From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #42 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Wednesday, 23 April 1997 Volume 01 : Number 042 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phil Catalano Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 16:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Meeting of the Funk Well, thanks to the roadkill list I had the pleasure of meeting a fellow roadkill Funker that's right here in Colorado Springs! Me and Dale Chavez got together last night and drank a couple of pitchers and talked the Funk! I would say we talked Funk about 75% of the time, talked drums and music maybe another 15-20% and other stuff 5-10%. Dale is a great guy and he's a fan from way back in '69, way before me. And the real bonus is that he's a musician! He plays drums and guitar! So we should be hooking up real soon and jamming. Dale's wife, Marsha showed up a couple of hours later and she's a fan also. Not quite the fans that we are but nevertheless, a fan. She's real nice too. Grand Funk fans are the Greatest!! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 16:57:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: How was Brewer? Thanks Mike! That makes me feel better! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Mike Butler wrote: > Phil Catalano wrote: > > How was Brewer? Was he wild as ever or did he tame down a bit. Was > he always > screaming like he used to do.? I Hope So! How was his voice? It > seems like it's > not as deep as it used to be. Did he play the usual TNUC solo and > was it a long > one? Sorry for all the questions but I'm a major Don Brewer fan! And > it seems > like Farner's been getting all the attention. And how about Mel's > bass? Anything > like LIVE? > > Thanks, > Phil > > Yea Donnie was a little tamer, less screaming and stuff, man can he play > the drums. The TNUC solo was shortened a bit. I do remember him twice > throwing his drum stick about 50 feet in air and catching them during > TNUC. > > His voice was really strong. I have several Mark Farner concerts (on > tape) with other people singing Don's part - but they never sounded as > good as the real Donnie Brewer. > > He came from behind his drums and pounded his drum sticks together while > singing the beginning of 'Some Kind of Wonderful' for the first chorus, > before going back behind his drums. > > I noticed he had headphones on for most of the second part. He started > each song with the drum stick countdown, he even stopped the countdown > just as they started into Loneliness, the Orchestra had just started. > Mark piped in "we just wanted to make sure you were still with us" or > something like that and he started again. Everybody was chuckling. > > Bill and I talked after the show about the bass being a little distorted > in spots. Either that or our ears were distorted, I'm not sure which. He > plays such a powerful bass. It just rumbled your. . . well you *guys* > know what I mean. > > STAATS is a bass player, he might be able to add to that and Bill must > know every lick of TNUC he was talking about technical drum stuff with > some guy that I didn't have a clue about. > > One last thing and I'll stop babbling - back to the crowd singing along. > During 'Inside Looking Out' David Staats commented on how everybody knew > the words - except Mark ;-) > - I still haven't figured out what he substituted for some of the old > lyrics. > > -=Mike=- > > ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 21:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Set list well i tried to do this earlier but i must have been still aglow so here goes!!!!!! it cant be too longggggggggggggg! Subj: Re: gfrr Date: 97-04-22 21:28:04 EDT From: einar@rfci.net Reply-to: einar@rfci.net To: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com CC: wherligr@ix.netcom.com WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > well hi jeff! > > missed you sunday!! > > here is some info to keep you going til i can post the rest!! i tried to > send it to the site but got errors > > WHIRLEGREG > > and nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww > > Re: Auburn Hills Report > From: greg wereley > Date: 21 Apr 1997 > Time: 17:39:19 > Remote Name: 152.163.231.154 > Comments > well here is part of my post and more to come!!! well gang i had the pleasure > of meeting several > members from this list it was great!! we had some fun at the record > convention got the wonderful > shirts brought all the way from vegas by mb and they were a big hit!!!!!!!! > we found cd's of last > summers milwaukee show as well as bumping into bc but anyway "the group > you've been waiting > to see GRAND FUNK RAILROAD!!!!" followed old footage of the american band and > the > symphony played the 2001 theme as m,d&m hit the stage with a special > energy(and lasers > galore) not seen last summer!! explosions greated them as they really cranked > it out with > ruready? then r n r soul footstompin all were "a ragin!" frampton enters to > ad some blistering licks > to time machine, then a switch they tied paranoid w sins/mr limo dr together > and im not sure > about that being i would rather hear all of each!! but not bad! then > heartbreaker with mark > adding at the end "we're gettin it!" next came aimless lady and alto reed's > first appearance as that > ends mark adds i wanna see don brewer work how about you?" and guess what > t.n.u.c. as don > tosses sticks high into the air and catching everyone! after his bows for his > usual stellar solo mark > fires off a blistering solo to introduce inside lookin out! AWESOME > PERFORMANCE of