From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #49 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Saturday, 3 May 1997 Volume 01 : Number 049 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: einar@rfci.net Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 21:30:22 -0400 Subject: Re: UNPLUGGED FUNK Funkola here, Here are my choices for GFR unplugged. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Ahem, GFR should NEVER be unplugged! ------------------------------ From: Bill Cook Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:43:47 -0700 Subject: Tonight Show] Message-ID: <336AEC2C.C24@tir.com> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:41:33 -0700 From: Bill Cook Reply-To: mustang@tir.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: grandfunk@roadkill.com Subject: Tonight Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You gotta love the sound mix...damn that was good...Funk with the soul of strings and horns...too short but what the heck...who dreamed two months ago that "the Peoples Band" would be on two national TV shows...with a third coming on VH1? Bill Cook ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 00:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: leno FUNK bravo! well done! gma/leno/2sro's/2wks/ whats next??? ------------------------------ From: STAATS Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:43:26 -0400 Subject: THE TONIGHT SHOW GRAND FUNK RAILROAD is the best ROCK BAND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But how do they have some guy on for 15 minutes talking about fuckin snakes? DAVID ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:58:18 -0400 Subject: Re: Tonight Show] Bill Cook wrote: > > Subject: Tonight Show > Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:41:33 -0700 > From: Bill Cook > To: grandfunk@roadkill.com > > You gotta love the sound mix...damn that was good...Funk with the soul > of strings and horns...too short but what the heck...who dreamed two > months ago that "the Peoples Band" would be on two national TV > shows...with a third coming on VH1? > > Bill Cook Bill: I agree...it was really great!! They are getting some great exposure. Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 01:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show I have to start by saying that GFR's performance was incredible! They sounded hot! I'll bet all of you funkheads in LA had a blast at the Greek, and I'm looking foward to hearing everyones reviews. Anyway, back to the tonight show. Their sound was mixed perfectly and I was finally able to hear Mel's bass sound without straining my ears. Mark's vocals and harmonies were in perfect pitch! The only thing I felt was that the horn players were a little overpowering in "We're An American Band". The one thing that really funkin' annoyed me was that Jay wasted more time on that stupid snake than anything else! Ok, if he had to at least have Jenny McCarthy on the show, fine. But I would've liked to have seen at least a good solid 20 minutes with GFR performing plus an interview. How could they have denied them of that??? Some 20 years later, back in action, doing benefit shows for a great cause, (which wasn't mentioned at all by the way) and they stick them in on the last 10 minutes of the show!!! No interview or anything! Just a quick, "thanks for being here". WOW! What ground breaking publicity! What a statement! What a slap in the face! As far as I'm concerned, their performance on that show was useless to the people who don't really know who they are. All I know is that WE (meaning the roadkill crew) and all the funkheads in the universe did appreciate their appearence and performance. ROCK ON BOYS!!! Screw the tonight show! Who needs them? Bring 'em on Rosie and Letterman! Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: einar@rfci.net Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 01:11:47 -0400 Subject: Re: THE TONIGHT SHOW STAATS wrote: > > GRAND FUNK RAILROAD is the best ROCK BAND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > But how do they have some guy on for 15 minutes talking about fuckin > snakes? > > DAVID I had a feeling they would play American Band. Tonight Show has a slightly hipper audience then GMA. :) Hey man, that snake looked like it weighed more than 250 lbs to me. ------------------------------ From: STAATS Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 01:13:24 -0400 Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > > I have to start by saying that GFR's performance was incredible! They sounded > hot! I'll bet all of you funkheads in LA had a blast at the Greek, and I'm > looking foward to hearing everyones reviews. Anyway, back to the tonight > show. Their sound was mixed perfectly and I was finally able to hear Mel's > bass sound without straining my ears. Mark's vocals and harmonies were in > perfect pitch! The only thing I felt was that the horn players were a little > overpowering in "We're An American Band". > > The one thing that really funkin' annoyed me was that Jay wasted more time on > that stupid snake than anything else! Ok, if he had to at least have Jenny > McCarthy on the show, fine. But I would've liked to have seen at least a good > solid 20 minutes with GFR