From: owner-grand-funk To: grand-funk-digest Subject: grand-funk-digest V1 #41 Reply-To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Errors-To: owner-grand-funk Precedence: bulk grand-funk-digest Tuesday, 22 April 1997 Volume 01 : Number 041 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Randy Stowe Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 22:43:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Favourite Tunes Hey Gang, OK, I'll weigh in with my top 10 Grand Funk songs. 1. Paranoid 2. In Need 3. Into the Sun 4. Inside Looking Out 5. Flight of the Phoenix 6. I Come Tumblin' 7. I'm Your Captain 8. Heartbreaker 9. Rock & Roll American Style 10. The Railroad My favorite album would have to be the first live album. Later, Randy ------------------------------ From: LMcdan1313@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 01:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 2nd top ten Here is my second top ten which is equal to the first, it just changes daily, like my underwear: HEARTBREAKER, INTO THE SUN, STUCK IN THE MIDDLE, COMFORT ME, UPS AND DOWNS, SAVE THE LAND, GOIN FOR THE PASTOR, WE GOTTA GET OUTA THIS PLACE, I CAN FEEL HIM IN THE MORNING, BAD TIME. ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bashing??? Why do some of you feel the need to gang up on Jacob? I don't understand something. Why does it seem impossible to some of you that someone in their 20's can't like GFR? Too many people are assuming that us "youngsters" are only turned on by GFR's most popular hits. That's not true. I am 25 years old. I was into GFR ever since I was 4 years old and hearing my dad blast their records throughout the house! I personally prefer their '69 to '73 sound. I feel it had more of an impact on the soul. Don't get me wrong, I do like some songs from '74 and later, but that is not what turned me on to GFR. Besides, did you ever look at it like this? Most young people today that are into rock music have grown up listening to todays sound. For this reason, do you really think that the '74 and later GFR tunes would turn us "youngsters" on? I don't think so. I want hard and heavy!!!! All I'm saying is that some people shouldn't be so quick to judge anothers musical taste. Even if Jacob or myself were into the post '74 tunes, you older Funkheads should be happy that GFR can still have such power and influence over a younger generation. Especially more influence over any group that's out there today! By the way Jacob, sincerely, welcome to the mailing list.... I know it's been one hell of a welcome for you lately! Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: JOHN PETITT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 07:47:03 -0500 Subject: Hat and t-shirts Bill, Could you give a description of what the hat and shirts look like. Thanks, Jay AKA-Jaypfunk@aol.com ------------------------------ From: JOHN PETITT Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 07:53:47 -0500 Subject: Favourite Tunes -Reply My top 10 in no particular order: This is going to be REALLY hard!!! 1 Dues 2 Shinin' On 3 All You've Got is Money 4 Inside Lookin Out 5 Paranoid 6 Sins a Good Man's Brother 7 Black Licorice 8 I Come Tumblin' 9 Stop Lookin' Back 10 Nothing is the Same Jay AKA-Jaypfunk@aol.com ------------------------------ From: EfahsT@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Farner's Detroit performance? So far, I've heard of the great production of the show. I want to know what kind of performance Farner did. In 69, he didn't have (or need) fireworks or other celebs on stage to take the rock festival world by storm. Yes, I'll admit it. I can be as big a critic as I am a fan. I'd like to hear more about the performance of Farner and the others. Please don't exaggerate and please try not to forget anything, but I'm anxious to hear. ------------------------------ From: "Rex D. Hutto" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:30:27 -0500 Subject: RE: Bashing??? Wow! Paul, I think you might have missed the gist of some of the = discussions going on here. Though I have not contributed at all to any = of the "Jacob threads," all I have perceived is a bunch of old farts = giving some good-natured ribbing to a young snot. And the young snot = seems to have read it that way as well, judging by the equally = good-natured and humorous tone of his responses. Care to respond, Jacob? (If you can tear yourself away from the = cadavers, that is.....) - -----Original Message----- From: Bass6plyr@aol.com [SMTP:Bass6plyr@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 1997 3:45 AM To: grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Bashing??? Why do some of you feel the need to gang up on Jacob? I don't understand something. Why does it seem impossible to some of you that someone in = their 20's can't like GFR? Too many people are assuming that us "youngsters" = are only turned on by GFR's most popular hits. That's not true. I am 25 = years old. I was into GFR ever since I was 4 years old and hearing my dad = blast their records throughout the house! I personally prefer their '69 to '73 sound. I feel it had more of an impact on the soul. Don't get me wrong, = I do like some songs from '74 and later, but that is not what turned me on to = GFR. Besides, did you ever look at it like this? Most young people today that = are into rock music have grown up listening to todays sound. For this = reason, do you really think that the '74 and later GFR tunes would turn us = "youngsters" on? I don't think so. I want hard and heavy!!!!