this > old fav!!!!! also reed returns to blast out shinin on! next came everyones > favorite (i know iknow) > locomotion w peter and alto so it really was pretty cool! they end the first > set with moore lasers > and explosions during WAAB! I'LL be back w 2nd set in a short! take it easy! > g > > Last changed: April 21, 1997 Damn! Sounnds great Greg. My heart beat is increasing just thinking about it! Can't wait to hear the rest! Jeff ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 21:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Set list ok here's a bit more !! Subj: Re: Hat and t-shirts Date: 97-04-22 12:17:53 EDT From: WHIRLEGREG To: jpetitt@compucom.com, wap@one.net To: grand-funk@roadkill.com wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll i'd be happy to! first and foremost IMHO the finest shirt going is the one brought to us all the way from vegas by our fellow funkhead mike butler!!! it is affordable and readily identifiable!!!!! but the ones offered at the concession stands are 3 and 1 hat!! the hats are black with red GRAND FUNK on the front and ohhhhhhhhh i think american band on the back!! the shirts are 1 of epluribus front another with closer to home front and the third with an old pic of a young trio on the front with GRAND FUNK RAILROAD in the flag colors and the rear showing the promo pic from last summer and sold out over detroit, nyc and la!! all are $25.00 so plan on dropping some cash or plastic!! and if you like the roadkill version and personally i do very much (i had many people comment and want one for themselves) so if you want one too then leave word around these parts and you will be accomodated!! later greg ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 21:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Set list sorry if i sent these and everyone got them but me?? since my mail was full after a very busy weekend but sooooooooooooooooo much fun!! Subj: Re: Grand Funk Railroad Date: 97-04-22 09:44:53 EDT From: WHIRLEGREG To: mhurrikanebh@juno.com here is more! Subj: Re: Auburn Hills and such ... Date: 97-04-21 22:08:11 EDT From: WHIRLEGREG To: wap@one.net well here is some more? i replied earlier to roadkill but dont know if it hit or not? anyway! sorry about the bummer's!!! Subj: Re: Funkengruven T's Date: 97-04-21 21:59:26 EDT From: WHIRLEGREG To: 1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net CC: IM Turtle2, Cannonkid, TCBobo, Mbelrose, SBrumfie CC: WHIRLEGREG well hi! i first want to say so sorry i couldnt get back to get you guys into the back stage area! i went there, first down two long hallways and then found a room with 150-200 people. not to mention really warm in there too. my friend mike also from vegas went back to tell his cousin the scoop and when i went, after he returned (since he had gone and returned i thought id wait a bit b4 going to fill you in) i found a big security guard standing watch who said if you go down that hall you dont come back! well since i had left my family i figured i would try to negotiate with him and he turned out to be less offensive than i first thought but didn t budge when i said i needed to let people know i would be awhile! so after a wait of another 20-30 minutes or so which i spent in the hall i saw some more security leading mel right at me telling me to moveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! i turned and moved back "that far" and stopped and as i looked on mel waved and then i saw don who also waved and then mark and his family he pointed and said "how ya doin?" i told him great dispite my dilema but in any case we stayed a short while and were able to chat and tell the guys we were very impressed etc and then we left having not seen jim again since the encore! i naturally figured he would be my ace in the hole to come and get you guys and as it turned out later he was kept very busy till after we had left but all in all i hope everyone had a great time!!! call me asap re: the shirts! NOW GET THIS MEL WAS WEARING A FARFUNNUGEN (OR WHAT EVER THE SPELLING IS) shirt and so i had him sign right above the sign on the back of my shirt!! then mark upper left and don upper right i'll try and scan it so you can see!! id say lets enlarge the back for future runs? ok ok sorry to go on like this but "i'm so excited" "i'm a harmless kinda crazy but its alright!" til the next time! greg phone #'s 313-886-7760w 313-884-1109h ciao greg ------------------------------ From: MS21@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:41:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Fwd: Re: GMA Tapes - ------Begin forward message------------------------- From: MS21 To: catalanomi@ul.com Date: 04/22/97 22:33:28 Message-Id: <19974222233283288@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: GMA Tapes X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.20, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. How can I obtain a GMA tape? Name your price. Does ABC sell copies? Driving in from Jersey for the NY show. Any recommendations for places for dinner/drinks before the show? Mark On 04/21/97 9:12:45 you wrote: > >I've got the first two of five tapes done. They're going to Funkola and >DaBronx. So, you other guys just hang on. I won't forget you. > >Mick > > - ------End forward message--------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 23:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: More nonsense about Mark's guitar - haha. On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Rand Kelly wrote: > That Messinger guitar and the WEST amps > combined with a couple of pedals: wah-wah,fuzz, and an