performing plus an interview. How could they have > denied them of that??? Some 20 years later, back in action, doing benefit > shows for a great cause, (which wasn't mentioned at all by the way) and they > stick them in on the last 10 minutes of the show!!! No interview or anything! > Just a quick, "thanks for being here". WOW! What ground breaking publicity! > What a statement! What a slap in the face! As far as I'm concerned, their > performance on that show was useless to the people who don't really know who > they are. All I know is that WE (meaning the roadkill crew) and all the > funkheads in the universe did appreciate their appearence and performance. > ROCK ON BOYS!!! > Screw the tonight show! Who needs them? > Bring 'em on Rosie and Letterman! > > Paul > Bass6plyr@aol.com I agree 100% Paul ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 01:33:06 -0400 Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > > I have to start by saying that GFR's performance was incredible! They sounded > hot! I'll bet all of you funkheads in LA had a blast at the Greek, and I'm > looking foward to hearing everyones reviews. Anyway, back to the tonight > show. Their sound was mixed perfectly and I was finally able to hear Mel's > bass sound without straining my ears. Mark's vocals and harmonies were in > perfect pitch! The only thing I felt was that the horn players were a little > overpowering in "We're An American Band". > > The one thing that really funkin' annoyed me was that Jay wasted more time on > that stupid snake than anything else! Ok, if he had to at least have Jenny > McCarthy on the show, fine. But I would've liked to have seen at least a good > solid 20 minutes with GFR performing plus an interview. How could they have > denied them of that??? Some 20 years later, back in action, doing benefit > shows for a great cause, (which wasn't mentioned at all by the way) and they > stick them in on the last 10 minutes of the show!!! No interview or anything! > Just a quick, "thanks for being here". WOW! What ground breaking publicity! > What a statement! What a slap in the face! As far as I'm concerned, their > performance on that show was useless to the people who don't really know who > they are. All I know is that WE (meaning the roadkill crew) and all the > funkheads in the universe did appreciate their appearence and performance. > ROCK ON BOYS!!! > Screw the tonight show! Who needs them? > Bring 'em on Rosie and Letterman! > > Paul > Bass6plyr@aol.com Paul: Not only could you hear Mel's bass..he really looked like he was getting into it. I agree that Jay should have asked the guys some questions, but I don't agree that their performance was useless to people who don't really know who they are...at the start of the show "Grand Funk Railroad" filled my entire TV screen when Leno announced the guests..he mentioned them again in the middle of the show, and the band did play a couple of songs..and all this happened on a show with a big viewing audience. I'd say that's pretty good exposure. Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: QuoteNotes@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GFR on VH1 Who said GFR was gonna be on VH1? When? Where? How? What? Huh? ------------------------------ From: MS21@ix.netcom.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 00:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: GFR On Leno GFR sounded great on Leno. They didn't have much time to play, but I thought the combination of I'm Your Captain and WAAB was a good compromise selection for the type of audience. Having the mini orchestra was a suprising plus. Too bad no interview, but I didn't expect much for these type of shows. I almost thought they weren't going to have time to play. Rock on GFR. Hope too see more of ya on the tube. Mark Scarano ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 01:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show simmer down guys!!! they got far more than most bands do he mentioned them several times during as well as 2 songs PALLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! well done daid fishof!! & crew.... they are rolling now!!!!!!! g ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 02:13:24 -0700 Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show > Paul: > > Not only could you hear Mel's bass..he really looked like he was getting into it. > > I agree that Jay should have asked the guys some questions, but I don't agree that > their performance was useless to people who don't really know who they are...at the > start of the show "Grand Funk Railroad" filled my entire TV screen when Leno announced > the guests..he mentioned them again in the middle of the show, and the band did play > a couple of songs..and all this happened on a show with a big viewing audience. I'd say > that's pretty good exposure. > Jim Giranda Jim, I agree totally. Very nice exposure on the tonight show. Mark looked much more rested and healthy than on GMA. Fishof is doing a pretty good job. By the way, great to meet you at the Westside. I was the one with the "Wake Up"(the orange) t-shirt on. Later. Regards, Jim ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 03:55:43 -0400 Subject: GFR on Tonight show I thought they ROCKED! I wished that