=20 All I'm saying is that some people shouldn't be so quick to judge = anothers musical taste. Even if Jacob or myself were into the post '74 tunes, you older Funkheads should be happy that GFR can still have such power and influence over a younger generation. Especially more influence over any = group that's out there today! By the way Jacob, sincerely, welcome to the mailing list.... I know it's = been one hell of a welcome for you lately! Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Brechlin Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 07:57:58 -0500 Subject: Auburn Hills concert! Hi y'all, It's Tuesday morning and I've finally recovered from the trip home to Wisconsin. Finally had a chance to sit down at the computer and check the reviews. It's hard to put a review of this concert in to words but I'll try. I called Bill from my motel room about 1:00 PM sunday to ask about thew location of the tailgate party. After getting instructions on what kind of vehicle to look for I settled back for a couple hours with my wife waiting for 4 o'clock to come around. Since I was staying in Pontiac it was only a 10 minute drive to the Palace. After parking the car. We took a lap around the building looking for the infamous RED pickup I was told to look for. I also was looking for our site's official T-shirt. Lap one was completed with no success. We kicked back had a beer and decided when lap two would be taken around the building. After another beer we headed to the north side of the building. A suspicious group of people were gathered near the north entrance all wearing similar shirts with the Grand Funk logo on the front. I walked behind to see the back of the shirts and low and behold "FUNKENGRUVEN". I walked up to Bill and introduced myself. Bigdog AKA Mike Brechlin. The name should no longer escape you, Bill. I commented on the whereabouts of the RED pickup because only a WHITE one was parked in the vicinity. Bill said the red one was parked across the street at the bar. I was intorduced to STAATS, Mike Butler, Crash Test Chris and several others. I introduced myself and my wife to the boys also. We talked Funk and determined that if the band didn't show we could fill in. Since we had drums, bass, guitar and keyboard players right there in our group. As Mike Butler said in his post, one of the highlights of attending the tailgate was the new ability to put faces to the postings on the site. Remember I'm the one with the beard. After some more discussion T-shirts on we headed into the arena. First off, I'm sorry to hear about the dickheads that tried to rip off Bill's T-shirts. There are always a few assholes in every large group of people. As far as the shirt prices were concerned, 22 to 27 dollars is the going rate for concert T's at the venue. I didn't think it was too ungodly. The concert itself was in my opinion was the finest performance I have ever seen. The production was exceptional and the band was tighter than they were in 1975. My wife said that Shinin On was better in '75 to which I of course had to disagree. The orchestra arraingments were excellent and Frampton and Alto were great. Yes I can verify that people were singing along, I'm still a little hoarse. The pyrotechnics just enhanced the experience. The video screens were a necessity for people in the rear floor seating and the resolution was excellent. The camera men definitely knew what they were doing. The sound was exceptional. The next morning on the way out of town WCSX radio had several comments about the show. The estimated attendance was approx. 15,000 or a sellout by their appraisal. The following comment was probably said in jest but I did not take it too kindly. Quote: "In the seventies they looked like a group of anorexics on drugs. Twenty years later they kook better than they did then. Don isn't skinny anymore". Now really when did Mark Farner ever look anorexic??? I look forward to meeting you all again, maybe a jam session?? Take care and enjoy, Bigdog aka Mike Brechlin ------------------------------ From: Mike Brechlin Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:07:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Farner's Detroit performance? EfahsT@aol.com wrote: > > So far, I've heard of the great production of the show. I want to know > what kind of performance Farner did. In 69, he didn't have (or need) > fireworks or other celebs on stage to take the rock festival world by storm. > Yes, I'll admit it. I can be as big a critic as I am a fan. I'd like to > hear more about the performance of Farner and the others. Please don't > exaggerate and please try not to forget anything, but I'm anxious to hear. The pyrotechnics during the show wre in place to enhance a particular moment, like a celebration of Wer're an American Band on the fourth of July. They did not serve as a distraction. Mark has become a much better guitar player over the years and his performance was clear and concise, the direct result of constant rehearsal. The rest of the performers were equally well rehearsed. The guests were part of the