Octavia(Into the > Sun,Paranoid) [cut] > Also another factor in Mark's sound with the Messenger > is it's a hollow body [cut] > can see masking or duct tape on the top and bottom of the bodyface. > I think he was taping off the F-holes so he could control the feedback. Yep, you are exactly right, Rand. The hollowbody Messenger was an essential part of his early sound. And yes, I am pretty sure that he did indeed cover the F-holes for feedback control. I remember being disapponted when I first saw him with a solidbody, because the sound was different - perhaps subtle but still very different, ya know? Back then, I was playing one of those horrible Gretsch hollowbodies with the F-holes and Bigsby tailpiece - damned thing wouldn't stay in tune, so I sold it for $150. Guess what the same guitars go for these days? You got it - $1000 to $1500 - I have seen several of them in shops for these prices! As Homer Simpson would say, "Doh!" Haha! I wonder if Mark still has those old guitars - he still uses those old amps, right? And what effects/racks/etc. is he using these days? bye, Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Dale Chavez" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 05:44:54 -0600 Subject: Re: Meeting of the Funk Phil echoed my sentiments exactly! As a long-time 'Funk fan, I've felt somewhat isolated because as Phil and I talked about the other night (and diehard fans know), either you love the Funk or not. In fact, it was pure luck (fate?) I was working from home the morning the were on GMA. I was not aware of this mailing list, so I was unaware of the support Grand Funk really has! Anway, good to finally hook up with friends that have a common love for great music! Regards, Dale ------------------------------ From: Bill Parrette Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Fwd: Re: Farner's Detroit performance? (fwd) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. - --WebTV-Mail-1031231741-939 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi all, I believe this was intended for the list. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:07:03 -0700 From: airshift@webtv.net To: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Farner's Detroit performance? - --WebTV-Mail-1031231741-939 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Message-Id: <199704230251.TAA04236@mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net> From: bluetuna@webtv.net (Rand Kelly) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:51:34 -0700 To: jgower@mtholyoke.edu (G. Jeffrey Gower), airshift@webtv.net Subject: Re: Farner's Detroit performance? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Hey there everybody. I agree with Jeff as far as Mark's tone from the early stuff; esp. LIVE ALBUM. That Messinger guitar and the WEST amps combined with a couple of pedals: wah-wah,fuzz, and an Octavia(Into the Sun,Paranoid) a device invented for Jimi by Roger Mayer to play 2 notes an octave apart. Now they've become pitch shifters and can do any interval. Also another factor in Mark's sound with the Messenger is it's a hollow body but if you take a good look at the LA poster( it's been 26 yrs. since I've seen the thing) anyway if you look closely at the body you can see masking or duct tape on the top and bottom of the bodyface. Now when I first saw this I just figured he was like PETE TOWNSHEND and was a little careless about where he tossed it and how it landed. Woops! crack in gtr time 4 tape. I was young and players were doing this, but now I think he was taping off the F-holes so he could control the feedback. This is a common problem and the remedy seems to be rubber covering soundholes. Only in the last 5 yrs. or so and MARK FARNER is doing it in 1969. Isn't It Amazing. Anyway I could go on forever about GFR and Mark's playing. There's one thing I'd like him to know and that is MARK YOU ARE THE BEST GUITAR TEACHER IN THE WORLD! GOD blessed me with a good ear and almost perfect pitch. I was in the Air Force and had been playing 4 yrs. With no sign of improvement in my leads. I was a pretty good rhythm player due to THE BEATLES(John Lennon) and I bought a stereo and only had enough for 1 record so I bought LIVE ALBUM and studied that masterpiece for months. Until I could (shadow) Mark on all the songs. I got into Black Sabbath-Master of Reality also but that's for another time and place. I just wanted Mark Farner to know how much of a help he has been to me for 27yrs. I got web tv at x-mas and was SHOCKED to hear about last yrs reunion concerts. They got no publicity at all. So this year I really hope GFR play SF,CA I'm only 300 mi. away and I would quit my stupid job to see them just once, a dream come true. I know I ramble but I keep reading the posts on this list and I'm more excited about Grand Funk than ever. I am Ready! Rand NP in cd player: The Edgar Winter Collection - --WebTV-Mail-1031231741-939-- ------------------------------ From: Bill Parrette Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:32:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Fwd: Re: Newspaper articles (fwd) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. - --WebTV-Mail-367770269-655 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi all, I believe this was intended for the list. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:08:54 -0700 From: airshift@webtv.net To: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Newspaper articles - --WebTV-Mail-367770269-655 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Message-Id: <199704230259.TAA05023@mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net> From: bluetuna@webtv.net (Rand Kelly) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:59:49 -0700 To: pacer@jtasc.acom.mil (Stan Pace), airshift@webtv.net Subject: Re: Newspaper articles Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Yes I read the one from the day after in the DETROIT FREE PRESS on the web. www.freep.com/fun/music/qfunk21.htm - --WebTV-Mail-367770269-655-- ------------------------------ From: Al Henneborn 595-6669 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: After NYC Gathering Yo GFR Gang, Since we're all meeting before the Beacon show at the West Side Brewery 76th & Amsterdam Ave., where are we going to get together after the show, after we meet Mark, Don & Mel? Go Back to the West Side Brewery or the Hard Rock Cafe, which I think is on 57th? Let's all get together after the show, I mean the event of this decade. Grandfunkengroovin' On, Row K Al ------------------------------ From: "Dale Chavez" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:25:44 -0600 Subject: New Subscriber Hi All, As Phil mentioned earlier, we met for beer the other night and talked 'Funk and music and had a great time. Mick just sent me email as well and suggested I talk about how I found the 'Funk. I'm a long-time musician (drummer/guitar) and my brother and I got hooked sometime in 1969. Like many of you, Grand Funk Live is what really got me hooked, and to this day remains my favorite album. Also, since I was gigging as a musician, our band tried to cover some 'Funk tunes, but never could do them justice, so we never played them in anything but a rehearsal situation. I'm here to tell you that the musicianship and songwriting talent of Grand Funk is better than than most realize. Don Brewer and Mark Farner harmonize as well as any duo has in the last 25 years, and in some cases, the harmonies are subtle (and sometimes not obvious), but critical to the song. I will say that the arrangements are sometimes too simple, but at the same time, they are perfect for the song. 'Nuff about the music analysis. What I really liked about the early albums (pre-All the Girls) was the raw, soulful playing of the music. You can (virtually) hear Mel screaming to keep up with Farner at times, and Farner trying to keep up with Brewer at times. Aimless Lady is a classic example of this when Farner comes out of the guitar solo, and the tempo obviously picks up a few beats per minute. The other thing that Phil and I talked about the other night is (in my opinion) that the word "Funk" in their name, means just that! They are a seriously funky band and if you could mix out Farner and just listen to Don and Mel, you would hear some obvious R&B influences. Gotta love it! Sorry for digressing again! Also like most of you, the "All the Girls" album was kind of the beginning of the end for me. Granted, I like a few songs on the album, but I think it's over-produced and too slick. It sounds like drums were muffled and/or tuned differently (maybe different shells were used), and the amplification changed as well. I was telling Phil that the album sounds like a hodge-podge of different ideas that never came together. You can almost hear the different directions they were being pulled. Anway, was telling Phil that I've never seen them live (and for that matter, never seen a live video either), so I'm extremely jazzed about the 'Vegas concert! Have to say in closing that Grand Funk Live is my favorite album (don't own the CD yet) because of it's raw and emotional sound. I think that album is as good as it gets! Also, just to let everyone know that I'm not stuck in the '60s; in fact, I love blues, jazz and fusion as well. Just saw Eric Johnson last Friday here in 'Springs and the guy is an alien! It's illegal for someone to play like that! 'Nuff for now. Keep 'Funkin! Regards, Dale Colorado Springs ------------------------------ From: Tom Roberts Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:29:01 -0400 Subject: Starting a new Grand Funk homepage I will be in the process of creating another Grand Funk homepage. I have started it already. The very first part of it can be found at: http://pages.prodigy.net/tigger2/GFRR/Pages/PK-SUR.htm This page in particular, although not quite finished yet, is of the press kit that was for "Survival". You can click on the thumbnail pictures to get enlarged copies, and click on "Text" to download the press kit text. Please e-mail me with any comments or suggestions. Thanks, Tom Roberts tigger2@prodigy.net ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Mel's last name? This is a silly question, but I've always wondered just how you pronounce Mel's last name (Schacher). Just curious. Jeff ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Mel's last name? Hi all, On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, G. Jeffrey Gower wrote: > ... but I've always wondered just how you pronounce > Mel's last name (Schacher). Just curious. I'd always thought it was pronounced "Shock-er" but someone else on-list has said the they have heard Mark pronounce it as "Shack-er" The more I look at it, the more the second one "feels" right. Take care, keep Shinin' On, and always grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who thinks it might be an excellent day to have a rotten day. (42) o o o o +--------------------------+--------------------------+ _____ ---- o ----+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | ]OO|_n_n__][. | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| _|__|________)< | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | oo OOOO-| oo\\ | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+------------------+ ------------------------------ From: "Rex D. Hutto" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:48:39 -0500 Subject: RE: Mel's last name? Hi, Jeff Same question I've had for years. I seem to recall it being pronounced = "shocker" on the few seconds of the GMA broadcast I caught. Of course, = the band was also called Grand FRUNK Railroad. Perhaps we have a = credibility problem here........ Anybody actually know what they're talking about on this one? Rex - -----Original Message----- From: G. Jeffrey Gower [SMTP:jgower@mtholyoke.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 1997 9:34 AM To: grand funk railroad Subject: Mel's last name? This is a silly question, but I've always wondered just how you = pronounce=20 Mel's last name (Schacher). Just curious. Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Rex D. Hutto" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:52:34 -0500 Subject: Possible newsgroup? Hey, gang! The inbox is starting to get pretty full, and this will only = increase as the Railroad picks up more steam. What are the chances of = establishing a GFR newsgroup in place of (in addition to?) the mailing = list? I'm not familiar with Usenet procedure and protocol, or the = effort involved in establishing and maintaining such a group, but it = would be interesting to see if this is an option that could enable us to = (a) use our time a bit more efficiently, and (b) keep on rockin'! Any takers? Any ideas? Any volunteers? Any input, suggestions, rude = criticism, etc? Rex Hutto Wolfeboro, NH rdh@conknet.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 09:16:03 -0700 Subject: Update from Sunny Sunny Quinn, (Donnie Brewers significate other) has posted an update regarding the show and future plans. http://www.wzzr.com/ - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 12:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: More nonsense about Mark's guitar - haha. here's my thought for friday!!! is central park near the brewery or beacon? i think it might be appropriate to gather there and do our chant "we want grand funk" & "all we are sayingggggggggggg is give peace a chance?" before or after the ritual at the brewery?!?!? well just another .02 let me hear ya say that you're ready!!! g ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:42:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: After NYC Gathering On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Al Henneborn 595-6669 wrote: > Yo GFR Gang, > > Since we're all meeting before the Beacon show at the West Side Brewery 76th > & Amsterdam Ave., where are we going to get together after the show, after we > meet Mark, Don & Mel? Go Back to the West Side Brewery or the Hard Rock > Cafe, which I think is on 57th? Let's all get together after the show, I > mean the event of this decade. Yeah Al, I think we'll have to wing it. I'm keeping it wide open in case we get to meet the boyz in the band...you never know! See ya on the west side! Phil ------------------------------ From: Randy Stowe Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:48:27 -0500 Subject: Another Funky Article Here is an article that appeared in the "Between the Lines" section of last Sunday's Detroit Free Press. The web address for the article is: http://www.rust.net/~workers/entertainment/22line20.htm Later, Randy Can't stop the funk Peter Frampton - who's part of Grand Funk Railroad's Bosnian benefit concert tonight at the Palace - passes on a story from his old band Humble Pie's days opening for GFR during the early '70s. Seems that GFR manager Terry Knight used to dictate a nightly curfew for his charges - including bed checks. "Of course, Humble Pie had no sort of curfew whatsoever," Frampton says. "So they'd sneak out and come over to our rooms and sort of put the pillow under the covers so it looked like they were still sleeping, just in case they were checked on." Frampton will perform "Time Machine" and "The Loco-motion" tonight with Grand Funk. ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: RE: Mel's last name? I just got a tape of one of the '96 shows (milwaukee) and Farner introduces him. I *think* he pronounced it more Shocker than Shacker but it seemed like it was somewhere in between. You know those mid-west accents! Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Rex D. Hutto wrote: > Hi, Jeff > > Same question I've had for years. I seem to recall it being pronounced "shocker" on the few seconds of the GMA broadcast I caught. Of course, the band was also called Grand FRUNK Railroad. Perhaps we have a credibility problem here........ > > Anybody actually know what they're talking about on this one? > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: G. Jeffrey Gower [SMTP:jgower@mtholyoke.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 1997 9:34 AM > To: grand funk railroad > Subject: Mel's last name? > > This is a silly question, but I've always wondered just how you pronounce > Mel's last name (Schacher). Just curious. > > Jeff > > ------------------------------ From: Jacob Lowe Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 11:49:45 CDT Subject: Re: Possible newsgroup? I used to be on a newsgroup for Pink Floyd-aholics like myself, (Echoes is the name) and the way it worked was that each member recieved one letter a day, with everyone's posts at different parts of the letter. It was a lot more efficient (not criticizing the owner or builder of this group) than this method, but I am at a loss to discribe HOW it worked. Jacob ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:01:21 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: More nonsense about Mark's guitar - haha. On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > here's my thought for friday!!! is central park near the brewery or beacon? > i think it might be appropriate to gather there and do our chant "we want > grand funk" & "all we are sayingggggggggggg is give peace a chance?" before > or after the ritual at the brewery?!?!? well just another .02 > let me hear ya say that you're ready!!! Central Park is a few blocks from the Beacon/Westside Brewery. Phil ------------------------------ From: Jacob Lowe Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 12:01:45 CDT Subject: top 10 pronounciations TOP 10 POSSIBLE PRONOUNCIATIONS OF "SHACHER" 10. Shaker 9. Shocker 8. Schaefer 7. Schaefer Light 6. Shaquelle 5. Shatcher 4. Shoafer 3. Shatner (as in William) 2. Snatcher 1. Mr. Limosine Driver ...I think that, um...there are more bad people than there are good, and if you're good, you'll live forever....and if you're bad, you'll die when you die....you'll die when you die....you'll die when you die...etc... Anyone else have any ideas? Jacob ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 11:27:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: top 10 pronounciations On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Jacob Lowe wrote: > TOP 10 POSSIBLE PRONOUNCIATIONS OF "SHACHER" > > 10. Shaker > 9. Shocker > 8. Schaefer > 7. Schaefer Light > 6. Shaquelle > 5. Shatcher > 4. Shoafer > 3. Shatner (as in William) > 2. Snatcher > 1. Mr. Limosine Driver > > ...I think that, um...there are more bad people than there are good, and if > you're good, you'll live forever....and if you're bad, you'll die when you > die....you'll die when you die....you'll die when you die...etc... > > Anyone else have any ideas? > How about "Bumbles". Let's see how many of you get that one! Phil ------------------------------ From: "Michael Catalano" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 11:23:27 EDT Subject: re: top 10 pronounciations We used to pronounce it like your no. 5, Schatcher here on LongIsland. But if it's spelt Schacher it could be pronounced "Mr. Limosine Driver" (remember Monty Python's "Throat Wobbler Mangrove" that was pronounced "Walter Luxury Yacht"? That line killed me when I heard it!) Mick - ------------- Original Text From: Jacob Lowe , on 4/23/97 12:01 PM: TOP 10 POSSIBLE PRONOUNCIATIONS OF "SHACHER" 10. Shaker 9. Shocker 8. Schaefer 7. Schaefer Light 6. Shaquelle 5. Shatcher 4. Shoafer 3. Shatner (as in William) 2. Snatcher 1. Mr. Limosine Driver ...I think that, um...there are more bad people than there are good, and if you're good, you'll live forever....and if you're bad, you'll die when you die....you'll die when you die....you'll die when you die...etc... Anyone else have any ideas? Jacob ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Possible newsgroup? On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Rex D. Hutto wrote: > Hey, gang! The inbox is starting to get pretty full, and this will only increase as the Railroad picks up more steam. What are the chances of establishing a GFR newsgroup in place of (in addition to?) the mailing list? I'm not familiar with Usenet procedure and protocol, or the effort involved in establishing and maintaining such a group, but it would be interesting to see if this is an option that could enable us to (a) use our time a bit more efficiently, and (b) keep on rockin'! > > Any takers? Any ideas? Any volunteers? Any input, suggestions, rude criticism, etc? Hi Rex. I much prefer mailing lists over Usenet newsgroups, because they are much more personal and you have more of a feeling of "knowing" the other members, etc.. And there is usually a moderator to keep things in line and limit spams, etc.. I have two ideas that could be considered to decrease the traffic here. One would be to have everyone ONLY post to the GFR address (grand-funk@roadkill.com) rather than responding to both the list and the other members individually - I get the same messages 2-3 times from people who do this. I don't mind - I am not complaining - but it does nearly double the number of posts for no real reason. Perhaps this could be set up so that the automatic respond address is the list rather than the individual posters? Second, the list could be made available as daily digest format, where members get one mailing per day that includes all the postings of that day. (I run a Terje Rypdal mailing list in this digest fashion - it is a weekly thing, but for this list weekly would not be timely enough for most of us). Of course, my first suggestion would still need to be considered - otherwise, we'd still have to wade through duplicate and triplicate postings within the digests. Anyway, there are some suggestions... Jeff ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Possible newsgroup? Hi all, On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, G. Jeffrey Gower wrote: > ... I much prefer mailing lists over Usenet newsgroups, because they > are much more personal and you have more of a feeling of "knowing" the > other members, etc. ... I prefer mailing lists to newsgroups as well for many of the same reasons. Although I understand the need and the reasoning behind newsgroups and I do monitor a few of them on occasion, I sometimes get the feeling that I'm in a huge auditorium trying to hear five different people talk all at the same time over the background din. I also prefer mailing lists over Web guest- or log-books for a different reason but a reason that I prefer them over newsgroups as well. With newsgroups and guest-books, you