Jay would have done an interview instead of fooling around with that stupid snake. But hey at least we got to see and hear our favorite band. Rock on GFR! I think any kind of publicity for the guys is Great. Keep sending your email to Letterman & Rosie. Hey and lets start sending email to MTV and VH1. Lets tell them we want to see The one and only AMERICAN BAND. Lets get behind GFR and show our support. Are You Ready start sending your email. Let them know that THE PEOPLE want to hear THE PEOPLE'S BAND! Keep Shinin On...Sam ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 08:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show When I said "As far as I'm concerned, their performance on that show was useless to the people who don't really know who they are", what I meant was as far as attracting a new crowd (particularly a younger audience) I just feel that an interview with them for the new "up and coming GFR fans" explaining why they are back, and giving everyone a little history about the band would've gotten their point across a little better, and it would've added much more publicity. Yes it was great to us because we are all die hard fans, but picture yourself not knowing these guys. Not knowing much about their music, or their cause, you would feel like you didn't get enough coverage and information about them to even care about who they were. If you're gonna do it, do it right! Not half assed! As far as Leno announcing the name "Grand Funk Railroad" several times throughout the show, BIG DEAL!!! He could've said it a thousand times. The name isn't all what's going to market the band. It's music, INFORMATION, and knowledge about who these boys are! For example, if you see a TV commercial for a NEW brand of soap or one that you may not have heard of before, and all they did was repeatedly say the name of this soap without giving you any other information, it just wouldn't be enough for you to go out and buy it. You want information.... you want to know why this soap is so good that it would make you want to buy it! Bottom line, my opinion about the show is: GREAT performance, sound, and stage presence! (great for us funkheads!) Then you have: BAD time slot, NO interview, NO mention as to why they are back, and finally, NO mention about the Bosnia relief benefit! What a shaft up the kazoo!!!! This all sums up in my book to be BAD marketing. (not good for the younger generation) Does anyone else agree besides "dstaats1"? Dwell on my point for a while. Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: WScarano.SGA_BUSINESS_SYSTEMS@iSGA.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 09:04:18 -0400 Subject: Re: Tonight Show] When is the vh1? mustang@tir.com on 05/03/97 03:43:47 AM Please respond to mustang@tir.com To: grand-funk@roadkill.com cc: (bcc: Wayne P. Scarano/SGA Business Systems) Subject: Tonight Show] Message-ID: <336AEC2C.C24@tir.com> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 00:41:33 -0700 From: Bill Cook Reply-To: mustang@tir.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: grandfunk@roadkill.com Subject: Tonight Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You gotta love the sound mix...damn that was good...Funk with the soul of strings and horns...too short but what the heck...who dreamed two months ago that "the Peoples Band" would be on two national TV shows...with a third coming on VH1? Bill Cook ------------------------------ From: brad412@BLomand.Net Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 08:07:57 -0500 Subject: Kidding? At 10:33 AM 5/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry, but Rosie needs to be KILLED!!! >Jay >AKA-Jaypfunk@aol.com Jay, You're kidding right? Are you referring to her sexuality, and that she should be killed for that? Brad > ------------------------------ From: brad412@BLomand.Net Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 08:15:33 -0500 Subject: Theaters for the Summer? On Friday someone told me that GFR was booking theaters this summer because they have an "indoor" thing that they are doing. The band is allegedly not booking any more outdoor shows for the summer. Are all of the shows booked after the Del Mar Fair indoors in theaters? Do you GFR fans think that this is strange? 90% or more of the rock and roll shows in the summer are outdoors in most cities during the summer. If GFR is going inside, I would speculate that they are going for smaller, sold-out crowds. P.S. What did you think of The Tonight Show? Is that how they performed in recent concerts? Would you compare The Tonight Show to "Caught in the Act" performance style? Brad ------------------------------ From: JOHN PETITT Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 09:57:16 -0500 Subject: Kidding? -Reply Brad, I couldn't care less if she is a carpet muncher or not. I just think she is one of the most untalented people around (along with that stupid Ellen). SHE IS JUST NOT FUNNY! She is more irritating than anything else. And that horrible accent! I am just tired of see her FAT face everywhere I look too, whether it be in newspapers, on TV or anywhere. Always remember, just because something is popular does not mean that it is good. Remember NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK?? That is what is wrong with America these days, people are brainwashed into thinking that way. Look at so called "hip" rock radio. How many times do they have to play the same songs over and over. MTV is crap too. And people fall for it because they don't think for thenselves. Theory- If MTV put a picture of a head of lettuce on the screen for 5 min. an hour the sale of lettuce would go through the roof. WAKE UP PEOPLE AND GO OUT AND BUY GFR ALBUMS INSTEAD OF GREEN DAY AND STP!!!!! This is just my feeling about things. I would rather much see GFR on a better caliper of show, not a day-time trash crap talk show like hers. Preferably a music oriented program. GFR RULES!!!!! Hope I didn't offend anyone out there. Jay AKA-Jaypfunk@aol.com ROADKILL RULES!! P.S.