band just like guests were in 1975 when Wet Willie performed with the guys during the LOCOMOTION. Mike Brechlin ------------------------------ From: steelhorse Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:17:56 -0700 Subject: Re: Bashing??? - NOT Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > > Why do some of you feel the need to gang up on Jacob? I don't understand > something. Why does it seem impossible to some of you that someone in their > 20's can't like GFR? From man's first beginnings, stories and legends have been passed down from generation to generation. For us 'old' 40-ish Funkheads to share our past, right now, with you 20-ish Funkheads is a joy and a pleasure. I, for one, find it astonishing that GFR was in their prime before most of you were even THOUGHT of. I have an 18 year old daughter, two sons 25 and 27: I am surprised when they admit they like ANYTHING that I like, especially real rock and roll like GFR. Saying they like something their parents do, well hell, I was 20 once, I know where you're coming from. I admire you 20-ish folks for standing up for your beliefs. That's what us 40-ish Funkers did in our past. That's what GFR did in their first coming. You have misunderstood 'gang up' for innocent kidding. You are our future: how could we gang up on that? ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 09:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Bashing??? - NOT On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, steelhorse wrote: > I have an 18 year old daughter, two sons 25 > and 27: I am surprised when they admit they like ANYTHING that I like, > especially real rock and roll like GFR. Saying they like something > their parents do, well hell, I was 20 once, I know where you're coming > from. I remember coming home with three newly bought LPs one day in 1972 - Closer to Home, Black Sabbath's first, and Alice Cooper's Killer. I remember my dad saying "you really like this stuff?" Haha. But I loved (and still love very much) some of what they listened to then, mainly folkies like Dylan and PP&M. Isn't that weird? I love GFR, Cooper, The Who, and all that hard stuff, plus folkies like Dylan and Donovan and Drake (the 3 D's), plus Terje Rypdal and similar European jazz, plus lush classical like Delius, etc.. My little girl must really be confused! She'll probably end up listening to the ONE type of "music" I can't tolerate - rap/hiphop! Oh no!!!!!!! But seriously, I don't know if the generation gap between what our parents liked and what we liked will be as great for our children, eh? I mean, we all grew up with R&R, whereas our parents (those of us in our late 30s and 40s, at least) did not. But I am sure our kids will try to render us "old fuddy-duddies" who are so "uncool", no matter what. That has GOT to be the prime impetus behind the rap movement, eh? ;-) Jeff I admire you 20-ish folks for standing up for your beliefs. > That's what us 40-ish Funkers did in our past. That's what GFR did in > their first coming. You have misunderstood 'gang up' for innocent > kidding. You are our future: how could we gang up on that? > ------------------------------ From: steelhorse Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 09:00:33 -0700 Subject: GFR a day keeps the doctor away At this point in my life, I work out on a daily basis (you 40-ish Funkers know what THAT is), take herbs, vitamins, avoid fast foods, yah know, all that stuff we laughed about when our parents said that it was good for us. At one point, a friend of mine said he does it so he can keep his body in shape for beer drinking... anyway... I do at least 30 minutes a day on a treadmill with with one of those heartbeat monitor deallies (bear with me on this for a second). I also use a stereo Walkman/cassette player. I dub my CDs over to cassette. I'll give you 3 guesses as to what I record, and the first 2 don't count :-). I've noticed my heartbeat increases if I listen to GFR while I work out. 110-125, to 130-140 bpm. I can repeat this at will. I've studied Chinese medicine, Yoga, Tai Chi, and others. I've read about it, but didn't believe it was really possible to change my heart rate with my mind. Any of you other Funksters experienced this? I've had goosebumps listening to GFR, but not this! Wow. Body, mind, and spirit: Mark, Don, & Mel. Kinda matches together in a way, don'tcha think? ------------------------------ From: Bill Parrette Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 09:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Hello & Favorite songs (fwd) Hi all, I believe this was intended for the list. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 13:52:44 -0400 From: Sam LeMaster To: owner-grand-funk@roadkill.com Subject: Hello & Favorite songs This is my first time writing anything here. I have been reading all the email everday. A BIG hello to all my GFR Brothers & Sisters. I have been a fan since 1970. I own every album they ever put out. Also I have all the solo stuff by Mark. And I even have a copy of Flint. I use to play Paranoid off of the Live Album every morning before I went to school. And that brings me to my top ten favorites. 