have to remember to go participate -- you have to be more pro-active. With a mailing list, things come to you and you can afford to be a lit- tle more reactive. Just my $0.02 -- FWIW. But, I'll have to admit that this mailing list has become *real* popular suddenly. I'm about three days behind in answering messages! > ... I have two ideas that could be considered to > decrease the traffic here. One would be to have everyone ONLY post to > the GFR address (grand-funk@roadkill.com) rather than responding to both > the list and the other members individually ... Remember that when you "R"eply to a message here, the list is configured to send your reply to the originator of the message only -- not the list! If you want your message to go to the list you have to either use a reply-to-"A"ll type of mailer option or edit the headers on the message before you "S"end it -- I do the latter myself. This is my personal preference to list configuration based on years of participating in other mailing lists. It seems that when one has to work a little harder to get a post to the list, one thinks about it in a little more detail and may decide, after all, the post was unnecessary. This seems to keep the on-list flaming down to a minimum and reduce a bit of the traffic. I think I need to modify the welcome message to include something about this. Of course, if there is a discussion on-list about this and the majority of the subscribers would like the list configured a lit- tle differently, I'd be happy to comply with the majority's deci- sion. > ... Second, the list could be made > available as daily digest format, where members get one mailing per day > that includes all the postings of that day ... There is a digest version of the list. I just had my one di- gest subscriber from Russia unsubscribe yesterday. :-( It isn't a "daily" digest but instead sends a block of messages out when an administrator defined maximum size has been reached. Unfortu- nately, I forget what I have set that limit to be at the moment. Let me just say that digest versions of a list are a little more difficult to reply to. There are some folks who reply to a post and include a quote from the original without editing down the quote at all. For a reply to a digest, this would be abso- lutely horrible because the entire digest message with all of its contained individual messages would be quoted in the reply and this person would become very unpopular on the list very quickly. Again, just my $0.02, IMHO, but, YMMV. Take care and, as al- ways, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who noticed that the cost of living hasn't affected its popularity. _ ___ +--------------------------+--------------------------+-- \.\'.\ (Buzz-42) |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | \'\.'\ / | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| __\.\:/_// | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | -{{{{{(__(") | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+- `~~~~ >>>^ -----+ ------------------------------ From: Bill Parrette Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:20:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Regarding Mel's Name.. (fwd) Hi all, I believe this was intended for the list. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: ArtWhims@aol.com To: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Regarding Mel's Name.. Mel's last name is spelled Schacher but pronounced as Shocker, though people will probably always mispronounce it. He and my husband are childhood friends and remain close. ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Unsubscribing/Digest Hi all, I meant to mention this before -- I forgot. If you would like to unsubscribe from the list for any reason at all, it is easiest for you to do it by sending a one-line mes- sage to: majordomo@roadkill.com The text of the message should very simply read: unsubscribe grand-funk That's all there is to it. It is that easy. If you would like to subscribe to the digest version of the list, again it is very easy to do. You simply send a one-line message to: majordomo@roadkill.com The text of the message should very simply read: subscribe grand-funk-digest I would like to suggest that, if you would like to receive the digest version of the list that you subscribe to it first and then unsubscribe from grand-funk. This will minimize the chance that you will miss any messages. If you would like to unsubscribe from the digest version of the list for any reason at all, it is easiest for you to do it by sending a one-line message to: majordomo@roadkill.com The text of the message should very simply read: unsubscribe grand-funk-digest That's all there is to it. It is that easy. Thank you for your attention. Try to grok the fullness of it all. We now take you back to your regularly scheduled list chat. Bill-- ...who believes pro is to con as progress is to Congress. +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------- (42?) --+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | /\_/\ / | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| ( o.o ) | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | > - < | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Bill Parrette Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:37:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: re: Regarding Mels name... (fwd) Hi all, I believe this was intended for the list. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 15:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: ArtWhims@aol.com To: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: re: Regarding Mels name... Just thought I'd set the record straight. This is a mispronunciation that never goes away. This was an AOL controversy last year and my answer never got as far as the internet. I guess that is the price you pay when you are the creative, quiet and calm genius that he is. Contrary to the impressions that have somehow been given, Mel indeed has alot to say and the local Flint Journal articles have shown that recently. If all of you would like to read some of them, I encourage you to email Doug Pullen at the Flint Journal (pullen@tir.com). There is a wealth of information in them and I only wish you all had access. He has enough info on them in news articles alone to have the best page on the web so far. The most recent article before the concert last weekend featured only two pictures, both of Mel and quite a few quotes of his. I was so glad to see it! Time for his light to shine! As for Doug Pullen, he has signed a guest book at http:/www.rpi.net/au/"loki and requests correspondence from GF fans. Perfect opportunity for all of us. I have already taken advantage of his offer and emailed him a thank you for his great coverage of the band. In the mid-Michigan area, GF is always news. Hope I have helped some. Oh, I forgot! THE CONCERT WAS SPECTACULAR!!!! : ) ------------------------------ From: Gasnoilguy@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Possible newsgroup? Jeff, Posting directly to grand-funk @roadkill.com is an excellent idea. There definitely is a lot of mail, so eliminating duplicates might help. I also agree that a usenet group is too impersonal, and also a lot of outside garbage gets posted to boot! Gas & Oil Guy ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 14:58:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Outta Here! Well folks, it's showtime! I'm heading out to NY tomorrow (Thu) morning. I'll see some of you at the Westside Brewery Friday afternoon. I won't be back on my email until next Wed/Thu and then I'm flying back out to go to the LA show! What a week this is gonna be! Anyway, I'll be with Mick through next Tuesday and he'll still be reading his email so if you need to send me any messages you can send it to him and I'll *probably* get the message. Anyway, I'm looking forward to meeting you folks going to the Beacon on Friday and of course the folks going to the Greek next Friday! See ya there! Funkin' Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The final word on Survival (Was: Re: GFR CDs (fwd)) Hi all, Okay, here's the *final* word on the Survival CD. Because I apparently peeved a few people and set a few others "off," I wanted to get the facts to try to set the record straight and cool everybody down. So, I called Capitol Records and spoke with an acquaintance there who I believed could answer the question. And, this was their response. Survival has *not* *officially* been released by Capitol Records. The CDs have been "pressed" and a few of them probably "leaked" out, but there has been *no* *official* release of this title on CD. Those of you who have one of these "leaked" CDs may think that you have something special -- somehow worth more than the ones that are officially released. But the truth of the matter is that when there *is* an official release, there will be no way to differentiate between the "leaked" disc and the official disc -- they will be exactly the same. So, the bottom line is that if you have what appears to be an official Capitol release of Survival, you are not on drugs, you are not crazy, you do not need to go to the "shrink. Just con- sider yourselves lucky that you have happened to come by a trea- sure that very few of us will see for a while and leave it at that. BTW, I also asked about future release dates and my friend had no new or additional information. They are, in fact, working with Punch Enterprises to get the CDs out and when the time is right (which was not defined by my source), they will follow through with additional CDs So, let's put this topic to bed, settle back into the Funk groove, and continue talking about the best band in the land -- *the* American Band -- Grand Funk Railroad. Take care, grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who says that a blow with a word strikes deeper than a blow with a sword. ...and whose tired of being "hit" so hard. ;-) +--------------------------+--------------------------+------------------+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | (42?) | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| ,.,., / | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | ( o o ) | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+--ww--U--ww-------+ ------------------------------ From: ruckerm@agcs.com Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:41:22 -0700 Subject: shirts > On Apr 22, 12:17pm, WHIRLEGREG@aol.com wrote: > > Subject: Re: Hat and t-shirts > > > > and if you like the roadkill version and personally i do very much > > (i had many people comment and want one for themselves) so if you > > want one too then leave word around these parts and you will be > > accomodated!! > > later > > greg > Hi Greg - Just found the list yesterday - what's the "roadkill" version? Did the list put a shirt together? Is there a website with a picture anywhere? I gots ta know! - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Rucker AG Communication Systems email: ruckerm@agcs.com Phoenix, Arizona USA phone: (602) 582-7507 http://www.agcs.com - -------------- Expand the power of your network. --------------- ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #42 *******************************