-My review of the Beacon show is still comin'-hold on. ------------------------------ From: RStaln01@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 10:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show I too thought that the band did great on the Tonight Show. Yeah they didn't get an interview but we got what matters most, the music! And lets face it, the interview they would have likely gotten would not have spoken to the things we the fans want to know about anyway.I used to watch Letterman alot and the boys got a bigger slot of time than what Letterman usually gives his musical guests. The Tonight Show, combined with what I think was a generous amount of time on GMA, has given this band some great exposure. It's great to see the band getting this type of action. Well done David Fishoff! Ralph Stalnecker RStaln01@aol.com ------------------------------ From: kblackle@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 08:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Kidding? -Reply Hi Guys!> (snip) WAKE UP PEOPLE AND GO OUT AND BUY GFR > ALBUMS INSTEAD OF GREEN DAY AND STP!!!!! Hmmmm. . . I don't know who STP is but I like Green Day . . . mind you, I don't have any of heir albums/CDs but I do have about a million of Grand Funks. . . what's the matter with liking new bands as well? This is just my feelingabout things. I would rather much see GFR on a better caliper of show, > not a day-time trash crap talk show like hers. I've never watched this lady's show, but I'm sure I can imagine what it's like. But if it's popular, and a lot of folks watch it, then perhaps that's what they should be on. The more people that see the band, the more likely their reunion will be along-term succesful one. Preferably a music oriented > program. Yeah, I'd like that for me, too. But maybe a show like like this Rosie's one will help promote teh band better? GFR RULES!!!!! Hope I didn't offend anyone out there. Takes a lot more than this to offend me . . . Ken > ------------------------------ From: James Lichtenberg Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 10:50:17 -0700 Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: "As far as I'm concerned, their performance on that show was useless to the people who don't really know who they are". Dear Paul, Yes. An interview would have been icing. I have been semi frustrated over the years at hearing a GFRR tune on the radio and NOT having the DJ identify the artist. I think this has improved in recent years, but I still think Leno mentioning their name repeatedly was beneficial. I showed the GMA tape to my sister, who knows nothing about the boys and she was pretty excited about the performing. New or young people have been listening to "Closer To Home", "WAAB","Locomotion" and "SKOW" for two decades now on the radio. I think that it is a pleasant "shock" for these listeners to finally see the faces behind the music and therein lies the benefit to the people who don't really know who they are. Nice job, David Fishof! Thanks, Paul. Later. Regards Jim ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:18:23 +0200 Subject: Greek Theatre Somekind of Wonderful I heard that in the Greek Theatre concert Mark was singing: 'Donna, She's somekind of Wonderful, yes she is she's 'She's somekind of Wonderful'.......... Nico. ------------------------------ From: JOHN PETITT Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 12:43:28 -0500 Subject: test this is a test-ignore please!! ------------------------------ From: MS21@ix.netcom.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:51:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Greg - Mail Box Full, Sending thru Roadkill - ------Begin forward message------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 12:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mailer-daemon@aol.com Subject: Returned Mail: Undeliverable To: MS21@ix.netcom.com The mail you sent could not be delivered to: 552 whirlegreg@aol.com has a full mailbox The text you sent follows: >From MS21@ix.netcom.com Sat May 3 10:47:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by emin17.