1. Paranoid off of the Live album 2. Mean Mistreater off of the Live album 3. Hey Mr. Limousine Driver 4. Closer to Home 5. Inside Looking Out 6. TNUC 7. Heartbreaker 8. We're An American Band 9. The Railroad 10. Queen Bee And as some of the others have said it could change any minute. Except for the first 3. I also think that Mark sings When a Man Loves a Woman better than Percy or Bolton. For those of you that don't know what lp that is off of, it is on No Thrills by The Mark Farner band. And his lead work in that song is remarkable. I love ever album they put out. and about all this talk about Loco and SKOW. I think we should just be glad they are back together and doing it again. I am really looking forward to something new from the guys and I cant wait for the video. I think it is great to have this forum to talk about the people's band. I think it was STAATS that wrote the first review of the show. Thanks man! For those of us that could not attend I really apprecitate the report. Lets hope the band stays on track and dont derail. Let this be the year of the Funk. A loyal fan since 1970 Sam p.s. I also learned how to play Guitar from listening to Mark. ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 10:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Auburn Hills concert! On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Mike Brechlin wrote: > The concert itself was in my opinion was the finest performance I have > ever seen. Thanks Mike and others for the reviews. I must say that I am amazed at how well-produced and how grand these shows are (orchestra, etc.)! Since I can't make one of them, I truly look forward to seeing a video of them, should they become available. > The estimated attendance was approx. 15,000 or a sellout by their > appraisal. Wow - again, I am happily amazed... > The following comment was probably said in jest but > I did not take it too kindly. Quote: "In the seventies they looked like > a group of anorexics on drugs. Twenty years later they kook better than > they did then. Don isn't skinny anymore". > Now really when did Mark Farner ever look anorexic??? Those "classic rock" jockeys don't always know about R&R like they should. This guy was probably referring to the photo in the WAAB album, which is likely the only album he has ever seen. Haha. I remember thinking when that album came out, "eat something, guys!". Of course, Mark was always the short muscular one (I was shocked when I met him backstage once and he was my height), but Don, Mel and Craig were pretty skinny. Jeff ------------------------------ From: "G. Jeffrey Gower" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 10:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Farner's Detroit performance? On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Mike Brechlin wrote: > Mark has become a much better guitar player over the years I'm sure he has. You can hear his technique improving gradually over the course of the albums, even. Compare his playing on CITA with LA, for example. I saw it as good in some ways, in that his playing was tighter and more concise, but I kinda missed the rough sound of his previous less-virtuosic style as well. I know it sounds silly, but there it is. The whole playing level, technically, of guitarists rose considerably during the 70s and 80s. Back in the early 70s, there were no well-known techno-masters like Eric Johnsons, EVHalens, SteveVais, and such (there were a few maestros like John McLaughlin, etc., but they typically resided in the jazz or fusion genres, not R&R). Listening to the rock guitarists of the time, from today's standpoint, they seem rough and choppy and sometimes downright amateurish, but that was a big part of the charm of R&R then, I think. When things started getting more polished - the playing, the production, etc. - then alot of the magic was lost. That is not to say that ALOT of good music was not being done, because it surely was. But there is a reason why when Rolling Stone magazine came out with its 100 greatest rock and roll albums of all time in 1987, a majority of them were from the late 60s and early 70s. Now, I don't usually agree with that waste of paper Rolling Stone, and I didn't agree with many of their choices, but most of the albums they listed were indisputable masterpieces. And I think that the freshness and rawness and passion of that period was a prime factor. Maybe it is just my age talking, but for rock guitar, give me the sound of Mark's raw early guitar over the phaseshifted, flanged, chorused sound of later rockers. Hey, that is a good question - how DID Mark's guitar sound for those early tunes? Did it have that crunchy raw sound or was it more smooth and effects-laden, etc.? Jeff ------------------------------ From: Jacob Lowe Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 09:24:50 CDT Subject: Re: Bashing??? At 04:45 AM 4/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >Why do some of you feel the need to gang up on Jacob? I don't understand >something. Why does it seem impossible to some of you that someone in their >20's can't like GFR? Too many people are assuming that us "youngsters" are >only turned on by GFR's most popular hits. That's not true. I am 25 years >old. I was into GFR ever since I was 4 years old and hearing my dad blast >their records throughout the house! I personally prefer their '69 to '73 >sound. I feel it had more of an impact on the soul. Don't get me wrong, I do >like