoided, sales might not have been missed, and the resurgence of the GFRR movement might have happened faster if motivated people had been satisfied during those somewhat infrequent and short-duration periods of motivation. My suspicion and forecast has always been that the CDs will not be available until the US tour is cranked up (July). I understand that. I just wish a different approach had been taken. But, we have no clue about the hassles that might be delaying these CDs. Patience is a virtue, so they say. I'm done venting. Missing Mick in Virginia, Stan P.S. The salesman now has my name and telephone number. If any other Funkheads drift in looking for info, they'll be told to call me. Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:06:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Oficial Web page??? By the way, on the new site, Railroad is spelled wrong. Phil, are you back in the game? Stan At 11:23 5/9/97 -0600, you wrote: >> >> Doug told me (earlier this week) that Fishof's folks told him >> that there would be an official Grand Funk Web page up by this >> Friday. Well, that *is* today, has anybody else seen or heard >> anything? > >I think Mike Butler said that he saw something officially registered that >seemed to indicate that Fishof was creating a grand funk web site. I'm sure >he'll reply and let us know the details. > >Phil > > > Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #57 *******************************