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-1.0.1) with ESMTP id KAA02408 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:47:22 -0400 (EDT) From: MS21@ix.netcom.com Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA02246; Sat, 3 May 1997 09:47:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 09:47:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from prn-nj1-05.ix.netcom.com(199.183.207.37) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma002232; Sat May 3 09:47:13 1997 To: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Cc: wscarano@iSGA.com Message-Id: <19975393943741@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: GFR On Leno X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.20, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 05/03/97 01:54:40 you wrote: > >hey there (baby) man! you guys must have gotten home a bit late? > >im jonesin for the funk!! > >g > > Greg, If your're talking about the Night Of The Beacon, yeah we got home about 3:30 AM. But I had the boys keeping me awake on my CD player all the way home. If you know when they're coming back to the NY area, let us know. Just listened to the Red Album. Haven't dusted off the old LP for years. Sounded great. Hope they keep with the more bluesy sound. Mark - ------End forward message--------------------------- ------------------------------ From: JOHN PETITT Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 12:58:10 -0500 Subject: test again could 1 person please respond to this so i can check something> thanks jay ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 14:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show On Sat, 3 May 1997 WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > simmer down guys!!! they got far more than most bands do he mentioned them > several times during as well as 2 songs PALLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! Whoop-de-freakin-do. What do you mean, "simmer down"? I suppose we should simmer down about the classic radion stations playing only WAAB and IYC all the time too, eh? Hell, at least they play two songs, right? What more could we want, right? We should just be thankful for what we got and shut the hell up, right? Jeesh. Look, nothing personal here - please don't take it that way. But think about it: Leno himself said that GFR sold 20 million records, and were one of the most popular rock bands in history, and were regrouped for a world tour. Then he squeezes them (and I do mean SQUEEZES them) into the last 5 (not 10, as someone else has written) minutes of the show, after spending 30 minutes (yess - HALF of the show) on his monologue and his post-monologue silliness, then 10 minutes on this year's dumbest bimbo, the gratingly stupid Jenny McCarthy, then TWO segments on some dork with a frog, a lizard, and a snake. They barely had time to perform at all - Leno was shaking their hands and cueing to a commercial before the freaking reverberations of the last chord were dissipated. Call it what you want, but in my strong opinion, this is a MAJOR slap in the face to one of rock music's legends. But this is not new - Leno does this to just about every band that comes on his silly show. > well done daid fishof!! & crew.... Indeed - everyone here appreciates all that was done to get GFR on the show - that is not our complaint. We are simply peeved at the shabby treatment the band got. GFR are legends, and they were not treated any differently than if a no-name band was performing. Sorry if some of you think that we are ingrates - we are not - but we just expected more. Jeff ------------------------------ From: IMTurtle2@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 14:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Letterman Hey All - I spoke with Paul Shaffer in Detroit and again backstage at the Beacon regarding GFRR on Letterman. He told me that he has very little input as to which music guests appear. In NY he told me that Letterman is very much opposed to ANYTHING that "smacks nostalgic". The bands publicist was standing there at the time and said that they had approached Letterman already and that the booking agent, Sheila Rogers (former editor for Rolling Stone's Random Notes) turned them down, at least for now. If the band picks up steam and becomes hot again they would consider having them on. By the way, Paul Shaffer just loves these guys and had a blast working with them. Loved the Leno performance. I'm with Whirle. Chill out. The exposure these guys are getting is great. Remember, they have been out of the mainstream for 20 years. It is going to take a little time to get the machine rolling again. And we have a MUCH more fickle and arrogant press than was in place back in late '60's early '70's. Later, Jim ------------------------------ From: WScarano.SGA_BUSINESS_SYSTEMS@iSGA.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 16:07:08 -0400 Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show tv is about ratings...yep..most of the US would rather watch a guy holding a snake. Not a slap in the face..just reality...which makes you wonder how they got on in the first place!? jgower@mtholyoke.edu on 05/03/97 02:23:26 PM Please respond to jgower@mtholyoke.edu To: grand-funk@roadkill.com cc: (bcc: Wayne P. Scarano/SGA Business Systems) Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show On Sat, 3 May 1997 WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > simmer down guys!!! they got far more than most bands do he mentioned them > several times during as well as 2 songs PALLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! Whoop-de-freakin-do. What do you mean, "simmer down"? I suppose