some songs from '74 and later, but that is not what turned me on to GFR. >Besides, did you ever look at it like this? Most young people today that are >into rock music have grown up listening to todays sound. For this reason, do >you really think that the '74 and later GFR tunes would turn us "youngsters" >on? I don't think so. I want hard and heavy!!!! >All I'm saying is that some people shouldn't be so quick to judge anothers >musical taste. Even if Jacob or myself were into the post '74 tunes, you >older Funkheads should be happy that GFR can still have such power and >influence over a younger generation. Especially more influence over any group >that's out there today! > >By the way Jacob, sincerely, welcome to the mailing list.... I know it's been >one hell of a welcome for you lately! > >Paul >Bass6plyr@aol.com > >thanks Paul...everyone else here thinks you have to be old enough to remember Vietman to appreciate good music, and of course that's total bullsh*t. These people think they have some sort of monopoly on the pre-disco era, and I have some rather startling news for them...they don't. Alas, I don't pay much attention to them, though, for other things occupy my time, like learning how to save these old farts when they kill over from heart attacks. Maybe they should remember that when they make those ridiculous comments. Jacob (not about to give up my music because a few paranoid MacAurthians feel threatened) ------------------------------ From: Ken Blackley Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 08:06:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Bashing??? Jacob Lowe wrote: >> > (snip)Alas, I don't pay much attention to them, though, for other things occupy my > time, like learning how to save these old farts when they kill over from > heart attacks. Maybe they should remember that when they make those > ridiculous comments. > >Hi Jacob! Hell, you can be any age annd like good music. My ten-year-old son loves Queen and he wouldn't know the difference between the Vietnam War and disco! So welcome aboard and don't worry about old guys (who are probably younger thann me) blowing off steam! Good for you that you've got good taste, be you ten or fifty. . . See ya! - ----Ken ------------------------------ From: steelhorse Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:06:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Bashing??? Jacob Lowe wrote : > >thanks Paul...everyone else here thinks you have to be old enough to > remember Vietman to appreciate good music, and of course that's total > bullsh*t. These people think they have some sort of monopoly on the > pre-disco era, and I have some rather startling news for them...they don't. > Alas, I don't pay much attention to them, though, for other things occupy my > time, like learning how to save these old farts when they kill over from > heart attacks. Maybe they should remember that when they make those > ridiculous comments. > > Jacob (not about to give up my music because a few paranoid MacAurthians > feel threatened) I thought maybe you were different because you joined this forum regarding GFR. We are here to discuss and enjoy GFR and grok in fullness. I hear your crap out of my teenager's mouth everyday, and I'm numb to it. By saying 'these people', you've shotgunned your response and hit a lot of innocent people. I shoot back. I ignored Vietnam. I don't have a MONOPOLY or own any point in time. If you are indeed learning medicine, take it from one who knows and has started a practice from scratch: you won't have a chance to save anybody with an attitude like that. No lies. ------------------------------ From: Jacob Lowe Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 11:05:57 CDT Subject: bashing??? Now what fun would a news group be without a little harrassment, whether it be by those lucky enough to see Grand Funk in the 70's (or anytime, for that matter) or by me, who's closest contact to Grand Funk was when Mark Farner did his solo stuff in my home town of Denison, TX at Calhoun's in the early 80's? I hope that no one took my response seriously, the same I did not take their's seriously. It's all fun and games, anyway. Grand Funk fans are definately a breed of their own, for they (or we, I should say) recognize the band for what they were and still are....WAY AHEAD OF THEIR TIME!!!!! Jacob ------------------------------ From: WHIRLEGREG@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Hat and t-shirts wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll i'd be happy to! first and foremost IMHO the finest shirt going is the one brought to us all the way from vegas by our fellow funkhead mike butler!!! it is affordable and readily identifiable!!!!! but the ones offered at the concession stands are 3 and 1 hat!! the hats are black with red GRAND FUNK on the front and ohhhhhhhhh i think american band on the back!! the shirts are 1 of epluribus front another with closer to home front and the third with an old pic of a young trio on the front with GRAND FUNK RAILROAD in the flag colors and the rear showing the promo pic from last summer and sold out over detroit, nyc and la!! all are $25.00 so plan on dropping some cash or plastic!! and if you like the roadkill version and personally i do very much (i had many people comment and want one