we should simmer down about the classic radion stations playing only WAAB and IYC all the time too, eh? Hell, at least they play two songs, right? What more could we want, right? We should just be thankful for what we got and shut the hell up, right? Jeesh. Look, nothing personal here - please don't take it that way. But think about it: Leno himself said that GFR sold 20 million records, and were one of the most popular rock bands in history, and were regrouped for a world tour. Then he squeezes them (and I do mean SQUEEZES them) into the last 5 (not 10, as someone else has written) minutes of the show, after spending 30 minutes (yess - HALF of the show) on his monologue and his post-monologue silliness, then 10 minutes on this year's dumbest bimbo, the gratingly stupid Jenny McCarthy, then TWO segments on some dork with a frog, a lizard, and a snake. They barely had time to perform at all - Leno was shaking their hands and cueing to a commercial before the freaking reverberations of the last chord were dissipated. Call it what you want, but in my strong opinion, this is a MAJOR slap in the face to one of rock music's legends. But this is not new - Leno does this to just about every band that comes on his silly show. > well done daid fishof!! & crew.... Indeed - everyone here appreciates all that was done to get GFR on the show - that is not our complaint. We are simply peeved at the shabby treatment the band got. GFR are legends, and they were not treated any differently than if a no-name band was performing. Sorry if some of you think that we are ingrates - we are not - but we just expected more. Jeff ------------------------------ From: WScarano.SGA_BUSINESS_SYSTEMS@iSGA.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 16:07:24 -0400 Subject: Re: test again responding jpetitt@compucom.com on 05/03/97 01:58:10 PM Please respond to jpetitt@compucom.com To: grand-funk@roadkill.com cc: (bcc: Wayne P. Scarano/SGA Business Systems) Subject: test again could 1 person please respond to this so i can check something> thanks jay ------------------------------ From: jgiranda@monmouth.com Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 16:24:19 -0400 Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show G. Jeffrey Gower wrote: > > On Sat, 3 May 1997 WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > simmer down guys!!! they got far more than most bands do he mentioned them > > several times during as well as 2 songs PALLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! > > Whoop-de-freakin-do. What do you mean, "simmer down"? I suppose we > should simmer down about the classic radion stations playing only WAAB > and IYC all the time too, eh? Hell, at least they play two songs, > right? What more could we want, right? We should just be thankful for > what we got and shut the hell up, right? Jeesh. > > Look, nothing personal here - please don't take it that way. But think > about it: Leno himself said that GFR sold 20 million records, and were > one of the most popular rock bands in history, and were regrouped for a > world tour. Then he squeezes them (and I do mean SQUEEZES them) into the > last 5 (not 10, as someone else has written) minutes of the show, after > spending 30 minutes (yess - HALF of the show) on his monologue and his > post-monologue silliness, then 10 minutes on this year's dumbest bimbo, > the gratingly stupid Jenny McCarthy, then TWO segments on some dork with > a frog, a lizard, and a snake. They barely had time to perform at > all - Leno was shaking their hands and cueing to a commercial before > the freaking reverberations of the last chord were dissipated. Call it what > you want, but in my strong opinion, this is a MAJOR slap in the face to > one of rock music's legends. But this is not new - Leno does this to > just about every band that comes on his silly show. > > > well done daid fishof!! & crew.... > > Indeed - everyone here appreciates all that was done to get GFR on the > show - that is not our complaint. We are simply peeved at the shabby > treatment the band got. GFR are legends, and they were not treated any > differently than if a no-name band was performing. Sorry if some of you > think that we are ingrates - we are not - but we just expected more. > > Jeff Hi Jeff: I don't think that you and the other complainers are ingrates..I just do not agree with you guys, and here's why: (1) It's Leno's show..not the Grand Funk with Leno show. If Leno didn't like GFR, they would not be there. He always spends lots of time on the monologue. When's the last time you saw a rock band that has been out of the lime-light for over 20 years appearing on the Tonight Show? (2) The Tonight Show is viewed by about 4-5 million people each night, maybe more on a Friday night, so, for the time GFR performed, even if it was for only 5 minutes, don't you think that represents good exposure? (3) We all are very passionate about Grand Funk...all us fans want more..perhaps the rumoured upcoming VH1 special showcasing the Funk's Detroit show will satisfy our cravings. I dropped the Tonight Show an E-mail thanking them for having the best rock band in the world appear on the show. Maybe you guys should do the same. Jim Giranda ------------------------------ From: STAATS Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 16:39:56 -0400 Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show G. Jeffrey Gower wrote: > > On Sat, 3 May 1997 WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > simmer down guys!!! they got far more than most bands do he mentioned them > > several times during as well as 2 songs PALLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ! > > Whoop-de-freakin-do. What do you mean, "simmer down"? I suppose we > should simmer down about the classic radion stations playing only WAAB > and IYC all the time too, eh? Hell, at least they play two songs, > right? What more could we want, right? We should just be thankful for > what we got and shut the hell up, right? Jeesh. > > Look, nothing personal here - please don't take it that way. But think > about it: Leno himself said that GFR sold 20 million records, and were > one of the most popular rock bands in history, and were regrouped for a > world tour. Then he squeezes them (and I do mean SQUEEZES them) into the > last 5 (not 10, as someone else has written) minutes of the show, after > spending 30 minutes (yess - HALF of the show) on his monologue and his > post-monologue silliness, then 10 minutes on this year's dumbest bimbo, > the gratingly stupid Jenny McCarthy, then TWO segments on some dork with > a frog, a lizard, and a snake. They barely had time to perform at > all - Leno was shaking their hands and cueing to a commercial before > the freaking reverberations of the last chord were dissipated. Call it what > you want, but in my strong opinion, this is a MAJOR slap in the face to > one of rock music's legends. But this is not new - Leno does this to > just about every band that comes on his silly show. > > > well done daid fishof!! & crew.... > > Indeed - everyone here appreciates all that was done to get GFR on the > show - that is not our complaint. We are simply peeved at the shabby > treatment the band got. GFR are legends, and they were not treated any > differently than if a no-name band was performing. Sorry if some of you > think that we are ingrates - we are not - but we just expected more. > > Jeff I agree 100% Jeff. DAVID ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 17:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: My thoughts about GFR on the Tonight Show On Sat, 3 May 1997 jgiranda@monmouth.com wrote: > Hi Jeff: Hi Jim. > (1) It's Leno's show..not the Grand Funk with Leno show. If Leno didn't > like GFR, they would not be there. True. You (and others) are right - I suppose Leno is to be thanked for allowing one of the legends of rock and roll to be a part of his show. OK. > He always spends lots of time on the monologue. The monologue is fine, even funny sometimes. Carson did a monologue also. No problem. It's the ridiculous "see, I'm hip and wild-n-crazy like Letterman" silliness that takes up another 15 minutes of the show. That leaves a half-hour show (20 minutes, after commercials are taken into account) for three guests. The musicians get whatever time is left, usually. If that kind of quicky sound-bite "Entertainment Tonight"-type television is OK with most folks, fine. I hate it. > When's the last time you saw a rock band that has been out of > the lime-light for over 20 years appearing on the Tonight Show? Well, as you might guess, I don't watch Leno that often, but I have seen within the last 5 years or so bands like ELP, CSN, Townsend, etc.. CSN and Townsend got interview time, by the way. But I think that was before Leno started his ultra-hip-jivin' 15-minute post-monologue sh$%. > (2) The Tonight Show is viewed by about 4-5 million people each night, > maybe more on a Friday night, so, for the time GFR performed, even if it > was for only 5 minutes, don't you think that represents good exposure? No, not necessarily. I think Paul (Bass6plyr) put it extrememly well in his post. I really don't think a quick soundbite is valuable exposure at all. Especially when they play the same two songs that we all (and I mean hardcore fans and casual fans and barely acquaintances) have heard a billion times on our respective "classic rock" radio stations. "OK, so that is GFR there playing those songs...they're still around, eh?... don't they have any other songs than those?....etc." I don't mean to sound negative, but I have seen many reunited acts go this same route, usually with very short albeit briefly lucrative rides. I think there is a tendency to ride on the "greatest hits" periods, and understandably so I suppose. But most of any band's greatest hits were products of a very fickle hits-buying public, and not of the much more longterm fans, who are more likely to be enthusiastic about a reunion. I am no marketing expert, but I would think that the band should use these brief soundbite promotions to show the world that raw, powerful energetic stuff that filled those stadiums in record time years ago, rather than the play-it-safe pop hits. But if they are in it just for a quick buck, then they are doing the right thing I suppose. Just my opinion. > I dropped the Tonight Show an E-mail thanking them for having the best > rock band in the world appear on the show. Maybe you guys should do the > same. Maybe you should go into politics, Jim. I'll thank Leno when he shows proper respect for entertainers whose influence and significance far exceeds his own, but not for "allowing" them to provide squeezed-in-at-the-last-minute entertainment for his increasingly stupid show. Jeff ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 23:22:18 +0200 Subject: GFR on The Tonight Show, NBC Europe Wow! Nico ------------------------------ From: RV56@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 17:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: t-shirt hi; i was at the gfr concert at the greek and saw the t-shirts. r u a fan club, can i get one of the shirts, if so how and how much. thanks, ruben (rv56@ aol.com) p.s. killer concert huh!! ------------------------------ From: fam11@juno.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:02:40 -0400 Subject: Live Album CD Sam Did you make it to Lexington? When I went to BEST BUYS at noon today there was only 2 LIVE ALBUM CD's left. I'm hoping you got yours. I bought the last 2 for fellow fans. If you didn't get one let me know. I know of another place to get one. Tony ------------------------------ From: WScarano.SGA_BUSINESS_SYSTEMS@iSGA.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:23:15 -0400 Subject: Re: test again responded again WScarano.SGA_BUSINESS_SYSTEMS@iSGA.com on 05/03/97 04:07:24 PM Please respond to WScarano.SGA_BUSINESS_SYSTEMS@iSGA.com To: jpetitt@compucom.com cc: grand-funk@roadkill.com (bcc: Wayne P. Scarano/SGA Business Systems) Subject: Re: test again responding jpetitt@compucom.com on 05/03/97 01:58:10 PM Please respond to jpetitt@compucom.com To: grand-funk@roadkill.com cc: (bcc: Wayne P. Scarano/SGA Business Systems) Subject: test again could 1 person please respond to this so i can check something> thanks jay ------------------------------ From: Brad Durham Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 17:40:26 -0500 Subject: Auburn Hills FYI, Pollstar is reporting the Grand Funk show at the Palace of Auburn Hills' show (4/20) was a 100% sell-out with 15,086 tickets sold. The concert grossed $203,290. Brad ------------------------------ From: Brad Durham Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 17:45:00 -0500 Subject: Beacon Show FYI - Pollstar is reporting that the Beacon Show (4/25) was a 100% sellout. The concert grossed $114,105. Tickets for the Beacon show were $35-$45. In Detroit, tickets were $12.50-$22.50. Brad ------------------------------ From: Sam LeMaster Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:45:35 -0400 Subject: Thanks To: fam11@juno.com Thanks for the info. I drove down there today and bought the Live Album on cd. As I am writing this Heartbreaker is playing in the background. Thanks again... Man it sounds so GOOD! Funk fan since 1970 Sam ------------------------------ From: steve lisuk Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 16:04:45 -0700 Subject: [none] LA show was tremendous. Set list the same as other shows. Guest stars were Slash from Guns and Roses and Billy Preston. Slash played on Time Machine and on Locomotion with Billy Preston. Billy Preston was on keyboards on various songs throughout the night. Reviews from netters that saw other shows on the tour rated this one tops. The netters got backstage passes, courtesy Donna. Great party after the show with open bar, hordeuves, and time socializing with the band. Watch Donna's site for pictures of the party and concert. One netter was almost ejected for taking pictures, but common sense intervened. The security guard had a soft heart and let her go with camera intact after his boss was out of sight. Funk tour dates will be on Donna's site Monday or Tuesday. David Fishoff was very courteous and a very nice guy, as well as Sunny Quinn. These are great people. David Fishoff is to be comended for bringing our Brothers back together again after 20 years. Thank you David. It is obvious that you are a fan of the group as well as manager. Only a true fan could put together such a moving experience as this. Watch for selected cuts from The Detroit Show to appear on the new album, along with new studio tracks. The band was fantastic on Jay Leno. They put in a full day Friday with sound checks at both NBC Studios and the Greek Theatre. The Leno show was then taped at 5 - 6 PM; they then rushed back to the Greek in time for the 7:30 start. They never missed a lick. Watch Donna's site for information about an appearance on Letterman next Wednesday or Thursday. All in all, it was a night that exceeded all expectations in both sound and staging. Steve PS. Thanks to all the Netters that turned out. These are all great people. Let's turn out in force at all of these gigs. ------------------------------ From: steve lisuk Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 16:23:48 -0700 Subject: [none] Straight from the mouth of Mark Farner, Friday night, "All albums are in the process of being released on CD by Capitol." ------------------------------ From: Mrmnas3@aol.com Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 19:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Thanks I watched GFR last night and didnt learn anything I already didnt know. They are still the greatest 3 man band of all time. ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #49 *******************************