for themselves) so if you want one too then leave word around these parts and you will be accomodated!! later greg ------------------------------ From: Jacob Lowe Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 11:14:21 CDT Subject: Re: GFR a day keeps the doctor away >I've noticed my heartbeat increases if I listen to GFR while I work out. >110-125, to 130-140 bpm. I can repeat this at will. > There's a reason for that, you know...studies have shown (Lowe, et. al.)that when you play GFR's live album at full blast, your body produces adrenaline at rates 10 times greater than when jumping out of an airplane. I'm personlly doing experiments measuring social behavior of lab rats when exposed to different types of music...One group listens to GFR, and the other listens to the Starlit Vocal Band. You'd probably expect the results... Jacob ------------------------------ From: "William A. Parrette" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: bashing??? Hi all, Just a quick note from your friendly list-owner. This "bashing" thread and those related to it are getting dan- gerously close to breaking one of the fundamental rules of the list. Review your welcome message please, let's *all* calm down a bit, and let's return to the Funk chat. Thanks. Keep Shinin' On, and always grok in fullness ... Bill-- ...who has heard death defined as "to stop sinning suddenly." +--------------------------+--------------------------+------------------+ |William A. (Bill) Parrette|7177 Heritage Drive | (42?) | |wap@one.net |Westchester, OH 45069-4012| \ ||||| | | *** http://w3.one.net/~wap/ *** | ( o o ) | +------------------- 513-779-0780 --------------------+----ooO--(_)--Ooo-+ ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: I think we can stop now. I think these posts about the "bashing Jacob" thing is getting out of hand. We all need to remember that these posts are to talk about GFR. The reason I sent the first letter was because I just felt that we should welcome new people to the list no matter what GFR songs they may like, and not just assume that only young people were hooked in by them with songs like "Locomotion". Bottom line is, we all joined the mailing list because we love GFR!!! Lets continue to focus all attention on who is the best power trio in the world... GRAND FUNK RAILROAD!!!!! By the way, can someone please post the set list from the Detroit show if possible? Thanks, Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 10:37:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Bashing??? On Tue, 22 Apr 1997 Bass6plyr@aol.com wrote: > Why do some of you feel the need to gang up on Jacob? I don't understand > something. Why does it seem impossible to some of you that someone in their > 20's can't like GFR? Too many people are assuming that us "youngsters" are > only turned on by GFR's most popular hits. That's not true. I am 25 years > old. I was into GFR ever since I was 4 years old and hearing my dad blast > their records throughout the house! I personally prefer their '69 to '73 > sound. I feel it had more of an impact on the soul. Don't get me wrong, I do > like some songs from '74 and later, but that is not what turned me on to GFR. > Besides, did you ever look at it like this? Most young people today that are > into rock music have grown up listening to todays sound. For this reason, do > you really think that the '74 and later GFR tunes would turn us "youngsters" > on? I don't think so. I want hard and heavy!!!! > All I'm saying is that some people shouldn't be so quick to judge anothers > musical taste. Even if Jacob or myself were into the post '74 tunes, you > older Funkheads should be happy that GFR can still have such power and > influence over a younger generation. Especially more influence over any group > that's out there today! > > By the way Jacob, sincerely, welcome to the mailing list.... I know it's been > one hell of a welcome for you lately! Yo Paul...anything I said (and I'm sure the rest of us too) was just meant to be taken as a joke! Please don't take it any other way! Yes it is great that you youngsters can get into GFR! Phil ------------------------------ From: Bass6plyr@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Set list For anyone who may be attending the NY and LA shows, can you please post the set list from both? I am curious to see if they will be consistent. ROCK ON GFR!!!!!!!! Thanks Paul Bass6plyr@aol.com P.S. Remember, we are skating on thin ice with too many posts about the "bashing" thing. If we don't stop what we all see is wrong, I guarantee you this mailing list wont live long! :-) ------------------------------ From: kooyers Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 16:44:49 +0200 Subject: Unsubscribe I have to be off line for a while because I will be out of the country ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:26:04 -0400 Subject: Newspaper articles Has anyone seen any write-ups on the Detroit show? It would be really interesting to see how the press reacted. Interesting, but not critical. I'm remembering how the "critics" never seemed to appreciate the band in the past. Fortunately, only the fans' opinions really count. . . Peace, Stan Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: steelhorse Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:27:29 -0700 Subject: Re: bashing??? Jacob Lowe wrote: > I hope that no one took my response seriously, the same I did not > take their's seriously. It's all fun and games, anyway. > Grand Funk fans are definately a breed of their own, for they (or > we, I should say) recognize the band for what they were and still are....WAY > AHEAD OF THEIR TIME!!!!! > > Jacob Indeed! What would a true Funker be if they didn't stand up for what they believe in? Onward. ------------------------------ From: "Michael Catalano" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 11:24:37 EDT Subject: Re: GFR a day keeps the doctor away Do the rats get down on their knees and do "Farner air guitar"? That's what I do... Mick - ------------- Original Text From: Jacob Lowe , on 4/22/97 11:14 AM: >I've noticed my heartbeat increases if I listen to GFR while I work out. >110-125, to 130-140 bpm. I can repeat this at will. > There's a reason for that, you know...studies have shown (Lowe, et. al.)that when you play GFR's live album at full blast, your body produces adrenaline at rates 10 times greater than when jumping out of an airplane. I'm personlly doing experiments measuring social behavior of lab rats when exposed to different types of music...One group listens to GFR, and the other listens to the Starlit Vocal Band. You'd probably expect the results... Jacob ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 11:55:19 -0700 Subject: Funkengruven T's One batch (48) of the shirts has the 'finger' logo on the front pointing sideways. You don't notice it at first unless you're really looking (I didn't at first). But, I'm stuck with them. I'll try to get a scan up on my page so you guys can see them. They might be OK for walking around town, but I'm not giving them out unless you want them ($5 for these). Otherwise, I'm out - and will have to get some more printed up for you guys that emailed me (which I fully intend to do). I've given first priority to the guys going to the Det and NY shows. Mick Catalano will have the tees for you NY guys (he has a few extra). They sure came in handy for indentifying people from the list. - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:15:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Bashing??? With all due respect, relax and enjoy the ride. Jim ------------------------------ From: jmaijala@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:27:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Hat and t-shirts Yo, I would like to buy a number of the Funkengruven Shirts. Where, when, and how much?? Jim ------------------------------ From: STAATS Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:35:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Newspaper articles Stan Pace wrote: > > Has anyone seen any write-ups on the Detroit show? It would be really > interesting to see how the press reacted. Interesting, but not critical. > I'm remembering how the "critics" never seemed to appreciate the band in the > past. Fortunately, only the fans' opinions really count. . . > > Peace, > > Stan > Stan Pace > U.S. Atlantic Command > Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center Yea Stan and the Funk Fans I picked up the paper Monday Morning while I was at the airport. Found one article which was positive and gave the show 3 out of 4 stars! I would have gave it 10 out of 4 stars. I wanted to post the whole artical but I left it with my GFR buddy - he is making me a copy and will mail it to me. Once I get it I will put it up. DAVID ------------------------------ From: "Michael Catalano" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 13:41:59 EDT Subject: Re: Favourite Tunes Well, I thought about the "Top Ten" thing. Here's what I came up with for today... 1. Are You Ready 2. Paranoid 3. In Need 4. Heartbreaker 5. Inside Lookin' Out 6. Mean Mistreater 7. Mark Says Alright 8. T.N.U.C. 9. Into the Sun 10. Are you Ready Mick ps -- I've got LIVE crankin' in the lab (at work) at a subtle 85 dB. I'm too psyched for Friday.....Aaaaaallllriiiiiiight........ - ------------- Original Text From: steelhorse , on 4/21/97 5:06 PM: Michael Catalano wrote: > > Top ten tunes?!? I couldn't name my top ten favorite ALBUMS!!! > > All their albums are my favorites and all for different reasons. If I had > to pick one song that epitomized THE GFR sound, feel and audience reponse, > it would have to be Paranoid off the LIVE album. > > Mick > ------------- Absolutely. ------------------------------ From: Stan Pace Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 16:01:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Newspaper articles David, I just knew that someone would come through on this! I'll be patient. Thanks, Stan At 15:35 4/22/97 -0400, you wrote: >Stan Pace wrote: >> >> Has anyone seen any write-ups on the Detroit show? It would be really >> interesting to see how the press reacted. Interesting, but not critical. >> I'm remembering how the "critics" never seemed to appreciate the band in the >> past. Fortunately, only the fans' opinions really count. . . >> >> Peace, >> >> Stan >> Stan Pace >> U.S. Atlantic Command >> Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center > Yea > >Stan and the Funk Fans > >I picked up the paper Monday Morning while I was at the airport. Found >one article which was positive and gave the show 3 out of 4 stars! I >would have gave it 10 out of 4 stars. I wanted to post the whole artical >but I left it with my GFR buddy - he is making me a copy and will mail >it to me. Once I get it I will put it up. > >DAVID > > Stan Pace U.S. Atlantic Command Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center ------------------------------ From: ruckerm@agcs.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:07:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Newspaper articles On Apr 22, 1:26pm, Stan Pace wrote: > Subject: Newspaper articles > > Has anyone seen any write-ups on the Detroit show? > >-- End of excerpt from Stan Pace Found this Detroit Free Press article: http://www.freep.com/fun/music/qfunk21.htm - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Rucker AG Communication Systems email: ruckerm@agcs.com Phoenix, Arizona USA phone: (602) 582-7507 http://www.agcs.com - -------------- Expand the power of your network. --------------- ------------------------------ From: "NH Borger" Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 22:17:44 +0200 Subject: Which guitar(s) did Mark play on? Did Mark Farner play on his Parker Fly at the Auburn Hills concert? Did Mark also play on any other guitars? Nico. ------------------------------ From: STAATS Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 17:25:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Which guitar(s) did Mark play on? NH Borger wrote: > > Did Mark Farner play on his Parker Fly at the Auburn Hills concert? > Did Mark also play on any other guitars? > > Nico. Nico He played that new red one. I think it was the parker fly - the 4lb one. he used no other guitars. Did do Mean Mistreater with the Grand Piano which was really neat. DAVID ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:44:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Set list > > P.S. Remember, we are skating on thin ice with too many posts about the > "bashing" thing. If we don't stop what we all see is wrong, I guarantee you > this mailing list wont live long! :-) Hey, good one! I was just listening to Lonelines (actually all of E Pluribus) on my way back from lunch. There's a land, a glorious land.... Phil 3 days and definitely counting!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Phil Catalano Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 16:02:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: How was Brewer? How was Brewer? Was he wild as ever or did he tame down a bit. Was he always screaming like he used to do.? I Hope So! How was his voice? It seems like it's not as deep as it used to be. Did he play the usual TNUC solo and was it a long one? Sorry for all the questions but I'm a major Don Brewer fan! And it seems like Farner's been getting all the attention. And how about Mel's bass? Anything like LIVE? Thanks, Phil - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= Phil Catalano phil.catalano@mci.com - --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--= ------------------------------ From: Mike Butler <1kfunkrr@vegasnet.net> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:48:01 -0700 Subject: Re: How was Brewer? Phil Catalano wrote: How was Brewer? Was he wild as ever or did he tame down a bit. Was he always screaming like he used to do.? I Hope So! How was his voice? It seems like it's not as deep as it used to be. Did he play the usual TNUC solo and was it a long one? Sorry for all the questions but I'm a major Don Brewer fan! And it seems like Farner's been getting all the attention. And how about Mel's bass? Anything like LIVE? Thanks, Phil Yea Donnie was a little tamer, less screaming and stuff, man can he play the drums. The TNUC solo was shortened a bit. I do remember him twice throwing his drum stick about 50 feet in air and catching them during TNUC. His voice was really strong. I have several Mark Farner concerts (on tape) with other people singing Don's part - but they never sounded as good as the real Donnie Brewer. He came from behind his drums and pounded his drum sticks together while singing the beginning of 'Some Kind of Wonderful' for the first chorus, before going back behind his drums. I noticed he had headphones on for most of the second part. He started each song with the drum stick countdown, he even stopped the countdown just as they started into Loneliness, the Orchestra had just started. Mark piped in "we just wanted to make sure you were still with us" or something like that and he started again. Everybody was chuckling. Bill and I talked after the show about the bass being a little distorted in spots. Either that or our ears were distorted, I'm not sure which. He plays such a powerful bass. It just rumbled your. . . well you *guys* know what I mean. STAATS is a bass player, he might be able to add to that and Bill must know every lick of TNUC he was talking about technical drum stuff with some guy that I didn't have a clue about. One last thing and I'll stop babbling - back to the crowd singing along. During 'Inside Looking Out' David Staats commented on how everybody knew the words - except Mark ;-) - - I still haven't figured out what he substituted for some of the old lyrics. - -=Mike=- ------------------------------ End of grand-funk-digest V1 #41 *******************************